View Full Version : Suitable Turbo's
Wooduck
20-04-2004, 05:25 PM
Hey,
Just wondering if anyone knows what turbos other than GT25/28's can be fitted to magna's.
:think: :think: :think:
Engine: 3.5L V6
Model: TH
Thanks.
BOosted' BOoya
20-04-2004, 05:33 PM
heheh.. where would you start...
a GT40R @ 700hp :D
The Sandman
20-04-2004, 05:41 PM
Aren't they a 'lil small as a single for 3.5L? U'd need 2 or more like a T4 to flow that much exhaust? :redface:
DeMonio
20-04-2004, 05:41 PM
The bigger the turbo the more turbo lag you will get wont you??
with the GT25/GT28 they should spool up quickly as where ya GT40R will take longer but come on harder. am I correct??
BOosted' BOoya
20-04-2004, 05:57 PM
The bigger the turbo the more turbo lag you will get wont you??
with the GT25/GT28 they should spool up quickly as where ya GT40R will take longer but come on harder. am I correct??
as far as i understand,
the "R" in the GT40R apposed to the "GT40" turbo is that the "R" version is rolling ball bearing, meaning, you wont have to "spool" it much..
with my setup, id expect the boost to start flowing from as low as 1500 rpm! :shock:
ball bearing is good :dancin:
Wooduck
20-04-2004, 06:13 PM
T4 turbo's. Would they suit ??
:think:
TheSecret
20-04-2004, 06:15 PM
1500rpm :shock:
thats kool...but when will u get the BIG hit?
BOosted' BOoya
20-04-2004, 06:19 PM
1500rpm
thats kool...but when will u get the BIG hit?
well, we expect to have peak power by 5000, and be able to sustain that power till around 7000, so... mmmmmmm..
perhaps 450hp@wheels by 4000, and 550hp by 5000 :badgrin:
oh baby!!! :dancin:
cant wait. the next time i drive the girl, it will be speaking to me!! "PSSSSST" baby!! bout time my dream came true :dancin: always wanted the "PSSSSST" sound from the magna!!! oh, and susan loves that sound too!! :roll:
stuff it!! she aint getting in the drivers seat again :badgrin:
TheSecret
20-04-2004, 06:25 PM
sik...thatl b FAT!
oh...your book is being sent up on friday! ;)
mercury
20-04-2004, 07:45 PM
actually there is a lot of difference in GT,T & R
as Mr booya said R is for roller bearing, it's also meant to be for higher hp figure!
while a t28 might look as small as a GT28, however the compressor wheel and exhaust wheels are very different! it will boost faster and cost a fair bit more! most nissans come with t28, some highflow it, but wont be able to reach full boost as a gt28 as quickly which are also able to boost more.
all XR6T come with a GT40 Turbo, good for over 400 KW.
actually if you had a look at a GT51R it would a tad smaller than a T78, but will spool at around 3500 - 5000 RPM on a 2L engine, whereas if it was put on a rotary, full boost will be closer to 3000 RPM. its also all about setup!
T78 & T88 are very good for cars that have a higher top end, as they are still able to boost, whereas smaller items reach full boost to compensate the lack of top end power!
i have seen a few cars which produce close to 350RKW at only 180km/h and after that flat curve!!!!
have fun Mr booya with the turbo! :D
BOosted' BOoya
21-04-2004, 05:31 AM
here you go buddy, did a bit of research for ya..
Garrett GT Small-Frame Performance Turbochargers
This series of GT turbochargers are engineered for small displacement engines between 45 hp and 225 hp with wide speed ranges of operation. The GT12 through GT25 turbochargers are designed primarily for gasoline and diesel passenger car engines.
Garrett GT Mid-Frame Performance TurbochargersThe medium-frame GT Series of turbochargers are designed for commercial diesel engines application rated from 200 hp to 650 hp applications. The Garrett GT30 through GT45 turbochargers are typically installed on engines used in On and Off highway vehicles, farming, construction equipment, marine and stationary applications.
Garrett Large-Frame Performance Turbochargers
Incorporating an upgraded bearing system design for maximum durability with large rotating assemblies, the TV75 through GT60 turbochargers are custom matched for large commercial applications with engines rated from 550 hp to 1000 hp. Used in multiples, they will cost effectively support engine ratings as high as 4000 hp. This frame size includes options for maximum efficiency at ultra high pressure ratios and high temperature operations.
Here is the original well written article with pricing! (http://members.iinet.net.au/~johnh/garrett4.htm)
kewlsolara
21-04-2004, 06:57 AM
What does different stages in turbos mean???
e.g. Stage I turbo, Stage II turbo , Stage III , IV, V etc
BOosted' BOoya
21-04-2004, 07:10 AM
What does different stages in turbos mean???
e.g. Stage I turbo, Stage II turbo , Stage III , IV, V etc
where did you see that from?
im not sure totally about your question, but ill answer what i think will help you.
when you get something like a 'stage 1' turbo build, im sure it would be like
turbo S1 + manifolds under low boost only
then a stage 2 would build on that and go something like
turbo S1 + manifolds under slightly higher boost
stage 3
turbo S1 + manifolds high boost
stage 4
turbo S2 + manifolds + higher boost and wastegates etc etc.
so i think its all about how much power, and what the company that sells their kits refer to each specification.
to expand on that again, for example Street Torque might make 4 stages of turbo.
stage one could be such and such hardware making 200kw @ wheels
then stage two could be the same equiptment as stage one but with a larger turbo making 300kw,
stage 3, replacing wastegates, bov's and whatever on top of stage 3 to get 360kw,
and stage 4 could be the "booya inspired boosted edition" and hopefully crank 400+kw at the wheels :dancin:
each company can offer different degree's of 'kits' as such.. or perhaps there is a set benchmark industry figures for each "stage"....
m2c.
Ben.
kewlsolara
21-04-2004, 07:39 AM
thanks booya,
checked this link
http://www.turbo-kits.com/civic_turbo_kits.html
they got kits like got stage II and Stage III etc
BOosted' BOoya
21-04-2004, 07:45 AM
thanks booya,
checked this link
http://www.turbo-kits.com/civic_turbo_kits.html
they got kits like got stage II and Stage III etc
yer, pretty much what i said, they have different specs' and expected outputs for each 'stage' of work :)
BOoya
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