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[TUFFTR]
20-04-2009, 06:20 PM
Since Boozer got his KS touring wagon with the DOHC motor It's been my mission to make it look presentable!
So on the weekend him and myself got to work!
What we did
Stripped rocker cover and painted it JDM style
Stripped intake manifold and painted it hammer finish silver
Sandblasted and polished (by me lul) TB
3.5L DOHC Debonair Injector cover (very rare item) Modified to fit the 3L DOHC motor
Cleaned up intake...
All intake was thoroughly cleaned with TB cleaner and looks like new inside
Before..
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/DOHCBefore.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/IntakemanifoldBefore2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/IntakemanifoldBefore.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/OldTBvsNewTB.jpg

[TUFFTR]
20-04-2009, 06:22 PM
7 Hours later...After!
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/NewTB2.jpg
(Yes I polished the butterfly to a mirror shine :P)
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/NewTB.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/IntakemanifoldAfter.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/IntakemanifoldAfter2.jpg

[TUFFTR]
20-04-2009, 06:24 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/After-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/After.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/DOHC%20KS/After2.jpg

NOT BAD if you ask me!
And yes I am in desperate need of my car back to keep me busy:P for now this will be my little project...
Things to note***
Only 1 accel cable mount....Other mounting hole has been filled up...I have to take out all the gunk in there and tap a new thread
New oil cap will be on the cards...

Mr_Roberto
20-04-2009, 06:28 PM
good work mate, looks like a new engine now lol

Mohit
20-04-2009, 06:28 PM
Cool. So does Boozer still have his TL or is that gone?

[TUFFTR]
20-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Cool. So does Boozer still have his TL or is that gone?
Still has it :P

Boozer
20-04-2009, 06:34 PM
2 cars .... 1 driver...

Type40
20-04-2009, 07:07 PM
You did a good job Paulie...

What did Irvin do? Make coffee? :happy:

Boozer
20-04-2009, 07:10 PM
You did a good job Paulie...

What did Irvin do? Make coffee? :happy:

narh ate pancakes... that his sister cooked up

Type40
20-04-2009, 07:12 PM
narh ate pancakes... that his sister cooked up
Fat mess.... I hate you.

[TUFFTR]
20-04-2009, 07:18 PM
You did a good job Paulie...

What did Irvin do? Make coffee? :happy:
LOL
Irvin was a massive help.
But yeah nah his coffee was good :io: hehehe

Cruiser
20-04-2009, 07:21 PM
Nice job, wouldn't even know that was the same motor in there. The engine artist's masterpiece. (Is that a Sigma grille I see there?)

Think something similar could be done to a SOHC? lol

[TUFFTR]
20-04-2009, 07:26 PM
Nice job, wouldn't even know that was the same motor in there. The engine artist's masterpiece. (Is that a Sigma grille I see there?)

Think something similar could be done to a SOHC? lol
Correct! Sigma estate grille..
I have a VERY nice picture of a SOHC I'll send over to ya...but yeah same effort involved really...

fer0x
20-04-2009, 07:41 PM
nice work man, looks a hundred times better :)

parker
20-04-2009, 09:43 PM
I can only imagine boozer doing his good bye rituals at meets now.

Madmagna
23-04-2009, 08:15 PM
Good work lads, that old motor or KB's looks a million % better than when I looked at it last

[TUFFTR]
23-04-2009, 10:19 PM
Good work lads, that old motor or KB's looks a million % better than when I looked at it last
Yeah....Always shat me how dirty it was...I think if you find the pic of KB's car on Fastmagna when he originally did the conversion it looked how it did 3 years later...

We still have a bit of an idle fluctuating problem happening which is strange. While in N will rev up to 2200RPM sometimes, then randomly drop down to 800RPM and stay there. Don't think it's a vacuum leak as that would fluctuate up and down constantly but this is random.

So eh now gotta sort that out.....clean up bits and pieces along the way and yeah it'll look good once done!

Boozer
23-04-2009, 10:51 PM
']Yeah....Always shat me how dirty it was...I think if you find the pic of KB's car on Fastmagna when he originally did the conversion it looked how it did 3 years later...

We still have a bit of an idle fluctuating problem happening which is strange. While in N will rev up to 2200RPM sometimes, then randomly drop down to 800RPM and stay there. Don't think it's a vacuum leak as that would fluctuate up and down constantly but this is random.

So eh now gotta sort that out.....clean up bits and pieces along the way and yeah it'll look good once done!

LONG.... way to go before she is right.... its revs to about 1500rpm now... adjusted the idle but still same symtoms... maybe ISC may be playing up but only happened after we took the plenum apart and cleaned up everything... will have to hunt down an ISC motor for the car.... ohh hang on.......................


p.s thanks for the compliments Mal

paulie.... the ISC motor may not be the right one for the throttle body as the throttle body you gave me came off a 2nd gen... the ISC motors in 2nd gens are off diffrent part number to mine... might be onto something we have to try and get my original throttle body back on...to see if my theory is right... coz i know the 3rd gen isc motors do not fit as the tip of is different.

[TUFFTR]
24-04-2009, 05:49 AM
LONG.... way to go before she is right.... its revs to about 1500rpm now... adjusted the idle but still same symtoms... maybe ISC may be playing up but only happened after we took the plenum apart and cleaned up everything... will have to hunt down an ISC motor for the car.... ohh hang on.......................


p.s thanks for the compliments Mal

paulie.... the ISC motor may not be the right one for the throttle body as the throttle body you gave me came off a 2nd gen... the ISC motors in 2nd gens are off diffrent part number to mine... might be onto something we have to try and get my original throttle body back on...to see if my theory is right... coz i know the 3rd gen isc motors do not fit as the tip of is different.
Your ISC From the original TB is fine Put that one back in man....

MGNTZM
24-04-2009, 08:16 AM
Massive difference!

Going to keep the cleaning job going?

BiG 4 CyL
24-04-2009, 10:10 AM
LONG.... way to go before she is right.... its revs to about 1500rpm now... adjusted the idle but still same symtoms... maybe ISC may be playing up but only happened after we took the plenum apart and cleaned up everything... will have to hunt down an ISC motor for the car.... ohh hang on.......................


p.s thanks for the compliments Mal

paulie.... the ISC motor may not be the right one for the throttle body as the throttle body you gave me came off a 2nd gen... the ISC motors in 2nd gens are off diffrent part number to mine... might be onto something we have to try and get my original throttle body back on...to see if my theory is right... coz i know the 3rd gen isc motors do not fit as the tip of is different.

yeah sounds like your on the mark with the ISC, i had the exact same symptoms til i replaced mine.
sometimes she wouldnt idle at all, she'd stall straight away, other times she'd sit at anything up to 2500rpm..

DOHC looks tops !

Boozer
29-04-2009, 04:52 PM
idle still hasn't been fixed but may have fixed the VICs issue, the butterfly may not be opening at about 3000rpm, we found a loose wire connection at to VICs motor last night, fixed the connection, seems like its going hard at the top end now :)

[TUFFTR]
29-04-2009, 05:02 PM
Mmmmm anyone know what could cause this WEIRD idle issue?
Its a another TB but the same thing, same ISC motor, same manifold, just all clean, except sometimes in N it will rev up to 2000-2300RPM and stay there randomly, then drop back down to 800 :S never did this before we cleaned it though? anyone got an idea?

Boozer
29-04-2009, 05:24 PM
;1035932']Mmmmm anyone know what could cause this WEIRD idle issue?
Its a another TB but the same thing, same ISC motor, same manifold, just all clean, except sometimes in N it will rev up to 2000-2300RPM and stay there randomly, then drop back down to 800 :S never did this before we cleaned it though? anyone got an idea?


correction it appears to be the same throttle body that came from a 2nd gen....same ISC motor for the DOHC motor, manifold is very similar to that of a 2nd gen (the back section of it) but upon closer look, there are very slight differences like the VICs motor from 2nd gen is not interchangable with my plenum.

[TUFFTR]
29-04-2009, 05:33 PM
correction it appears to be the same throttle body that came from a 2nd gen....same ISC motor for the DOHC motor, manifold is very similar to that of a 2nd gen (the back section of it) but upon closer look, there are very slight differences like the VICs motor from 2nd gen is not interchangable with my plenum.

Yes but we physically used ANOTHER TB on the car:P and yeah I didn't mention anything about changing of the intake manifold:P
As in we used ANOTHER TB.....butttt the same ISC that came off the car when you drove in.

dimi108
29-04-2009, 06:51 PM
Nice work Paul you bored kent.
I wouldn't mind a DOHC Verada Wagon.

Have you got any pictures of the whole car?

[TUFFTR]
29-04-2009, 06:57 PM
Nice work Paul you bored kent.
I wouldn't mind a DOHC Verada Wagon.

Have you got any pictures of the whole car?

hahahahaha well gotta do something to help a dohc brother out :P
Nah none yet, I'll talk Boozer into WASHING IT for some photos on the w/e:P

Boozer
29-04-2009, 06:58 PM
Nice work Paul you bored kent.
I wouldn't mind a DOHC Verada Wagon.

Have you got any pictures of the whole car?


swap??? :P

tuffy will kill me :)

Boozer
04-05-2009, 07:53 PM
idle fixed....... TPS plug may have been a bit loose....

dimi108
05-05-2009, 09:30 PM
Come on, post some photos of your car :P

Dave
05-05-2009, 09:48 PM
nice work gents!

CASS-VRXTJ
06-05-2009, 07:38 AM
wow... neat job guys.. ur so talented

[TUFFTR]
06-05-2009, 06:36 PM
Anyone who can wave a can of paint in the air can do this :P

Boozer
06-05-2009, 06:39 PM
;1040057']Anyone who can wave a can of paint in the air can do this :P

apparently some can do it better than others :)

Lugo
18-05-2009, 04:58 PM
Is this a standard cleaning service that comes with all DOHC powered 2nd gens? Good value for money, buy a DOHC car and get a free engine bay detail haha

Does look smick, and goes like stink for a 2nd gen! Could hear you roaring down behind the other night even with the stereo up cruising at 100km/h lol

Boozer
14-06-2009, 07:50 PM
ok guys spot the difference.... after much head scratching we have worked out how to make the tacho cluster work for the DOHC... and making the god damm thing spin to 7500rpm rev limiter!


http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu327/EVLVRX/06062009066.jpg

dimi108
14-06-2009, 08:02 PM
Cool 9000rpm tacho. Good to see you finally got it to work.

However, in true DOHC style, the speedo should be 240km/h ;)

[TUFFTR]
14-06-2009, 08:08 PM
Cool 9000rpm tacho. Good to see you finally got it to work.

However, in true DOHC style, the speedo should be 240km/h ;)


Well, I'm thinking, since it's being driven by the same gear, wouldn't it still be reading 220KM/H @ 240KM/H?

KB RIPPED the tacho wire out from the PTU and put in some Diodes which i now need to get rid of. I would of thought buying one of these clusters would of been easier then wiring in diodes.
I suspect the ECU would of had a signal drop at 4K RPM just like this tacho as the ECU and tacho share the same tacho signal.

In short;
To anyone doing the DOHC Conversion, you NEED the Diamante 9000RPM cluster. The electronics inside the tacho head itself are different.

Boozer
14-06-2009, 08:08 PM
Cool 9000rpm tacho. Good to see you finally got it to work.

However, in true DOHC style, the speedo should be 240km/h ;)

remember this is the OZ spec speedo... i got a US spec cluster (mph and kph) on my floor and i got a european one (kph) that goes to 240kph.. its on its way :)

Boozer
14-06-2009, 08:10 PM
;1063229']
In short;
To anyone doing the DOHC Conversion, you NEED the Diamante 9000RPM cluster. The electronics inside the tacho head itself are different.


or you can ask me about making a 9000rpm cluster :) got a few tacho heads now :D

[TUFFTR]
14-06-2009, 08:13 PM
or you can ask me about making a 9000rpm cluster :) got a few tacho heads now :D

lol start production...
Find me a 240km/h cluster now:P

Boozer
14-06-2009, 08:16 PM
;1063238']lol start production...
Find me a 240km/h cluster now:P

there are a few in germany....keep your eyes peeled... there is one there but its pricey... theres the odd cheap ones

[TUFFTR]
04-07-2009, 09:22 PM
problem we are trying to nut out.
car revs at 1500RPM in N....
this only happened after we cleaned up the manifold and whatknot. used the same ISC and same TPS.
we changed TB's with one off the KS (which had perfect idle) and it actually went up to 2000RPM! Both times with the idle screw screwed right in.

normal driving though is perfect, and used to idle FINE before we cleaned the intake setup up.
if you disconnect ISC it doesnt make a difference too.
any possible causes to check out (besides rebuilding a TB which we might do)

outta idea!

Nemesis
04-07-2009, 09:33 PM
I had a similar problem when my car was stalling repeatedly remember. Even our testing for diagnosis was the same - cleaned TB, adjusted idle screw with no result, replaced ISC but when the TPS was changed the idle issue was sorted. See if you can get a changeover one.

[TUFFTR]
05-07-2009, 07:38 AM
I had a similar problem when my car was stalling repeatedly remember. Even our testing for diagnosis was the same - cleaned TB, adjusted idle screw with no result, replaced ISC but when the TPS was changed the idle issue was sorted. See if you can get a changeover one.

Well, also forgot to add this

His car one day a week or so ago started to missfire....after alot of searching around for what it could be....he found the isc plug off....reconnected it, all sweet.

now when you remove the isc plug it makes no difference at all weather its plugged in or not with 2 diff ISC's but may of had 2 dud ISC's

cause this is only an idle issue too.
hmmm

Boozer
05-07-2009, 08:19 AM
idles at 1500rpm up to 1/4 of the temp gauge, then settles down, never used to. The ks throttle body sits at 2000rpm even when the motor was warm

86_Elite
05-07-2009, 09:35 AM
Weird.... man I so wanted this car :P had shipping prices for transport to WA too ahah, good to see your fixing her up though, some new pics would be nice? :)

Deanimus
05-07-2009, 10:22 AM
how much did you pay for it? Looks great.. Also I have painted my plenum but wana know hoe to paint the black in behind the writing..,

Boozer
05-07-2009, 10:43 AM
how much did you pay for it? Looks great.. Also I have painted my plenum but wana know hoe to paint the black in behind the writing..,

1. Remove rocker cover
2. Degrease oil and remove old paint.
3. Spray rocker cover with paint of your choice according to product instruction.
4. Let paint dry
5. Use medium to fine sand paper and sanding block and sand over the words.

You know the rest.

I got it cheap and spent another 1500 to get it road worthy (4 tyres, new windscreen, new front wheel bearings, retrimmed the roof lineing, new front brake pads). There is still work i got to do with the paint and stuff, got typical 2nd gen paint quality.

MGNTZM
05-07-2009, 05:32 PM
"got typical 2nd gen paint quality. "
AKA None left :P
Gah gotta hate Misti paint they used on 2nd gens,

Boozer
05-07-2009, 05:33 PM
"got typical 2nd gen paint quality. "
AKA None left :P
Gah gotta hate Misti paint they used on 2nd gens,

there is some..... its just the panels that face the sun... :P

Nemesis
05-07-2009, 07:24 PM
;1075910']Well, also forgot to add this

His car one day a week or so ago started to missfire....after alot of searching around for what it could be....he found the isc plug off....reconnected it, all sweet.

now when you remove the isc plug it makes no difference at all weather its plugged in or not with 2 diff ISC's but may of had 2 dud ISC's

cause this is only an idle issue too.
hmmm

http://www.nardek.com.au/testisc510-10.htm

Time to whip out the multimeter and test em mate!