so I took my car to alberts to get my sound working again and they got it working at no cost (was a faulty power fuse). but while it was in there they told me my whole system needs a full rewiring and tune. aparantly my splits aren't wired right and its gonna kill them unless i fix it and he said my system has a lot more potential. well the problem is they quoted me $400 to get it rewired and tuned, which i thought was a lot over the top.

as I dont have that money and probably wont for a whlie, i was wondering if anybody would be willing to help me out for a cashie or a carton or something. I am aware its probably a full days work, but i would really like a professional job and I cant do that myself as I'm the one that wired it the first time.

so anybody who has a fair bit of stereo experience give me a buzz and price range.

Simo

Ahahaha

Splits arnt wired right and its going to kill them? Sorry, but bahahaha, thats a new one - love their 'work'.

Your speakers have two connections, a positive (+) and a negative (-).

These can actually be swapped around, all that will happen is your front speakers will be 180 degree's out of phase. It doesnt hurt them, they have no feelings so dont fret. Not really sure how badly you can screw that wiring up....so...

Back to the crux of your post.

If you really, really want - here's what you do.

Take pictures of your the following:

All earth points on your amp/s (usually a brown/black wire)
All connections on your amps (this should only really be two photo's)
Take your speakers out, and take a photo of how they are wired incorrectly :ninja:
Take a photo of your distribution block (if any)
Take a photo of your battery terminals


Post them up, and im sure either myself, or other people who regulary work with electrics will be able to tell you if you have any actual issues, and how to go about fixing them yourself.

Up to you - spend 1hour taking/uploading photo's and be shown how to fix any possible issues...and perhaps have a better understanding of what is happening, or have someone do it for you.

P.S A sound system cant get much better due to wiring (awaits flames....) unless your wiring is too thin of a gauge, or your RCA's running alongside your power cables....

Apart from that - not much can be gained from good wiring, except maybe your car not burning down.

Ahahaha

Splits arnt wired right and its going to kill them? Sorry, but bahahaha, thats a new one - love their 'work'.

Your speakers have two connections, a positive (+) and a negative (-).

These can actually be swapped around, all that will happen is your front speakers will be 180 degree's out of phase. It doesnt hurt them, they have no feelings so dont fret. Not really sure how badly you can screw that wiring up....so...

Back to the crux of your post.

If you really, really want - here's what you do.

Take pictures of your the following:

All earth points on your amp/s (usually a brown/black wire)
All connections on your amps (this should only really be two photo's)
Take your speakers out, and take a photo of how they are wired incorrectly :ninja:
Take a photo of your distribution block (if any)
Take a photo of your battery terminals


Post them up, and im sure either myself, or other people who regulary work with electrics will be able to tell you if you have any actual issues, and how to go about fixing them yourself.

Up to you - spend 1hour taking/uploading photo's and be shown how to fix any possible issues...and perhaps have a better understanding of what is happening, or have someone do it for you.

P.S A sound system cant get much better due to wiring (awaits flames....) unless your wiring is too thin of a gauge, or your RCA's running alongside your power cables....

Apart from that - not much can be gained from good wiring, except maybe your car not burning down.

Ers,

I agree mate,mind you, the only way i could see the splits are wired incorrectly is that he has the tweets on the woofer ouput on the crosssover or vice versa and they are getting the wrong frequency belted into them,but you would have to be deaf not to notice this no?,but like you said, aside from that,out of phase wont hurt them,just sound odd!

mate what area are you in?
might be able to lend a hand :D

Ers,

I agree mate,mind you, the only way i could see the splits are wired incorrectly is that he has the tweets on the woofer ouput on the crosssover or vice versa and they are getting the wrong frequency belted into them,but you would have to be deaf not to notice this no?,but like you said, aside from that,out of phase wont hurt them,just sound odd!

Yep thats another way.

Another could be having the (+) on the left woofer on the right (+) connection and vice versa....that could cause some problems.

What I dont understand is, why does it cost $400 to undo a total of 8 screws, re-arrange the wires, and screw them back down again? To me, its beyond a joke - and blatantly trying to take advantage of someone with minimal electrical knowledge - which I cant stand.

If it was such a danger, they should have told him what the danger was, and if it was me - I would have fixed something like that on the spot for nothing.

Yep thats another way.

Another could be having the (+) on the left woofer on the right (+) connection and vice versa....that could cause some problems.

What I dont understand is, why does it cost $400 to undo a total of 8 screws, re-arrange the wires, and screw them back down again? To me, its beyond a joke - and blatantly trying to take advantage of someone with minimal electrical knowledge - which I cant stand.

If it was such a danger, they should have told him what the danger was, and if it was me - I would have fixed something like that on the spot for nothing.

For sure,they call it "scare tactics", its easy to part a fool and his money,lucky this fella had more sense!

yeah mate as above printed this guy is taking advantage of you,

sadly rogue idiots like this do exist in all forms of business.

mr_rob offered a hand if his close to your area, that would be the easiest option if he is close enough.

as fo helping buddy, we would def need some pics of the connections before being able to say to much about the wiring

yeh well thats what I had thought. Probably coz they have fixed my audio for me 3 times now for no charge so they are trying to get some money out of me.

I thought I had a fairly decent understand of wiring up speakers. maybe when I have time probably next long weekend I will just take apart EVERYTHING and check that all the cables match up. it all sounds good atm though. problem is my right tweeter is crackling a bit, so im not sure if its coz of the wiring or i just ran it to hard and screwed it up a bit. but when I have some time and I'm not exhausted from work I will go open up my car and get some photos.

dont forget Mr_Roberto's offer aswell - its always good to have a second pair of hands around :D

Crackling is more than likely a speaker going south. Though, it *can* be a loose connection.

Yeah take your time.

D/C your woofer from one of the xovers and make sure the tweeter is ok. Then hook the woofer up and make sure they work ok. Then do the other side.

I think they may be talking about re-wiring the lot and securing it down if you haven't done so.

Tweeters out of phase with woofer can actually help them sound better in some applications (remember they are not really playing the same Hz to worry abut cancellation ).

mate what area are you in?
might be able to lend a hand :D

located in Kelmscott. but i could always go for a drive. Ive got all of sat morning free up to about 1 or 2 at this stage.
will also chuck in a carton for ya.


Yeah take your time.

D/C your woofer from one of the xovers and make sure the tweeter is ok. Then hook the woofer up and make sure they work ok. Then do the other side.

I think they may be talking about re-wiring the lot and securing it down if you haven't done so.

Tweeters out of phase with woofer can actually help them sound better in some applications (remember they are not really playing the same Hz to worry abut cancellation ).

yeah i think they were planning on doing the whole thing again. I don't think it all needs rewiring though. probably just fixing it up checking it over and then tuning the system. my wiring's pretty messy :S

:hmm: well im in spearwood so im about 40mins away from you
although i'm not free till after the long weekend, maybe on the long weekend but i think im working that saturday or sunday, will know closer to that weekend

yeh i have no idea on my plans for the long weekend, don't plan that far away. will drink lots but that's all so far.

will see how we go.

so ive opened up the front and well to me it all looks fine. the only question i have is are the tweeter wires adequate??

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/evil-superman/DSC00007.jpg


also I am a bit confused on my amp.
its a soundstreem lw2.260 and its power my type s splits.

i tried taking a photo but couldn't get a clear picture so:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/evil-superman/Ampsoundstr02.jpg

my input level is about half. i set mode to hpf. but what do i do with high pass and low pass. atm high pass is set on 15hz and turned about half way and im assuming low pass doesn't get used.

Do you run a sub?

Not off that amp, just in general?

In eithercase - your HPF should be set to around 70Hz, possibly 60 if you really want to push the speakers a bit.

Wiring looks ok, aslong as the (-) is connected to the negative, etc.

As for the guage of the wires, thats probably about right - I dont think the Type S splits require too much power to get moving, especially not tweeters.

I know its a tricky one, but I have an Explosound media player I am trying to install in my magna I dont know if anyone had heard of the brand, but it has a dvd screen built into it, anyway, i have the diagram for the colours of the wires coming from the head unit, but the magnas wire colours are different and i cant figure out which one the power is.if anyone has a clue what im on about please let me know because its killin me drivin around with no sound. PS. I have looked for wire harnesses at a few shops, but none stock anything like magna to explosound harnesses, does anyone out there know where one can be found?? cheers a bunch : )

Do you run a sub?

Not off that amp, just in general?

In eithercase - your HPF should be set to around 70Hz, possibly 60 if you really want to push the speakers a bit.

Wiring looks ok, aslong as the (-) is connected to the negative, etc.

As for the guage of the wires, thats probably about right - I dont think the Type S splits require too much power to get moving, especially not tweeters.

yeh i do run a sub.
im just not sure how to set the high pass on this one. I've turned the mode to hpf but in the high pass section theres a switch to go between 15hz and 225hz then there's the control which can be turned from 225hz to 3.8khz. i dont understand it all. my other amp just has one thing that turns from 50hz to 500hz and ive got that on about 100hz for my subs.

I know its a tricky one, but I have an Explosound media player I am trying to install in my magna I dont know if anyone had heard of the brand, but it has a dvd screen built into it, anyway, i have the diagram for the colours of the wires coming from the head unit, but the magnas wire colours are different and i cant figure out which one the power is.if anyone has a clue what im on about please let me know because its killin me drivin around with no sound. PS. I have looked for wire harnesses at a few shops, but none stock anything like magna to explosound harnesses, does anyone out there know where one can be found?? cheers a bunch : )

You should be able to go into a local shop like autobarn and ask for a magna wire harness to suit your model and year, if they aren't sure which one will fit, just get them to ring up Aerpro, their supplier, and they can ask them. Once you get the harness you can just plug it into your factory harness. On the actual wires of the harness you have just plugged in, it will actually say what wire is which. For example it will say in writing on the wire if it is a 12v constant, 12v accessory, left rear positive speaker etc, which you can just match up to the wires on your head unit using the manual for your head unit. That is how I did it anyway and it all worked out. Easy to remove to if you ever want to go back to factory.

Hope this helps.

yeh i do run a sub.
im just not sure how to set the high pass on this one. I've turned the mode to hpf but in the high pass section theres a switch to go between 15hz and 225hz then there's the control which can be turned from 225hz to 3.8khz. i dont understand it all. my other amp just has one thing that turns from 50hz to 500hz and ive got that on about 100hz for my subs.

I downloaded the manual for your amp so i could take a better look and understand more what you were on about...

Keep the switch set at '15hz - 225hz' and adjust it to a point where you're filtering out bass that your midrange speakers will not produce, or not produce well (roughly 60-70hz).

The other setting (225hz - 3.8khz) would be used if you were powering higher frequency speakers (high mids/tweeters) straight off the amp.

But don't stress, using the first setting will supply you splits crossovers with all frequencies above whatever you set it at, then the crossover itself will distribute the signal to the mid and the tweeter accordingly.

Then, with the amp that is running your sub, set the LPF to a setting that will slightly overlap the 60-70hz (Usually 60-80hz LPF) so the entire music frequency spectrum is being covered by your sound system.

Make sense?