I'm thinking of getting rid of my spare tyre,[apart from long trips] does anyone have experiences with or knowledge of suitable quality products should i get a puncture? This is a weight thing so the lighter the better.....i'm aware of the legal side so no comments required there! Cheers.

Go supercheap/autobarn/bursons for a tyre seal up in a can type product, they are filled with some sort of foam which when you get a flat you inject into the tyre which is supposed to seal enough for you to get to a tyre joint to replace the tyre...

Tyre Plugs are also pretty good to have handy.

http://www.alpharubicon.com/bovstuff/tirepluguzi.htm

http://www.alpharubicon.com/bovstuff/images/tirepluguzi001.jpg

i bought a product from mitre 10 that has a green type of gue stuff and comes with a 12 volt comp in a nice small bag, about $50 bucks. Not sure of the quality but it only needs to work once. i went this way over the spray can stuff as i cant see how it would inflate a tire to decent pressure but never had to use ether off them.

all the best.

i've used tyre plugs similar to the above post but made of black rubber, the two times i've used them it has worked fine, saves you $30 for a puncture repair at the mechanics (So long as its just running over a screw or something).
I would use that. I bought a pack of 3 for $24.95 a couple of years back, i believe you can buy just replacement plugs (without the needle and gear) for $5-10 too.

Had a mate who took out the spare in a sprite for more space. Put in a can of tyre inflator and thought that would do. Then he had a blow out and destroyed the tyre so the puncture in a can would not fix that. No spare no go so had to sit around for a couple of hours before anyone could come and help. They dont weigh that much just keep it there.

thanks for the tips fella's,.....MrBagged TE, beaut, did'nt know about those plug kits.

If it's for weight or space - maybe consider what cuzman posted here... (spacesaver rim/tyre)
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67565

i can tell you from very recent experience that its not a very good idea, you never know when you might need it, i sure as hell didnt
read that if u dont believe me
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67475

Well just as a note your all right! full stop... check out this thread by me..might help a bit depending on what state your in?

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67565

cheers!

i'll check out the weight differences,space-saver v's spare...probably best option!

Might want to remove your spoiler and rear weathershield while your at it.

Or are they aerodynamics to hold the car down at 260km/h?

MrMitsi - the spoiler from factory creates lift IIRC lol

dude your guna be saving 20kg's removing your spare.. what u trying to achieve by doing this????

make sure you NEVER fill up over 1/4 full aswell hey.. that extra 3/4 of a tank is slowing you down aswell :wtf:

20 sounds good to me!

make sure you NEVER fill up over 1/4 full aswell hey.. that extra 3/4 of a tank is slowing you down aswell :wtf:

Good point ! what does 40 liters of petrol weigh! That and the spare will be equal to another person sitting in your car....

Good point ! what does 40 liters of petrol weigh! That and the spare will be equal to another person sitting in your car....

tbh 3/4 of a tank is usually my limit...:eeek:

Hang on.... if this is an AWD wouldn't a space saver be a bad idea?

Hang on.... if this is an AWD wouldn't a space saver be a bad idea?

why? i was thinking Nissan r33.

why? i was thinking Nissan r33.

Not sure, but if the rolling diameter is different isn't it going to place stress on the dif with one shaft spinning constantly at a different speed?

Petrol weighs in around 740-750g per litre, So 40 Litres is 30Kg, LPG for trivia is 500g per litre,

Good weight savers = ditch your electric seat,

Never fill the washer bottle :eeek: and always go to the tiolet before you drive :woot:

BTW, I beleive, here in qld at least, those glue and go kits are illegal too, our puncture repair plugs must have a raised head inside the tyre.

either way we are talking about the heaviest a lowest magna known to man, the awd magna

removing ur spare wheel will not only make your reliable car a joke it will do nothing for your fat cow of a car's performace

leave your spare wheel in and go buy a pod filter

if you want to spam COUGH somewhere else!

you can't help it.

either way we are talking about the heaviest a lowest magna known to man, the awd magna

removing ur spare wheel will not only make your reliable car a joke it will do nothing for your fat cow of a car's performace

leave your spare wheel in and go buy a pod filter


LOL!


Are those tyre puncture kits a quick fix sort of thing?

i think you've been talking to too many ecu's...

What people do to their own car is their business.....

Hell I put 50kg of stereo gear in mine *shrugs shoulders*

If you want to remove your spare wheel, go for your life. However, the difference in performance will be so marginal that no amount of testing could find the difference.

If you say somehow managed to shave 100kg of weight, you would feel a difference - not much, but you would.

Fact is, Magna's are big, heavy, FWD cars - about as performance oriented as a shopping trolley*

*oh before the 'flames' start. Yes some people do go to track days with Magna's and do quite well, props to them. Some people actually race their Magna (cummins) and props to him.

if you lot don't want to answer my original questions then don't post here.

There are two things to consider with this spare tyre issue, the first is, we carry the spare as insurance, if you encounter a flat on the road, you have a backup replacement at hand and off you go again. In the 30+ years of driving in the many cars I have owned/driven, I have never had to change a flat by the side of the road. But I have had numerous punctures. Its a case of identifying them early and always being aware of tyre pressures. In every case it has always been a nail/screw. Knowing Murphys' Law, the first day you go without a spare, and there's a good chance you will get a flat.

The second issue is one of weight reduction. In the grand scheme of things where you start looking at many options of weight reduction, then every bit adds up. And in this case OPs concern is reducing weight by removing the spare, but replacing it with a lighter substitute or ability to handle the situation where you can "limp" back home. I don't think that's unreasonable.

GTVi - if its part of a greater overall weight reduction quest, then cool.

Personally there would be more gain from removing every bit of sound deadening in the car. Removing electrics and stripping the wiring, getting light weight magnesium wheels (which, are pretty useless on anything other than a racetrack).

Getting a smaller fuel tank (in boot fuel cell for instance).

However at which point does the car stop being a driveable car?

However at which point does the car stop being a driveable car?

When the Petrol price goes up... lol

Get a grip Gremlin the spare has'nt left the boot yet....tbh your 22inch wheels on your Magna theory takes the cake!

well i guess that confirms my thoughts of your attention seeking....now if you could just seek some medical advice,perhaps a distemper shot?
it must be fun thinking you're an authority on all subjects...your replies are becoming more childish and embarrasing....for the third time, get out of this thread!

just my 2c here. (i havnt read through other posts, so it may have been said)
the sealant cans, are your emergancy use only, they will upset your wheel balance, and the tyre needs to come off the rim to be properley fixed, (this will cost you more money than a simple puncture repair)

the DIY plugs i believe are no longer ment to be used, (correct me if im wrong), i have used them for years, with no problems.
i only use these kits when i manage to get home, on my spare, to fix my original. you will need a air compressor, that is capable of inflating tyres.

your spare wheel in its well, adds strength, to your cars rear end, ill post up some pics of the wheel well off my doner car, which had a truck run up its back, and of my car, which got a 4x4 up its back.
plus its not allways a simple puncture that you may run into, perhaps a damaged sidewall, or damaged rim, if you dont have a spare, the canned cra*p isnt going to save you

yeah sure you are reducing weight to your car, but i would only remove my spare, when and if i go to the drags.
as thats proberley the only time you will ever spot the difference.
if your trying to save weight, better advice would be to drive around town, with only 1/3 of a tank of fuel, that will save more weight. my car feels quicker, when allmost at E then when at F,
but then if you corner hard, you can get fuel starvation issues, when on throttle mid corner, hence why the ralliart has baffels in the tank (i think)

What people do to their own car is their business.....

Hell I put 50kg of stereo gear in mine *shrugs shoulders*

If you want to remove your spare wheel, go for your life. However, the difference in performance will be so marginal that no amount of testing could find the difference.

If you say somehow managed to shave 100kg of weight, you would feel a difference - not much, but you would.

Fact is, Magna's are big, heavy, FWD cars - about as performance oriented as a shopping trolley*

*oh before the 'flames' start. Yes some people do go to track days with Magna's and do quite well, props to them. Some people actually race their Magna (cummins) and props to him.

Well said!

Any way back on track im sure the r33 or what ever should be fine. Seen some on eBay international.

As far as the 4wd goes i'd be asking q's about size of tire as depending on the 4wd setup it may or may not matter if you only travel a short distance on the space saver.

good luck.

ok thanks Lowrider!

Hey zero!

whats you tire size or at least top to bottom measurements.

Check out my other thread as previously posted for update , they also had a space saver about 2 centimeters higher. not sure what is was off but i can find out for you.

Thanks fella!