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what would be involved in changing the engine in a 92 tr from the 4 cyl to the v6 and could i use the same box?
also are their any engines out therethat will slot in, as i got to replace the damn thing i may as well go sumthing with abit more guts althoughi have to keep it automatic wiether i use this box or another
Mrmacomouto
04-04-2009, 09:29 AM
May as well just buy another car in V6, I am pretty sure it will be cheaper.
Also if your going to do it you may as well go strait to a DOHC 3L
cuppas
04-04-2009, 09:40 AM
why keep it automatic?
MadMax
04-04-2009, 12:09 PM
I've got one of each - a 2.6 manual and a 3.0 auto TS and honestly the two engines aren't that much different in power output or driveability. The 2.6 has low down torque which is good around town, but the 3.0 revs harder. The effort to replace a 2.6 with a 3.0 isn't worth it. Better off rebuilding your 2.6 if it is stuffed or converting to manual. Looking for a manual V6 is another option.
Anyway, where would you source a good 3.0L from? Most of them are getting old and tired. Same for the auto box, which is a different model number from 2.6 to 3.0, so you need both engine and matching gearbox in good condition. ECU would need to be swapped, as well as carrying over the bigger brakes and wheels from the V6 model.
why keep it automatic?
license restriction on medical grounds
oh well gues si may as well just get the 2.6 ripped out and rebuilt, just thought it might be worthwhile stepping up abit if the engine had to come out anyways but mh im not fussed as lol as it starts running smooth and gets the car rego again
ty alll
MadMax
05-04-2009, 07:43 AM
Yep - find a local mechanic who is prepared to take on the job. A company like Repco should be able to supply a reconditioned engine, if you want to get the job done quickly. Don't get a second hand engine as the 2.6 is getting old and you would just be replacing a tired engine with another. Good luck
cuzman
05-04-2009, 12:02 PM
Yep - find a local mechanic who is prepared to take on the job. A company like Repco should be able to supply a reconditioned engine, if you want to get the job done quickly. Don't get a second hand engine as the 2.6 is getting old and you would just be replacing a tired engine with another. Good luck
Very good advice
Just to add my local mechanic has a few suppliers of reconditioned engines and over time has sourced the good from the bad as he offers warranty on work as well as the engines. He will only fit good ones so it doesn't come back on him
Like all things reco motors come good, bad and just ugly sometimes.
Just for the record J.L.Automatics Emerald Vic do all automotive work. Top Blokes
If your handy and have a good mech he might even let you help with the easy stuff to save cash like disconnecting all the fiddly stuff before the motors pulled or dropped in the magna's case.
Madmagna
05-04-2009, 12:18 PM
For starters a 4cyl to V6 conversion is actually quite easy, just need to know what to do. THere have been many theads on this in the past.
As for off the shelf reco's, most are crap as the re conditioners do nto care what goes into the engines to begin with and when I used to fit these the Repco, HM and RPM were all as bad as each other. I would not touch any of them
Pity you are not down here, I could do this for you and do a proper job at that.
For starters a 4cyl to V6 conversion is actually quite easy, just need to know what to do. THere have been many theads on this in the past.
As for off the shelf reco's, most are crap as the re conditioners do nto care what goes into the engines to begin with and when I used to fit these the Repco, HM and RPM were all as bad as each other. I would not touch any of them
Pity you are not down here, I could do this for you and do a proper job at that.
what was that mad, u want me to drive my car down to you for a couple weeks and fly back :D hahahaha
as for the rebuild i was actually thinking about having my current erngine rebuilt, just take some time to buy some decent parts then drive to the place with a car load of quality parts, and pray they dont screw me over lol
Madmagna
05-04-2009, 05:56 PM
You are far better off getting the place who does the engine to get the parts
What bearings do you need, std or undersize
What pistons do you need? What extent do you need to bore to etc etc
These are the problems you will face
Also if a part fails, the bulder will shrug his shoulders as he does not know where the parts came from and has no responsibility to replace or repair the damage. Again if he gets them, he will then follow up with suppliers to get done
true , would be better just telling him me heap dollar you good parts :P
MadMax
05-04-2009, 08:17 PM
So Reco engines are no good, despite warranty? mmmm (Makes mental note to not buy one)
cuppas
05-04-2009, 10:11 PM
strengthen it and turbo it!
Madmagna
06-04-2009, 11:19 AM
So Reco engines are no good, despite warranty? mmmm (Makes mental note to not buy one)
When I used to work in a workshop in southern tas, they used to get HM and Repco
The warrenty is no good for the customer when the car is back 2 months later and getting a new car as they can not drive it and usually has to be towed. Also saw a lot of these where 18 months later the new motor was burning as much oil as the old one as the parts were cheap rubbish
Also not much good for the mechanic as they do not generally get paid for the refit
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