We've had a bit of a mishap here. As you do, we removed the seats, unclipped the parcel shelf and removed it from the car. Cut the holes to the 6x9 shape and dimensions with 4 holes around each for the screws- as per the provided instructions from Pioneer's "installation guide".

The problem arose when I opened the Pioneer box and realised they had supplied these wonderfully pissweak little screws, with barely enough length to reach the board let alone the chassis screw points. So I could have added attachment points to the board itself, but it was too late. Because we had drilled the holes for the screws to go through, the clips we tried to use wouldn't grip the board and ended up just tearing the edges.

So, i'm now down to 2 speakers and my Verada has a ****ed parcel shelf board. All because the screws were too short.

Now i'm looking to grab a Verada parcel shelf from the wreckers and while i'm at it, perhaps the correct length screws to actually fit these speakers to the car. However before I go doing that, or provided I can't find another Verada parcel shelf (in which case a Magna Charcoal one is exactly the same), I would be interested to know how some of our other second gen members have fitted their 6x9 rear speakers to their cars.



Oh and next time, i'll avoid the instructions in the box. At least the guides I used on my old TR were professional and fitted perfectly. Thankfully, for now it doesn't *look* awful, but it sure does sound bad.

Couldn't you just mount the shelf, bolt it the car with the speakers screwed to it? Don't think you need to have the speakers bolted to the car if you've got a MDF shelf?

That's what the second plan is from here on out, provided I can find another parcel shelf. The existing one is pretty well unusable now. Had the instructions in the installation guide not specified otherwise it's probably what we would have done initially too.

In my previous second gen, the speaker screws went through the MDF and directly into the existing chassis screw attachments. This worked quite well, but clearly isn't simple to achieve.

If the board has sufficient strength though, i'll screw the speakers directiy into the new one then fit it.

Not even going to touch the front doors, let someone else work those out.

Alright, i've wired up the rear speakers anyway. Instead of running new wiring I used the factory wiring and fixed new spade terminals to the ends (in keeping with the "maintaining factory electrical where possible" goal). Rear speakers sound awesome- very pleased with Pioneer in this department.

The head unit, still waiting to go in, needs an ISO to Pioneer wiring harness converter since this Verada doesn't seem to use the standard Mitsubishi head unit connectors. Even the factory head unit uses what seems to be ISO connectors. Does this seem strange at all? I thought all Mitsubishis from 1991 onward (uncertain of First Gens) used the Mitsubishi proprietary connectors?

I'll run the front door wiring directly from the converter wiring harness into the front doors, then leave the actual trim cutting to a professional (too much at risk for a home job). The remaining wiring i'll do myself.

After that it's pretty much done. :D



But yeah, couple of questions... first of all, for curiosity factor, is the Mitsubishi Verada factory stereo connectors. Is this a Bitsa car with ISO connectors or did all KR Veradas use the ISO connector instead of the Mitsubishi connector?

Second question is at the battery terminal end. If I want to attach a new brass battery terminal to cater potentially for a sub/amp (or just because the old ones are quite worn)... what would be the best method to remove the old battery terminals? De-crimp the wires from the terminal, cut the terminal off completely or replace the battery leads altogether?


Cheers
- Michael

id like to know how you made a parcel shelf completly stuffed just using screws supplied by pionner, any chance you can post a pic for the curious cat ( of the shelf)

Is yours different to mine or something..... mine had holes for 6x9's and they bolted straight in

Is yours different to mine or something..... mine had holes for 6x9's and they bolted straight in


Same?

Same?
Well the shelf carpet doesn't. I basically cut ours out from underneath using the chassis 6x9 openings as a guide, then placed the template for the 6x9 over the cut out to make the holes through the carpet. The screws on the Sony 6x9's I used were plenty long enough and just went straight through to the chassis. If your screws aren't long enough just find longer screws that fit the thread on the shelf. Easy :P

Well the shelf carpet doesn't. I basically cut ours out from underneath using the chassis 6x9 openings as a guide, then placed the template for the 6x9 over the cut out to make the holes through the carpet. The screws on the Sony 6x9's I used were plenty long enough and just went straight through to the chassis. If your screws aren't long enough just find longer screws that fit the thread on the shelf. Easy :P


Yeah i had to cut the carpet too, mine being the exec model, and yeah i think the supplied screws with the pioneers that i got were to short aswell. like said, get longer ones.

Parcel shelf *carpet* is what's damaged, and it's not completely stuffed... longer screws down to the chassis and she'd be fine. If I want to mount the speakers directly to the MDF though, the speaker holes are cut *too* wide, so there's nothing for the screws to grip on to.

So it's not stuffed- but it's just unusable should I intend to mount them directly to the MDF, which i'd rather do.

Good news is that my front door installations went perfectly in every way, and the head unit installation went just as well. :thumbsup: Just tidy up the parcel shelf and she'll be sweet.

Parcel shelf *carpet* is what's damaged, and it's not completely stuffed... longer screws down to the chassis and she'd be fine. If I want to mount the speakers directly to the MDF though, the speaker holes are cut *too* wide, so there's nothing for the screws to grip on to.

So it's not stuffed- but it's just unusable should I intend to mount them directly to the MDF, which i'd rather do.

Good news is that my front door installations went perfectly in every way, and the head unit installation went just as well. :thumbsup: Just tidy up the parcel shelf and she'll be sweet.

oh so the problem isnt the screws its you cut the holes to big??

anyways for the price of a 2nd hand chipboard crap shelf from the wreckers if your good enough with a jigsaw ( doesnt require much) spend 11.50 at bunnings and buy a sheet of 16ml mdf ( medium density fibreboard) and use your existing shelf to make a new one

from one sheet you can make 3 parcel shelf so u can stuff it up twice :P

and yeah just strech your existing carpet or use new stuff upto you

i believe mdf is alot better tho a little heaver but im sure someone here will have a 2nd opinion on that for you, soz bout the spelling i got the flu and thinking is hard atm

as for screws just buy apacket at bunnings for 3.00 for like 20, gives you spares