sup guys

got a mate with a ralliart who has scored a set of evo brembos.

question is what off set wheels would he need for these???

ta
Ash

It's either +35 or +38, but I think you also have to take into account the style of wheel as well. I would look at the dish and the spoke clearance on the rim also.
See if some of the wheel shops will let you trial fit, or you could look at rims that fit Evo's as I believe there the same PCD as the Magnas.

neither of my 18x8s (+38 and +35) fitted without spacers.

my track rims fit just fine (17x7.5 +38) with heaps of clearance.

like grelise said, it's not offset that's the killer, it's spoke pattern. most shops will let you trial fit rims, but that doesn't make much sense if you can't drive there with the brakes on :nuts:.

if he picked up the rears as well, make sure he knows the rotor won't fit without a spacer.

cheers,
.wook

i had +30 offset rims on my evo once that needed a 5mm spacer... but the stock evo enkie's are +38 offset

maybe some stock evo rims could be the go... otherwise check evo forums for used aftermarket rims.. expect to pay big dollors though

it doesnt matter what the offset is, look at the x factor.

As above, the design plays a BIG part on the wheels.

When I fitted Sam's Brembo's we had issues with the offset as the tyre shop had supplied the wrong rims, we used a 5mm spacer however this could be removed if the inside of the spoke was "trimmed" which on these wheels there is plenty of meat available

Aslo, on the backs, you will need to make new hoses if you want to correctly fit as the body fitting is slightly different.

is it really safe to remove "meat" from rims? personally id never do it, id just buy rims that fit

when i got brembos for the magna my rims had a +45 offset, but the wheels i had to get to fit over brembos were +35 offset. so the offset is irrelevant when it comes to fitment with brembos

thanks guys.

big help :D

Pfft.. Dont change your wheel to suit your brakes. Mod the whole car to make the brakes fit behind the same wheels. It was so much more fun and costly..:)

we all arnt mad indians like you jason singh

lol

when i got brembos for the magna my rims had a +45 offset, but the wheels i had to get to fit over brembos were +35 offset. so the offset is irrelevant when it comes to fitment with brembos

hows it irrelevant? that makes total sense.. good luck finding a wheel in +45 offset to clear brembo's.. but you'll find plenty in +30 to +35 offset that do

its not irrelevant.. its VERY relevant... there is just more to it than offset.... youll find a +35 offset wheel that will fit, then next +35 one might not

you probably never find a wheel in +45 offset to clear brembos on a magna ..

alot of aftermarket evo wheels (what you need) are usually around +30 offset .....

hows it irrelevant? that makes total sense.. good luck finding a wheel in +45 offset to clear brembo's.. but you'll find plenty in +30 to +35 offset that do

its not irrelevant.. its VERY relevant... there is just more to it than offset.... youll find a +35 offset wheel that will fit, then next +35 one might not
you probably never find a wheel in +45 offset to clear brembos on a magna ..

alot of aftermarket evo wheels (what you need) are usually around +30 offset .....

its not the offest that matters, everyone has been saying the same thing, this means its VERY irrelevant.

edit - you even stated this in your post

its not the offest that matters, everyone has been saying the same thing, this means its VERY irrelevant.

edit - you even stated this in your post

when i say its not the offset that matter... i didnt mean its irrelevant... you still need to find rims at the right end of the offset scale....... +45 is way off the scale....

i didnt say its not relevant... its very relevant....

what i meant was dont pick a rim only by its offset

to the OP....offset is very very relevant.. the closer you get to +30 the easier it will be to find a rim to suit.. but as ive already point it ..just because its +38 or lower doesnt mean it'll clear.. the x-factor is the other thing to worry about...easiest way is to chuck the rim on the car and see how u go...

i dont see the offset being relevant, dave from rpw reccomends +41 onwards to fit brembos (which i proved to be wrong)

gremlin is right, the only way to find rims is to test fit. most good tyre shops will let you test fit. just take a brembo calliper with you to bolt on (no need to disconnect the standard one) to make sure of the clearance.

from memory i think the rim needs 65mm clearance from the hat of the rotor. i posted my findings in another thread, maybe my members machine thread

from memory you need approximately 85 to 90 mm gap between the rotor and the rim :) dont take my word for it, cos i havent got time to check at this present time... hope that helps ya

yeah im talking about the part of the rotor that sits flush with the rim, is this called the hat?

i dont see the offset being relevant, dave from rpw reccomends +41 onwards to fit brembos (which i proved to be wrong)


dave from rpw is incorrect in offering that advice.....

mate, all im saying is that offset is very relevant.. if you totally ignore offset you'll spend half your day testing out rims in the +40 offset and above and im telling ya your wasting your time.. (you might find one but jesus, good luck!)

if you set out to look for +28 to +38 rims... you'll have plenty of rims to choose from and will eventually find one...

so saying offset is irrelevant is only going to waste your time looking at +40 and above offset rims

if it was irrelevant than there would be just about any offset wheel, with a certain xfactor that could suit... and this certainly isnt the case

look for rims in that offset range and test em out....

**and ignore dave from rpw as most of us do anyway**

dave from rpw is incorrect in offering that advice.....

mate, all im saying is that offset is very relevant.. if you totally ignore offset you'll spend half your day testing out rims in the +40 offset and above and im telling ya your wasting your time.. (you might find one but jesus, good luck!)

if you set out to look for +28 to +38 rims... you'll have plenty of rims to choose from and will eventually find one...

so saying offset is irrelevant is only going to waste your time looking at +40 and above offset rims

if it was irrelevant than there would be just about any offset wheel, with a certain xfactor that could suit... and this certainly isnt the case

look for rims in that offset range and test em out....

**and ignore dave from rpw as most of us do anyway**


RPW and Dave T :gfight:

dave from rpw is incorrect in offering that advice.....

mate, all im saying is that offset is very relevant.. if you totally ignore offset you'll spend half your day testing out rims in the +40 offset and above and im telling ya your wasting your time.. (you might find one but jesus, good luck!)

if you set out to look for +28 to +38 rims... you'll have plenty of rims to choose from and will eventually find one...

so saying offset is irrelevant is only going to waste your time looking at +40 and above offset rims

if it was irrelevant than there would be just about any offset wheel, with a certain xfactor that could suit... and this certainly isnt the case

look for rims in that offset range and test em out....

**and ignore dave from rpw as most of us do anyway**

i do ignore him now

i honestly dont see the offset mattering at all, its the x factor and x factor only that matters.

rims arent that hard to find that fit over the brakes. skylines and evos have plenty of options for you to choose from, i wouldve had more options if i was willing to go to sydney (im allergic to crowds)

is it really safe to remove "meat" from rims? personally id never do it, id just buy rims that fit

when i got brembos for the magna my rims had a +45 offset, but the wheels i had to get to fit over brembos were +35 offset. so the offset is irrelevant when it comes to fitment with brembos

Is no worries if done right, not talking about doing it myself, more get an engineer to take the 3mm off a small area that would not make any differene

As for RPW, the formula for his advice is take the advice, reverse it, divide by your tax file number, print it to paper, wipe your ass with it and flush it and you will be closer.

i do ignore him now

i honestly dont see the offset mattering at all, its the x factor and x factor only that matters.


mate what arent you understanding

yes xfactor is one issue

if offset doesnt matter set out to find some +48 offset rims with the "correct" xfactor to clear brembo's.. let me no what you find.... oh wait u cant, cause the offset DOES matter.....

i no there is alot of rims for evo's with brembo's... with the offset in the correct range... any old offset wont work.. to much postive and ull hit the brakes.. to much negative they hang out of the guards... offset is extremelly important and id suggest the OP sticks to the range ive suggested when looking for rims


OR go get some +3 offset rims with the right xfactor.. clear the brakes lovely.. and hang out the guards like nothng else.. be real good........................not

jason.... lol at dave from rpw :facejump:

Is no worries if done right, not talking about doing it myself, more get an engineer to take the 3mm off a small area that would not make any differene

As for RPW, the formula for his advice is take the advice, reverse it, divide by your tax file number, print it to paper, wipe your ass with it and flush it and you will be closer.
You forgot the part where you pay him a lot of money for the pleasure.

mate what arent you understanding

yes xfactor is one issue

if offset doesnt matter set out to find some +48 offset rims with the "correct" xfactor to clear brembo's.. let me no what you find.... oh wait u cant, cause the offset DOES matter.....

i no there is alot of rims for evo's with brembo's... with the offset in the correct range... any old offset wont work.. to much postive and ull hit the brakes.. to much negative they hang out of the guards... offset is extremelly important and id suggest the OP sticks to the range ive suggested when looking for rims


OR go get some +3 offset rims with the right xfactor.. clear the brakes lovely.. and hang out the guards like nothng else.. be real good........................not

jason.... lol at dave from rpw :facejump:

simply put....... YOURE WRONG, thats what i understand

im not saying that +30 wont fit. what im saying is you will find rims +41 that will fit also....... so why look at the offset? just look at the rim style and go from there. offset means SFA in this case

As for RPW, the formula for his advice is take the advice, reverse it, divide by your tax file number, print it to paper, wipe your ass with it and flush it and you will be closer.

just saw this..thats gold dust! :facejump:

simply put....... YOURE WRONG, thats what i understand

im not saying that +30 wont fit. what im saying is you will find rims +41 that will fit also....... so why look at the offset? just look at the rim style and go from there. offset means SFA in this case
:facejump:

Funny stuff.

. <- Point. ------------------->You.

simply put....... YOURE WRONG, thats what i understand

im not saying that +30 wont fit. what im saying is you will find rims +41 that will fit also....... so why look at the offset? just look at the rim style and go from there. offset means SFA in this case

simply put you dont no what your on about.. i dont think you even understand what offset is.. look at your orginal post....


when i got brembos for the magna my rims had a +45 offset, but the wheels i had to get to fit over brembos were +35 offset. so the offset is irrelevant when it comes to fitment

hang on you were amazed that you had +45 wheels that didnt clear brembo's and that you had to get +35 wheels that did clear brembo's... so you got wheels the sit 10mm further away from the brakes and your suprised that this is how it happened... mate your own person experience proves what im saying... +45 offset wheels are near impossible to find to clear brembo's... +35 offset is in the "range" i keep referring to... and ill say it again.. just cause its +35 offset doesnt mean it'll clear the brembo's.. the xfactor is the next issue to look at here

but no, as you say, im wrong, offset means nothing... :nuts: OP ignore this dude, he needs to learn what offset means before trying to teach ppl about what rims to buy


with your stupid advice he could end up with +3 offset and have rims that hang out of the guards...

simply put you dont no what your on about.. i dont think you even understand what offset is.. look at your orginal post....



hang on you were amazed that you had +45 wheels that didnt clear brembo's and that you had to get +35 wheels that did clear brembo's... so you got wheels the sit 10mm further away from the brakes and your suprised that this is how it happened... mate your own person experience proves what im saying... +45 offset wheels are near impossible to find to clear brembo's... +35 offset is in the "range" i keep referring to... and ill say it again.. just cause its +35 offset doesnt mean it'll clear the brembo's.. the xfactor is the next issue to look at here

but no, as you say, im wrong, offset means nothing... :nuts: OP ignore this dude, he needs to learn what offset means before trying to teach ppl about what rims to buy


with your stupid advice he could end up with +3 offset and have rims that hang out of the guards...

youre full of ****

suck me

the first thing id look at is the x factor.

youre full of ****

suck me

wow ok .. im not coming down to that level buddy, ill leave this debat here

your signature explains alot about you

"AMC TALKS A LOT OF CRAP DIVISION"

mate what arent you understanding



simply put....... YOURE WRONG

Easiest way to settle this is you both go get a 5mm spacer each and on the count of three start chewing in it. Who ever munches threw it first wins a pair of verner calipers to measure the distance between your brembos and your xfactor and see how much offset you both have let.:io:

the first thing id look at is the x factor.

first thing u should look at is some doco's on wheels... learn what offset is.. learn what xfactor is....

then u can look at giving advice

Easiest way to settle this is you both go get a 5mm spacer each and on the count of three start chewing in it. Who ever munches threw it first wins a pair of verner calipers to measure the distance between your brembos and your xfactor and see how much offset you both have let.:io:


:facejump: im keen

first thing u should look at is some doco's on wheels... learn what offset is.. learn what xfactor is....

then u can look at giving advice

so what youre saying is the offset is more important than the x factor? what im saying is the x factor is more important than the offset. its really very simple

can you guys agree to disagree for a little while!!! :ninja:

so what youre saying is the offset is more important than the x factor? what im saying is the x factor is more important than the offset. its really very simple

no im saying they are both important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you CANNOT disregard offset...... and you cannot disregard xfactor when trying to clear big brakes

only debate here is that your telling us the offset is not relevant... that is insane... im trying to point out the guy could end up with very very wrong rims for the car if he ignores the offset..but u come and tell me im just plain wrong and to suck you..

it is very simple.. im suprised you cant get ur head around it... as i said OP, ignore this guy, he seriously has no idea what so ever....

there is also the width of the rim.. OP, if your going to look at an 8" wide rim keep it a bit above +30 otherwise it'll prob give you issues hanging out of the guards a bit much.... i personally probably wouldnt look at any lower than +32 with an 8" rim on a magna... +30 8" wide will be fine on an evo but not a magna.... my brother runs a +35 9" wide rim on his evo.. they sit nice..but they hang out massive on a 3rd gen magna.. (we tried them)...

mad35L give up please man, you dont no what your talking about and its not fair to give the OP such crazy advice thats only going to waste his time (and possibly money)...



Lenda... its not about agreeing or disagreeing.... MAD35L is giving incorrect advice which could cost him money if he ended up buying extremelly incorrect offset rims...

i seriously dont know why youre going on like this.

the offset isnt the main thing to look at is what im saying, i know it matters slightly (i really didnt expect the OP to rush out and buy +3 offset rims), but you will find rims +40 that fit also. the main thing to check is the x factor as this is what clears the calliper.......... am i wrong about that?

mad35L give up please man, you dont no what your talking about and its not fair to give the OP such crazy advice thats only going to waste his time (and possibly money)...



Lenda... its not about agreeing or disagreeing.... MAD35L is giving incorrect advice which could cost him money if he ended up buying extremelly incorrect offset rims...

how is it incorrect to say that x factor is more important than offset?

when asking about calliper clearance its really all about x factor

i seriously dont know why youre going on like this.

the offset isnt the main thing to look at is what im saying, i know it matters slightly (i really didnt expect the OP to rush out and buy +3 offset rims), but you will find rims +40 that fit also. the main thing to check is the x factor as this is what clears the calliper.......... am i wrong about that?

whats in bold is about the only correct thing youve said all nite

offset doesnt matter slightly.. it is extremelly important...in this scenario we are looking for an offset to assist clearing the brakes and to keep the rims inside the guards, depending on what width rim he wants.. the offset "range" this guy has to choose from is very narrow.. it is very important and needs to be investigated before even bothering to test fit rims to the car....

im attempting to offer this guy advice so we/he can determine what range the offset can be in order to suit a certain width rim (havent got this info yet), on a 3rd gen magna, with brembo's and not hang out of the guards.. offset in this case is very very important.... it'd be the first thing i worked out before even bothering showing up at a tyre shop...

so youve gone from saying offset is irrelevant to "matters slightly"... have you done some reading or am i convincing you?

maybe soon you'll agree offset is very important and we should assist this guy with advice on what offset rims to shop for.. rather than leaving him with your advice "offset is irrelevant"



how is it incorrect to say that x factor is more important than offset?

when asking about calliper clearance its really all about x factor

incorrect... if either is wrong the rim is useless on the car... wrong xfactor brakes wont clear... wrong offset, brakes wont clear OR will hit on, or hang out of guards depending what direction the offset is wrong in

after deciding on size and width, determine what offset/s you can use then go shopping for rims and measure/test fit for xfactor

whats in bold is about the only correct thing youve said all nite

offset doesnt matter slightly.. it is extremelly important...in this scenario we are looking for an offset to assist clearing the brakes and to keep the rims inside the guards, depending on what width rim he wants.. the offset "range" this guy has to choose from is very narrow.. it is very important and needs to be investigated before even bothering to test fit rims to the car....

im attempting to offer this guy advice so we/he can determine what range the offset can be in order to suit a certain width rim (havent got this info yet), on a 3rd gen magna, with brembo's and not hang out of the guards.. offset in this case is very very important.... it'd be the first thing i worked out before even bothering showing up at a tyre shop...

so youve gone from saying offset is irrelevant to "matters slightly"... have you done some reading or am i convincing you?

maybe soon you'll agree offset is very important and we should assist this guy with advice on what offset rims to shop for.. rather than leaving him with your advice "offset is irrelevant"

im not too arrogant to admit that i was wrong in saying its irrelevant, i am just arrogant enough to stick to my argument about x factor being more important. and i havent been reading, im far too lazy for that

Look out.. Tonba is learking in this thread now..


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I think you will find most wheel manufactuers list thier rims as 'brembo okay' if they will fit over them..

Have a look around. If this not listed, perhaps you should stop looking at the tempe specials.

Normally rims that clear brembos are a bit more expensive. It more the spoke design that determines if a rim will clear or not, although offset DOES come into play..

Look out.. Tonba is learking in this thread now..


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:roflwtf:

Tard...



:facejump:

First and final warning,

MAD35L, pull your head in and stop the abuse

Gremlin, I know you have an Evo, I know that you know what wheels fit and do not fit but please move on. We both know what does and does not fit as we have been there and done that.

I can see both of your points now lets move on and stop the BS

For some here who clearly have NFI about offset

http://www.speedywheels.com.au/wheel-tech.htm is simple enough for anyone to understand

cheers madmagna, will do

I normally don't post irrelvent garbage but LOL at this thread. Haha poor Chris bashing your head against a wall

instead of making a new thread im just gonna put it in here....

i am looking at buying some rims which are 18 x 8.5 with a 5x114.3 studd pattern and has an offset of 35+. just making sure this will fit on my car and the existing rubber will also fit which is 235/40/r18. any help please asap

instead of making a new thread im just gonna put it in here....

i am looking at buying some rims which are 18 x 8.5 with a 5x114.3 studd pattern and has an offset of 35+. just making sure this will fit on my car and the existing rubber will also fit which is 235/40/r18. any help please asap

from memory they will be fine man

stud pattern is fine, wheel width is pretty wide but still fine, offset is fine too

what rims, can i ask?

from memory they will be fine man

stud pattern is fine, wheel width is pretty wide but still fine, offset is fine too

what rims, can i ask?

its a secret for now ;)

its a secret for now ;)

So how can anyone assist you if you will not advise which rims :nuts:

Some with that offset will go on easy, some which we have tried will not come within a bulls roar of fitting

check with the people who make the rims mike
they'll be able to tell you whether they clear or not
normally states in the book if they are brembo capable or not

yeh they said it has big brake clearance and will fit on an evo and should fit on a magna, but they are coming from the states, so they compared it to a diamante. i just wanted to ensure that my rubber will fit onto the rim and to ensure it will fit onto the car, im taking the risk it will fit over the brakes.

considering your going that extra 1/2" the tyre will have to stretch more
dunno how far out it'll throw your speedo but might be a better option getting 245's at a later stage

yeh they said it has big brake clearance and will fit on an evo and should fit on a magna, but they are coming from the states, so they compared it to a diamante. i just wanted to ensure that my rubber will fit onto the rim and to ensure it will fit onto the car, im taking the risk it will fit over the brakes.

What are the specs of the wheel? Are the company guaranteeing that this wheel will fit on an Evo & clear the brakes with reasonable space?

18 x 8.5... 5x114.3 studd pattern... 35+ offset... they said it will fit over evo 10 brakes

if possible i would get a test fit done first

there coming from america... im trying to find out what there refund policy is.

i think you have the same arguement over and over again....but you both cant understand each other's points.

18 x 8.5... 5x114.3 studd pattern... 35+ offset... they said it will fit over evo 10 brakes

What's the difference between the evo 10 brakes and the earlier ones? Or is there?

If no difference, then the rest should be fine. Make sure it's a money back guarantee, if they don't fit.

18 x 8.5... 5x114.3 studd pattern... 35+ offset... they said it will fit over evo 10 brakes

are you using evo X brakes? is there a difference between them and evo7 brakes?

no evo 9, but im under the impression that evo X are bigger so it does mean something.

there coming from america... im trying to find out what there refund policy is.

So they arent sold over here? Otherwise just find out who sells them and go and have a test fit. Then you can be sure that the ones from America will fit...

are you using evo X brakes? if not that means nothing

What's the difference between the Evo X brembos & the previuos model's brembos?

Are the calipers larger or smaller?

no evo 9, but im under the impression that evo X are bigger so it does mean something.

assumption is the mother of all F ups, it might be an expensive lesson

are you sure theres no rims in the country that suit your needs?

assumption is the mother of all F ups, it might be an expensive lesson

are you sure theres no rims in the country that suit your needs?

yeh there are iv got some on there now!

i just like these rims, im glad i didnt make a new thread about this!

235 on an 8.5 inch rim will be fine but it will be stretched but not by much. this is what my 235s were like on my 8.5 inch rim (not the best pic but you can still see the little stretchness on the rubber

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/Ashneel911/R34/DSC_0094.jpg

also mate from work got speedy cheetahs for his ralliart and +30 offset on 8.5" is what he got with just enough clearance with the brembos. will see if i can get a pic

What's the difference between the Evo X brembos & the previuos model's brembos?

Are the calipers larger or smaller?
They are huge, I don't know if they are bigger then evo 9... but the evo x comes with stock 18x8.5, where the ix had 17x8. When I seen an Evo X up close, the brakes were HUGE!

Edit: Evo X brakes have larger pistons, therefore are 0.97 inches larger (13.97 inches) in comparison to VIII,IX which were 13.0 inches.

Nice Rims Ashneel! They are hot!

thanks mate. but then belong to liverpool_rules now lol

jump on www.evolutionoz.net and ask if a wheel designed to fit an evo X will fit an evo 9,job done.

thanks for that tyson, that confirms they were upgraded to six pot calipers :) so im all good! with clearance that is.

EVO X has bigger calipers and rotors. Rotors are 355mm front / 320mm rear as opposed to 320mm front and 300mm rear on EVO 9.

Wheels to fit both? Try some Advan RS or RG's.

^ *lol* I Wish... big $$$ for them... I would so love a set...