Hi all, to my knowledge, all automatic Magnas have the gear position indicator in the instrument cluster.

In particular, all the 3rd gen autos that I've seen have the P-R-N-D-3-2-L indicator between the speedo and tacho, in a vertical arrangement.

However, the tiptronic ones have P-R-N-D printed vertically down one line, and the 4-3-2-1 (or 5-4-3-2-1 in the case of upper/sports models) printed lower, off to the side.

However, my random E-Bay trawls have revealed this 2002 TJ which has the instrument cluster gear display arranged like a tiptronic, but instead of 4-3-2-1, it says 3-2-L. (Click on the pic showing its instrument cluster)

Has anyone seen one of these before? I certainly haven't!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MAGNA-TJ-3-02-SERIES-2-LS-COMM-WEALTH-GAMES-LTD-DAMAGED_W0QQitemZ250427396478QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU _Cars?hash=item250427396478&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7 C301%3A1%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

mines like that,, TJ my02 exec

Ah, I see

So maybe the later TJ's had this.

I've only ever seen the TE-TH display, which is straight down, and the TJ2 onwards tiptronic-style display

See......learn something every day......thank you

That is a TJ1 with partial TJ2 functionality. TJ1 equipment (standard 4sp auto) was used in TJ1.5 magnas to use up old stock i believe.

My dads tjII exec has the PRND - 4321. My 2c worth

My wifes KF, PRND32L in a straight line. Another 2c

We have a TJ 1.5 with that in it. Its a Non-Tippy Advance but has the climate/alloys and body colouring. My thoughts are that with the addition of the trip computer in the cluster, they changed it to this arrangement for the non-tippy early cars.