hey guys,

i have seen this kit on ebay what do you guys think about it,

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-4300K-6000K-8000K_W0QQitemZ120400269748QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_C ar_Parts_Accessories?hash=item120400269748&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1308#ebayphot ohosting

and would i need anything else other then the stuff in the kit to install this. regards,

KillaJatt

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66028&highlight=hid

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64627&highlight=hid

We need a sticky or wiki. For the eleventy billionth time.

ok, because you asked..

crap! dont do it..

HID globes shouldnt be fitted to non-HID reflectors and also need headlight washers and self-levelling devices for them to be LEGAL..

Its up to you though, however you will blind the hell out of oncomming motorists if you dont have them aimed right down, which is pretty much useless anyway..

also need headlight washers and self-levelling devices for them to be LEGAL..

What about factory cars fitted with HID's without headlight washers?

hey kj.ei thanks for the quick reply. yeah i did do the search before posting the question and i did read these two + some other threads on the forum. and i saw ppl are really divided over the issue so though i would ask for an opinion on the matter myself.

RINGA///ART so is there any other way to get more light on the stock wiring. my headlight produce a very pale light and are quite dim( i mean you can't even see them in a reasonably lit area). any ideas ??

Do you have parabolic headlights? Not much you can do unfortunately. They are a **** design apparently. I suffer the same problem.

Those who haven't used them complain like crazy that they're illegal (yet how many are driving around with 20% tint or less? :nuts: ), they blind other motorists (never been flashed once, and having adjusted my headlights to suit the HIDs I don't find them any worse than halogens), and that the beam pattern is screwed up (it's just a brighter bulb in essence, you're not doing anything to the beam pattern IMO).

Those that have them (I do) love them. The amount of extra light on the road is amazing.

They were pretty basic to fit, didn't need to do any wiring - mine were plug and play.

parabolic no i have stock headlights in the car its a TF, below is the pic of the car.

http://find-a-driver.com/sher-khalsa/mymagna.jpg

They do blind other drivers......Its known fact that they glare...

They are 90% cheap nasty kits....Save your money....get some good headlights...

Just do it.

what do you mean by good headlights, parabolics ???

Just do it.

Agree.

HID's are very high on my to-do list.

Nah parabolics are crap for light. Just get some HID's, make sure the are aligned properly and be done with it.

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57256

Visit Links, Look at how crap chinese HID kits are, buy better bulbs....etc etc...

I have two sets from that same seller on ebay, low beam and spotties both 6000k high beam coming soon.

I went against what most people advised when i got mine and i love them, as does everyone else that has them.

-Everyone on here that doesn't have them will have a cry and tell you not to get them
-Everyone on here that does have them love them

As for being too bright and glarey, i have never been flashed and most people that have them say the same thing so they cant be that bad.

If you want to give it a go mate, just do it the kits are cheap and easy to fit. When i first wanted some nice bulbs in my car i went and priced the Phillips Diamond vision or whatever they are, something stupid like about $150 a pair thats when i decided to get HID's.

Those who haven't used them complain like crazy that they're illegal (yet how many are driving around with 20% tint or less? :nuts: ), they blind other motorists (never been flashed once, and having adjusted my headlights to suit the HIDs I don't find them any worse than halogens), and that the beam pattern is screwed up (it's just a brighter bulb in essence, you're not doing anything to the beam pattern IMO).

Those that have them (I do) love them. The amount of extra light on the road is amazing.

They were pretty basic to fit, didn't need to do any wiring - mine were plug and play.
No offence to you mate, but on the Sunny Coast QMD cruise, one of your headlights was blinding me from behind all day. The other side wasn't much better, but one of them was shining right in my eyes from my rear vision mirror - remember I told you about it... very annoying!

No offence to you mate, but on the Sunny Coast QMD cruise, one of your headlights was blinding me from behind all day. The other side wasn't much better, but one of them was shining right in my eyes from my rear vision mirror - remember I told you about it... very annoying!
I also noticed that your headlight facing the oncoming traffic was the one that pointed higher. It should be the other way around. (Unless you have changed it recently)

do it

i'd say do it as well mate. i've had them in my car before and loved them. thats y im gna be putting them in my car again this weekend!! Like its been said earlier in this thread, people who dont have em dont like em, people who have/had them love em.

i'd say do it as well mate. i've had them in my car before and loved them. thats y im gna be putting them in my car again this weekend!! Like its been said earlier in this thread, people who dont have em dont like em, people who have/had them love em.

Like nuclear missiles?

don't get them, they're terrible for other drivers, especially in inclement weather, and just generally make you look foolish.

i have um... osram nightbreakers. or maybe the philips equivalent, can't remember, but at any rate these are just standard halogen bulbs and are fantastic.

Like nuclear missiles?

more like your threadmine


daniels asianvision ones seem pretty good, and not too blinding, just they dont seem to be working half the time

more like your threadmine


daniels asianvision ones seem pretty good, and not too blinding, just they dont seem to be working half the time

Haha! Ive got mine fixed now - the ballast was faulty but the guy (ebay store) replaced it for me free of charge.

I could be tempted to do the conversion in the fog lights and then set them up as driving lights but in head lights, no offence to those with them, no way

aye i agree do it! i dont have em but want em! just gotta get off my ass and buy some off ebay! i figure even if they only last 1.5 years still longer then diamond visions would last appraently. Luck of the draw i spoz!..the moral is..do it!!

Got the same kits as you have there.

Awesome amount of light.

Never going back to Halogens, and never been flashed.

it my turn....
HID dont glare if installed properly... you have the std hella lights which are an excellent light.... good cut and light control.... as opposed to the para's which are cheap product made by stanley for aethetics only
if you install HID's yes it will be illegal but if you have the focus set by a professional with a focusing machine and not a %^#^^#$ wall with a line, set them to -2% then there will be no more glare than a std halogen set at -1%

if one wants a headlight washer then its as easy as fitting a high pressure water pump to the headlight feed and washer pump earth and setting up a set of sprayers on the bumper

as for adjustment why dont subaru's and mazda's need them?

choose a colour temp between 4200 and 6000K for best results as this is a good range of white to daylight white
and dont exceed 35 watts
also cheap kits are exactly that, go for phillips kits, little more but alot better

I could be tempted to do the conversion in the fog lights and then set them up as driving lights but in head lights, no offence to those with them, no way

its not illegal for high beam either.... in WA anyways

also cheap kits are exactly that, go for phillips kits, little more but alot better

A little more? aren't phillips kits like hundreds of dollars compared to about $90 delivered on the cheapos.

I haven't had a single problem with my cheapos yet

if you install HID's yes it will be illegal but if you have the focus set by a professional with a focusing machine and not a %^#^^#$ wall with a line, set them to -2% then there will be no more glare than a std halogen set at -1%

if one wants a headlight washer then its as easy as fitting a high pressure water pump to the headlight feed and washer pump earth and setting up a set of sprayers on the bumper

when you put it that way..... why would you even bother?

well the light is still a hell of a lot better than halogen, the immediate road area is well lit to about 50 meters and at far distances you still got the same level of light that a halogen produces but with better response from signage

still well worth it

A little more? aren't phillips kits like hundreds of dollars compared to about $90 delivered on the cheapos.

I haven't had a single problem with my cheapos yet

you've obviously been lucky, we started out fitting the cheaper kits and found that their ballasts were burning out prematurely and also the globes are made of glass and not quartz so suffer from heat stress

nice experiment get a phillips globe and an austa or equivalent cheap globe, some irrigation drippers and a thick perspex shield, get the globes hot and proceed to drip water on them.... the phillips will survive, the cheapie will go BANG!!

thats why Phillips/ Hella/ Bosch lighting products cost more

These are the phillips ones, dual filament H4 I believe is what magnas use

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PHILIPS-H4-BI-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT_W0QQitemZ150345541079QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item23014ae5d7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C 301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

beautiful arent they...

beautiful arent they...

If I was to get HIDs that's what I'd get, I have diamond vision at the moment, and to tell the truth, not impressed with them, especially in crappy weather like the last week or so here... don't seem to throw as much light as I remember them throwing in my other cars with them.

So for those that have Parra's, and use either a Philips HID kit or whatever, does anyone have problems with the reflector bulb cover touching the return wire on the bulb?

Im thinking of putting a thin spacer between the bulb and the headligh, so there is a bit of a gab between the return wire and bulb cover

so i was driving home tonight and a car headed towards me had headlights which were fairly white but up close the bulb seemed to have a multi colour effect? wasn't really obvious from a distance but up close you could see like.... yellow, pink, green, blue etc... it looked awesome! what kind of bulbs are these?

so i was driving home tonight and a car headed towards me had headlights which were fairly white but up close the bulb seemed to have a multi colour effect? wasn't really obvious from a distance but up close you could see like.... yellow, pink, green, blue etc... it looked awesome! what kind of bulbs are these?

I think those are the projectors.... Someone correct me if im wrong though. Like those that Audi, BMW etc etc have.

i recently bought and installed a set of phillips blue vision h7's in my parras (3rd gen)
4300k
they light up the road on lo-beam about as much as i feel necessary.. i really dont see the need for anything brighter - they are much better than the factory h4 globes and really, if you need any more light than these produce.. you should be using hi-beams anyway, so i dont see the need for HIds

i agree the HID s i have got them on my TE both lo- beam and frog light (lo-beam 6000k/forg light 8000k)i think they are great and i don t usally turn on the frog light which the blue will not affect other people. on the lo-beam i think they are ok and i suggest people put them on but not the blue one because they will blind people out .

i recently bought and installed a set of phillips blue vision h7's in my parras (3rd gen)
4300k
they light up the road on lo-beam about as much as i feel necessary.. i really dont see the need for anything brighter - they are much better than the factory h4 globes and really, if you need any more light than these produce.. you should be using hi-beams anyway, so i dont see the need for HIds

I consider good headlights up there among good tyres and other safety related items,and also for driver comfort,i have yet to have a car that has satisfied my needs/expectations and that i cant "over drive" stock,i have always ran relays,uprated globes,re-alinged them etc,parras with blue visions are far from good light output due to the terrible reflector design,but drive a car with great low and high beam performance,you will realise what you have been missing out on!

Steve

i agree the HID s i have got them on my TE both lo- beam and frog light (lo-beam 6000k/forg light 8000k)i think they are great and i don t usally turn on the frog light which the blue will not affect other people. on the lo-beam i think they are ok and i suggest people put them on but not the blue one because they will blind people out .

The higher the Kelvin rating,the LOWER the light output,so a 4300k globe will always produce more lumens and therfore light on the road then a 6000 or 8000k light,all factory HIDs are around 4200k because of this

Cheers
Steve

I consider good headlights up there among good tyres and other safety related items,and also for driver comfort,i have yet to have a car that has satisfied my needs/expectations and that i cant "over drive" stock,i have always ran relays,uprated globes,re-alinged them etc,parras with blue visions are far from good light output from what we are told from there terrible design,but drive a car with great low and high beam performance,you will realise what you have been missing out on!

Steve

May I ask what your globe preference's are? I've been told the newer era of +80% 60/55's bulb's give out just as much light as 100/80's. Any thoughts/knowledge on this?

;1053374']May I ask what your globe preference's are? I've been told the newer era of +80% 60/55's bulb's give out just as much light as 100/80's. Any thoughts/knowledge on this?

Sure mate,

Without any upgrades and for poly lenses,the best by far is the Philips X-tremes +80%,i reckon they are a great match for the 80/100 on low beam,but lose out in the highs a little,but are a great alternative if no relays are fitted and you have plastic lenses like i said previous,if you do decide to go overwatt bulbs,the philips "Rally" or now "Essential Vision" globes produce the most lumens per watt than nearly any other overwatt bulb on the market,but must be fitted with relays as the voltage drop will increase with added draw these globes will have,and yep,ive tested all these bulbs!

Oh,on closing,always check the voltages at the headlight plugs to see if you are getting voltage drop at the globes,as this is major contributor to dull lights!,it is worked out that 5% voltage drop will see a 20% loss of brilliance,something to do with the 4th power of the volatge law etc,no good having the bets globes and reflectors if the globes are not receiving full voltage!

Cheers

Steevo - Thanks for that. All 2nd gen lens's are glass which is why I want the brightest, best output lights I can buy.
Although in the diamante wiring loom I have spread out atm the wiring looks quite substantial. Looks identical to the 4mmsq wiring I have in the toolbox.
I was recommended to go 4mm sq min for upgraded wiring.

;1053393']Steevo - Thanks for that. All 2nd gen lens's are glass which is why I want the brightest, best output lights I can buy.
Although in the diamante wiring loom I have spread out atm the wiring looks quite substantial. Looks identical to the 4mmsq wiring I have in the toolbox.
I was recommended to go 4mm sq min for upgraded wiring.


Cool,4mm i usually normally ok as 100 watts will draw approx 8 amps,but it depends on how far it has to run to get from the headlight switch to the bulb etc of course on the original loom as to wether it will get volatge drop or not,i use 6mm on the 30 and 86 feed and earth terminals on the relay and keep it (relay) as close as possible to the battery, 3mm for the trigger and 5mm twin on the 87 ouputs to the bulbs,overkill i know but i like it heavy!

with the bulbs,if it were me,id be running the philips Rally 80/100 H4`s and Rally 100 watt highs (H1?) for max light output

Steve

So for those that have Parra's, and use either a Philips HID kit or whatever, does anyone have problems with the reflector bulb cover touching the return wire on the bulb?

Im thinking of putting a thin spacer between the bulb and the headligh, so there is a bit of a gab between the return wire and bulb cover

then the light will be out of focus and unfocusable, get shorter globes(hens teeth), or bend the shield forward a bit

then the light will be out of focus and unfocusable, get shorter globes(hens teeth), or bend the shield forward a bit

I tried to bend it, but its almost impossible.

I bet many people have HIDs in para's yet I don't understand why I am having so many issues with them. I just tried it again today. both turn themselves off after around 10sec. But if i take them out and light them up just hanging there, they remain on for ages. So they are shorting out on the bulb cover. piece of crap headlights. seriously.

Dont understand why the damn bulbs have to be sooo much longer than normal H7 bulbs. The HID bulb is around 2inches in length. soo bloody frustrated right now!!!

yeah so you risk breakin em' to bend em (break your adjustment rigging and its game over) may be easier to remove the lamp assy and open it up.... or source some stubby HID globes.
this is why i hate para/ freeform HID conversions too much BS.

Talk to Life, he's got'em and in love with them

I tried to bend it, but its almost impossible.

I bet many people have HIDs in para's yet I don't understand why I am having so many issues with them. I just tried it again today. both turn themselves off after around 10sec. But if i take them out and light them up just hanging there, they remain on for ages. So they are shorting out on the bulb cover. piece of crap headlights. seriously.

Dont understand why the damn bulbs have to be sooo much longer than normal H7 bulbs. The HID bulb is around 2inches in length. soo bloody frustrated right now!!!


mate i got HID's in parra's and the foggies, the only issue i got is the bulb touchin the reflector in the foglight not the parra's had to unscrew the reflector n bend it, and thats all... i've had them for over 18 months now n got no issues at all since, parra's just needed some spacers to fit into the clip n dats it :D, take some photos let us see :ninja:

mate i got HID's in parra's and the foggies, the only issue i got is the bulb touchin the reflector in the foglight not the parra's had to unscrew the reflector n bend it, and thats all... i've had them for over 18 months now n got no issues at all since, parra's just needed some spacers to fit into the clip n dats it :D, take some photos let us see :ninja:

Could you tell me how you unsrewed the reflector?
Also how long are your bulbs? And where did you put the spacers???

I hot HIDs in my verada - low and fog lights. they are 35W to 55W adajustable from a remote in the car. i didnt get the gay blue ones - i got the 4300K daylight white. and even set at 35W they are blinding! i get hi beamed by a lot of people - can not even drive with the fogs on or traffic goes crazy hi beaming me. but they *********** light up everything. i never realised how bad halogen globes were.

i also got a kit in my s13 (projector lights) - they look cool.

Could you tell me how you unsrewed the reflector?
Also how long are your bulbs? And where did you put the spacers???

if you need spacers or need to bend - then you are ordering the wrong kit with the wrong globes. mine fit in with out any issue and plenty of clearance.

I hot HIDs in my verada - low and fog lights. they are 35W to 55W adajustable from a remote in the car. i didnt get the gay blue ones - i got the 4300K daylight white. and even set at 35W they are blinding! i get hi beamed by a lot of people - can not even drive with the fogs on or traffic goes crazy hi beaming me. but they *********** light up everything. i never realised how bad halogen globes were.

i also got a kit in my s13 (projector lights) - they look cool.

hey man can you linky me to these controlable ones?

if you need spacers or need to bend - then you are ordering the wrong kit with the wrong globes. mine fit in with out any issue and plenty of clearance.

How many different H7's are there? These came with the kit I purchased, which is a H7 kit. However the HID bulbs are longer than the H7 halogen globes i had....

How many different H7's are there? These came with the kit I purchased, which is a H7 kit. However the HID bulbs are longer than the H7 halogen globes i had....

the Chinese kits tend to be like that

hey man can you linky me to these controlable ones?

contact ZHONGcreative on


azn_chinga@hotmail.com

tell him Angelo/KMAKAZ recommend you.

i get hi beamed by a lot of people - can not even drive with the fogs on or traffic goes crazy hi beaming me

Doesn't that tell you something? :think:

the Chinese kits tend to be like that

so what kit do you use? Philips? As most **** is made in china nowadays

Doesn't that tell you something? :think:


:stoopid:

yup, that a 35W HID is a **** load brighter than 55W Halogen!


which is why i got my head lights re-alligned to compensate this at Mitsubishi Chadstone.

so what kit do you use? Philips? As most **** is made in china nowadays



some JAP brand. the guy who supplied them and installed them into both my verada and Silvia is a member of the nissansilvia.com forums and he does HID kits.

:stoopid:

yup, that a 35W HID is a **** load brighter than 55W Halogen!


which is why i got my head lights re-alligned to compensate this at Mitsubishi Chadstone.
Do you still get flashed since you got the lights re-aligned?

Do you still get flashed since you got the lights re-aligned?


only when i have my foggies on too. the realignment meant dipping the globes more than normal - but they are still brighter and give out more lumen - so there is no loss in visibility.

it makes them look like its a pair of angry eyes looking at you!

so did they say how much the dipped the focus?... cause i've found that even on -2% they still can be quite glarey