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hardyards
11-05-2009, 10:09 PM
Hi everyone,

Just planning the audio install in my TS magna and was wondering if any one had pictures of false floor setups in their boot that they wouldn't mind sharing. I was simply going to make a sub frame from timber and liquid nail it to the boot floor for a flat surface to mount the MDF floor on, but if anyone has done similar some pictures and tips would be awesome.

cheers guys and gals

Uncle Andy
12-05-2009, 06:15 AM
Howdy all;
This is my boot install. Its a false wall, not a false floor and its pretty simple to make
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55603
It took around 3 days total including all the construction and covering and mounting
Hope it helps
Cheers
Uncle Andy

hardyards
12-05-2009, 06:43 AM
Howdy all;
This is my boot install. Its a false wall, not a false floor and its pretty simple to make
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55603
It took around 3 days total including all the construction and covering and mounting
Hope it helps
Cheers
Uncle Andy

sub box looks the goods mate, is the spare still easily accessible with it in? i have been playing with some layouts and turns out the magna boot isnt as big as it looks (either that or my amps are too big:nuts:)

Ers
12-05-2009, 06:47 AM
The magna boot is rather large.

Just has a few problems to overcome (mainly parcel shelf varying height, boot hinges etc).

[TUFFTR]
12-05-2009, 07:02 AM
2nd gen boot isn't actually that large compared to others..

yann89
12-05-2009, 07:21 AM
gday mate, this is my install with false floor.

I have 100% full access to my spare, my safety triangle, my tool set, my jack and wheel brace and my jumper cables. Whilst I was builing I also left a space provisional for my fire extinguisher when it comes.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd309/yann89_photo/P3120593.jpg

fer0x
12-05-2009, 07:43 AM
when you guys are mounting in your subs, do you actually work out how big you need to make the box for it you're making or just stick it in there and hope it sounds good?
i want to take mine out of its box and put it in something like uncle andy's, but wouldn't know how to work it all out?

yann89
12-05-2009, 07:49 AM
when you guys are mounting in your subs, do you actually work out how big you need to make the box for it you're making or just stick it in there and hope it sounds good?
i want to take mine out of its box and put it in something like uncle andy's, but wouldn't know how to work it all out?

there's a sub box caclulator on the net somewhere.

For me I had a box, I had two subs and said 'ahh stuff it'. they sound good. Now my boot is my box:)

[TUFFTR]
12-05-2009, 07:51 AM
when you guys are mounting in your subs, do you actually work out how big you need to make the box for it you're making or just stick it in there and hope it sounds good?
i want to take mine out of its box and put it in something like uncle andy's, but wouldn't know how to work it all out?

You take measurements of what area you have to work with and find out what literage that gives you and work from there.

Cant remember the forumal for working out the literage I think its h x w x d but yeah havent done this in a while

you never "hope" when doing a sub box...

Ers
12-05-2009, 08:10 AM
Tuffy I do things anotherway (well, except for the current install).

First, use a decent sub box volume calculator (need specs on the subs though). Once you have the volume you need, you build a box to suit (in shape) to your boot space.

That said, with the amount of prefab boxes going around and people sticking whatever subs in whatever boxes - all in all, for entry level the rough rule of thumb is 1cuft is sufficient for a sealed 12" box per sub.

To calculate volume TUFFTR was pretty much on the ball.

For a rectantle sub, take height (cm) multiply it by the width (cm) multiply it by the length (cm) then divide by 1000 (1000lt per cubic metre)

Eg:

height: 40cm
width: 38cm
length: 65cm

= 40 x 38 x 65
= 98800 / 1000
= 98.8lt

86_Elite
12-05-2009, 09:27 AM
I think this is what you are after:

http://www.fastmagna.com/gallery/Features/Ultimate-TR/h7.jpg.html

Ultimate 2nd gen boot....

not much good for the groceries though

[TUFFTR]
12-05-2009, 09:29 AM
Link fails mate

86_Elite
12-05-2009, 09:31 AM
Check your URL Tuffy, ive clicked on the link and it works fine for me.... Didnt we have this discussion last night:P

Ers
12-05-2009, 09:32 AM
I think this is what you are after:

http://www.fastmagna.com/gallery/Features/Ultimate-TR/h7.jpg.html

Ultimate 2nd gen boot....

not much good for the groceries though


Holy crap I remember that Magna!!!

Thanks for the link, havnt seen it for a decade!

[TUFFTR]
12-05-2009, 09:33 AM
Check your URL Tuffy, ive clicked on the link and it works fine for me.... Didnt we have this discussion last night:P

wtf, works now.
His magna was on the show "money" hosted by Paul clitharoe probs 11 years ago. They did a whole segment on it which was pretty cool.
To me that's nice but completly defeats the purpose of a boot

86_Elite
12-05-2009, 09:35 AM
Don't know about you but I dont use my boot for much besides cramming stereo stuff in it, don't intend to put the shopping in it :P It wouldnt survive the ride back

Ers
12-05-2009, 09:37 AM
;1043336']wtf, works now.
His magna was on the show "money" hosted by Paul clitharoe probs 11 years ago. They did a whole segment on it which was pretty cool.
To me that's nice but completly defeats the purpose of a boot

Yup, one of the more memorable cars.

He spent around 80K on that car, and that was 11 years ago lol Guy was an IT guru so had cash to burn.

Boot is for something other than audio installs? :kb:

[TUFFTR]
12-05-2009, 09:38 AM
Hell yeah parts from the wreckers dont touch my leather seats, have to go somewhere.
$80K?!?!??! you sure?!?!?! Its still a 4cyl auto!?!?!
Wow makes me feel alot better about mine. sort of. $80K stuff that

Ers
12-05-2009, 09:40 AM
Remember he bought that car brand new (IIRC).

None of the work was done by himself.

All the gear was alpine (hell his H/U back in the day would have been worth $2K)....

Car was repainted, custom body kit, custom interior (and damn well done too...) so yeah, 80K can go by in a flash like that :)

86_Elite
12-05-2009, 09:42 AM
hell yeah woulda been better with mine or tuffy's engine in it tho:P

[TUFFTR]
12-05-2009, 09:43 AM
Remember he bought that car brand new (IIRC).

None of the work was done by himself.

All the gear was alpine (hell his H/U back in the day would have been worth $2K)....

Car was repainted, custom body kit, custom interior (and damn well done too...) so yeah, 80K can go by in a flash like that :)

That car ended up getting crushed:(

86_Elite
12-05-2009, 09:53 AM
What? Why?

[TUFFTR]
12-05-2009, 09:54 AM
Not sure, he's on Mobile Electronics Australia can't remember his username but he's pretty big on there, but yeah, got crushed, why or how NFI.

cuzman
12-05-2009, 04:46 PM
Hi everyone,

Just planning the audio install in my TS magna and was wondering if any one had pictures of false floor setups in their boot that they wouldn't mind sharing. I was simply going to make a sub frame from timber and liquid nail it to the boot floor for a flat surface to mount the MDF floor on, but if anyone has done similar some pictures and tips would be awesome.

cheers guys and gals

Well never to much info about this as there are many ways to go!

My last car i used mild pine slats trimmed to the floor shape and drilled into the floor and used that as a base. (not so good ideal)
Hard as nails glue sounds good as it has flex and will bond well without making holes in the car.

just a thought!

im sure there are better ways.

Ers
12-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Yep, I personally wouldnt touch a car with liquid nails.

Liquid nails just dont belong in a car IMO.

Stainless steel bolts with nylon nuts work well.

I use 1/4" bolts.

yann89
12-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Umm, okay I did it differently to you guys. my stuff isnt bolted down at all. The braces under my floor arent bolted to the floor, they're nailed to the boot floor itself and placed inside the boot. I dont see why you'd need to drill your boot? my install is 100% non-destructive

Ers
12-05-2009, 05:11 PM
Yann.....

Ah....struggling to understand what you mean?

'The braces under my floor arnt bolted to the floor, they're nailed to the boot floor itself and placed in the boot'

What do you mean?

That your false floor is sitting on braces that its nailed to? Those braces then arnt secured to anything?

The reason why I secure my systems, well, a) its the right way of doing things b) its safe c) my stereo is worth too much to risk damage from not bolting it down.

Each to their own.

hardyards
12-05-2009, 05:14 PM
Cheers for the help guys. has anyone used liquid nails in this manner? as i thought that was quite a common way of doing it. I dont really want to drill into the car.

I plan on retaining plenty of the boot for everyday use. Not sure on the sub yet, thinking along the lines of a peerless XXLS 12 in the right hand corner behind the tail lights. And will be modelling the t/s specs to make a correct sized sealed box.

Does any one have pictures of a subfram type structure? I will work it out no worries but a little guidance never goes a stray.

Also what length RCAs will reach the boot? I had 5 metres in there previously and the extra loose cables floating around really annoyed me, i was hoping some 3.7 metre stingers would be perfect.

yann89
12-05-2009, 05:14 PM
Yann.....

Ah....struggling to understand what you mean?

'The braces under my floor arnt bolted to the floor, they're nailed to the boot floor itself and placed in the boot'

What do you mean?

That your false floor is sitting on braces that its nailed to? Those braces then arnt secured to anything?

The reason why I secure my systems, well, a) its the right way of doing things b) its safe c) my stereo is worth too much to risk damage from not bolting it down.

Each to their own.

Okay, I nailed the braces to the MDF false floor which sit on the boot floor. it fits in VERY tightly once the sub box is pushed in. The walls are also very tight.

Everything pushes down on the floor. you bring up a valid point about things moving, I can assure you 100% that nothings moved a centimeter since I put it in.

Ers
12-05-2009, 05:44 PM
As I said each to their own, if it doesnt move, and you're happy - then thats what counts in the end.

My dads an aeronautical engineer, I'd get a crack across the back of the head if I didnt have things bolted down lol so yes mine might be overkill, however thats how the stereo is I guess.

Hardyards - yes liquid nails is common practice to save people drilling into their car. While its common practice I would never do it, I'd rather weld nuts to the floor and bolt to those lol thats just the way I do things.

cuzman
12-05-2009, 05:47 PM
Okay, I nailed the braces to the MDF false floor which sit on the boot floor. it fits in VERY tightly once the sub box is pushed in. The walls are also very tight.

Everything pushes down on the floor

. you bring up a valid point about things moving, I can assure you 100% that nothings moved a centimeter since I put it in.

nice job and im sure that is fine.

Hard as nails (the glue) is great stuff and can be removed if needed.

the bottom line is none of our installs are legal!!!!!!!!

What the! any way lets go with the flow ...lol