i got em yesterday but couldnt get pics up so didnt bother throwin up the post but now i have some so here let me no what you think

ther clarion platnum series
6x8 " splits and 6x9" splits im happy with them, i cant wait to get them in

You've already bought them. It doesn't matter what we think now.

well were do you think i should mount the tweeters? i was sort of thinking flush mount on A or B pillar.

A pillar, I don't think anyone's done it on the b-pillar because that's just allllll wrong. I've got mine up underneath the windscreen, not recommended, too harsh.

i was only thinking b pillar coz ive never seen it done. a pillar seems a good idea tho, a bit easyer too.

The tweeter would be too close to your right ear. And there'd be the headrest blocking the left tweeter. It'd be annoying to have all that volume hammering your right ear drum all the time.

How about getting the Verada type tweeter covers that clip to front corner of doors - the triangular ("delta") panel. Mount your tweets in these, gives a fairly "stealth" install (not easily seen from outside car, doesn't look "ooh-expensive-must-steal-that"). These are $20- or so for each panel as brand-new spares - part numbers are in the Parts List Thread. Or you may score some at wreckers who have a 3rd gen Verada in the yard.

Otherwise, have seen tweeters mounted flush into door trims towards front/top of the door - this also looked good (and some members thought may have been better audio in that spot). A search of "tweeter" "delta" "sails" "splits" in 3rd Gen or Audio forum would probably bring up the threads where these installs were featured.

Am willing to bet you'll be happy with these when they are fitted and pumping!!

There is a reason our ears are shaped and directed a certain way.

The human ear has the best audible definition when the sound is coming from in front of us.

Certain frequencies are perceived as directional (we can hear where its coming from) and non-directional (can't identify where the sound is coming from).

High frequencies as those delivered by tweeters are super directional, and it pays to have tweeters mounted in front of you, almost at ear level (A pillar/door sail area). Midrange is somewhat directional, and can therefore be lower down in your doors without losing too much audio quality because the tweeters mounted higher 'lift the soundstage'.

Bass is non-directional - meaning a well tuned system subwoofer system will not sound like its 'coming from your boot', but will blend with your mid and high range speakers to reproduce the full sound frequency.



So, in summation - Do NOT mount your tweeters on the B pillar please! :thumbsup:

i found i got better width and depth from mounting the tweeters in the kick panels pointing at the drivers head. the stage height didnt change from having them at the base of a pillar

thanks heaps guys, i think i will go with the verada corner cover... just hoping i can get my hands on a pair. that way it will look standard and no bastard is gonna break in and pinch em. i still have to find spots for 2 more tweeters tho coz i have 6x9 splits, i can mount them in the speaker itself but wasnt sure if that would be a good or bad thing. i was thinking maybe in the c pillar somewhere or they come with little mounts so maybe even the p****l shelf but then it will be blasting into the ears of who ever is in the back seat. so if you have any suggestions please please let me no

thanks guys for all the help

thanks heaps guys, i think i will go with the verada corner cover... just hoping i can get my hands on a pair. that way it will look standard and no bastard is gonna break in and pinch em. i still have to find spots for 2 more tweeters tho coz i have 6x9 splits, i can mount them in the speaker itself but wasnt sure if that would be a good or bad thing. i was thinking maybe in the c pillar somewhere or they come with little mounts so maybe even the p****l shelf but then it will be blasting into the ears of who ever is in the back seat. so if you have any suggestions please please let me no

thanks guys for all the help

Speakers on the parcel shelf are already at head level, so there isn't really a huge need to mount separate tweeters. Also, cause they're coming from behind you, placing them in a separate place on the parcel shelf would have minimal effect.

IMHO, I think keep them mounted on the speaker itself.

But ultimately, experiment with placement and see what suits YOUR ear. :thumbsup:

i was just out in my car trying to find a spot, i was thinking maybe in the middle brake light on the p****l shelf, but i think ill just mount them in the 6x9, ill figure out somewhere else later. i have another question, just to clarify lol i dont want to screw brand new speakers, so the power cable goes from the battery to the splitter/ distrobution box then 1 power cable to 1 amp then the other 1 to the other amp then loop the remote wire and ground both amps and run 2 sets of rca's, can i put both the positive wires from the cross over into 1 channel on the amp (4channel) its just i was thinking there is going to be 8 wires.... 4+ and 4- and i only have a 4 channel amp so ill have to double up the wires correct????

i was just out in my car trying to find a spot, i was thinking maybe in the middle brake light on the p****l shelf, but i think ill just mount them in the 6x9, ill figure out somewhere else later. i have another question, just to clarify lol i dont want to screw brand new speakers, so the power cable goes from the battery to the splitter/ distrobution box then 1 power cable to 1 amp then the other 1 to the other amp then loop the remote wire and ground both amps and run 2 sets of rca's, can i put both the positive wires from the cross over into 1 channel on the amp (4channel) its just i was thinking there is going to be 8 wires.... 4+ and 4- and i only have a 4 channel amp so ill have to double up the wires correct????

umm.... What?




So do you have one or two amps?

If you are running your 4 speakers from a 4 channel amp, then there is no reason to be doubling up the wires?!

Each channel will run one speaker (FL, FR, RL, RR).

Each RCA has a single right and left channel. Therefore you will need 2x sets of RCA's to feed a 4 channel amp.

so i was so eager to get my new speakers in and didnt want to go on withought subs i went and bought a brand spanking new kenwood kac-9104d 1800w mono block ,a distribution block, 2 more sets of rca's an rca adaptor from 2 rca to 4 rca's 4 gauge power cable, earth cable the works. but as i find out the 6x9's dont fit as they have little bars off the sides of the speakers that foul on the actual cut out in the p****l shelf. god im soooooooo pissed, i had to drive home from my brothers.... not too far away with no door pannels no dash no back seat no centre console. i think i might have to file some of the metal back so the bars fit through or get a spacer type thing to lift the speakers up a bit so they sit flat

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just mount the 6x9's on the underside of the parcel shelf instead of on top of it if you know what i meen
thats what i did

the edge of the whole how the lip bends down just bend that up and it should fit fine
was done on mine and did it to a mates aswell

thats a good az idea thanks soooo much mate i think you just saved me attacking the car with a *******ing grinder.

lol

should see what im doin to mine
its gonna be f'n hard but just found sum molded space to day to make it easier but gotta make them fit now

just mount the 6x9's on the underside of the parcel shelf instead of on top of it if you know what i meen
thats what i did

the edge of the whole how the lip bends down just bend that up and it should fit fine
was done on mine and did it to a mates aswell
That puts a lot of pressure on the screws holding the speaker up though, I'd avoid that as best I could.

well dont use screws use nuts and bolts it works fine that what ive dont
dont rattle or nuthin havnt come undone yet

I'm guessing you needed and assistant to help mount th e6x9's from under the parcel shelf?
But other than that, seems a good idea and using nuts-n-bolts in place of screws would be the way to go. Star or spring washers if you wanted to be super-sure that things don't loosen.
YOu get to retain the stock speaker grilles too, which I quite like in 3rd Gens - and then again its that "stealth" install, nothing to tempt thieves to rip off your gear.

ill go with the screws just for tonight then go nuts and bolts in the next couple of days, god i shat myself when i realised they didnt fit. i was going to put on the clarion grill but my bro said stealth it, cant have any 1 nicking my gear thanks for all the help guys

so i tried to mount them from underneath and the bar that runs underneath the p****l shelf for the boot stops the speaker from fitting properly so atm i have no 6x9's and no 6"s my dash is just sitting there no screws or anything and i have no amps and just a ****load of wires running through the car.

I'm guessing you needed and assistant to help mount th e6x9's from under the parcel shelf?
But other than that, seems a good idea and using nuts-n-bolts in place of screws would be the way to go. Star or spring washers if you wanted to be super-sure that things don't loosen.
YOu get to retain the stock speaker grilles too, which I quite like in 3rd Gens - and then again its that "stealth" install, nothing to tempt thieves to rip off your gear.

+1 to the stealth install. The more you hide, the "less" you have to steal.

youve got the crossovers the wrong way around mate. should have 6 terminals on it. 2 wires, + and -, that will go into the amp, then WF, then TW. these connect to the speakers.

ive just read this whole thread mate and seriously, go pay a few hundred dollars and get a shop to install the gear for you. not to sound rude but you are going to screw something up.

Agree with Woob. That, or find someone who knows what they're doing (or can read a manual) to do the wiring at least.

yea if your really determined to do it yourself, get a mate to help who actually knows that they are doing, not a mate who 'did it before in his cousins torana' :) if youve got someone with a solid knowledge if the workings of car audio youll learn pretty quickly for next time round

yer i have my brother helping me its all wired up the car is live, i just need these speakers to fit, i started fieling cut outs into the p****l shelf and they sit a bit better now, i just need to clean it up a bit and make it look nice. and get another distribution box and rca adaptors and im set. will hopefully have it all done by sunday. and ill get more pics up.

yer i have my brother helping me its all wired up the car is live, i just need these speakers to fit, i started fieling cut outs into the p****l shelf and they sit a bit better now, i just need to clean it up a bit and make it look nice. and get another distribution box and rca adaptors and im set. will hopefully have it all done by sunday. and ill get more pics up.
Woah woah woah, your not cutting the actual metal shelf are you? :eek2:

yep there is no other way!

shiatzu i just found a place that does performance car audio, i might get them to put them in for me before i screw anything else up!!! good learning curve tho dont do anything yourself lol.

Might I add cutting your parcel shelf is extremely dangerous. Its a very important structural part of the car and should never be modified. There is another way, its getting speakers that fit. Never ever cut the metal shelf.

What Lugo said. Granted, given you're just trying to make the fit there's nearly no chance it'll have an adverse affect, but it's just accepted as a very bad idea.

And 6x9s suck.

What Lugo said. Granted, given you're just trying to make the fit there's nearly no chance it'll have an adverse affect, but it's just accepted as a very bad idea.

And 6x9s suck.

Agreed. I had to mount some 6inch on the underside of a parcel shelf in a lancer and it is painful but possible. Totally agree with woob time to pay someone.

yer im just glad i didnt go the whole hog on what i was going to do i realy only just bent i little lip to try and get them to fit...... hopefully nothing too painfull. i cant change the speakers over either i didn't get reciepts coz it was all through a freind of a freind sorta thing, im going to call these performance car audio guys tomorow, it will probably just need a spacer of some sort. im hoping nothing to hars on ye old wallet.

thanks heaps guys, i think i will go with the verada corner cover... just hoping i can get my hands on a pair. that way it will look standard and no bastard is gonna break in and pinch em. i still have to find spots for 2 more tweeters tho coz i have 6x9 splits, i can mount them in the speaker itself but wasnt sure if that would be a good or bad thing. i was thinking maybe in the c pillar somewhere or they come with little mounts so maybe even the p****l shelf but then it will be blasting into the ears of who ever is in the back seat. so if you have any suggestions please please let me no

thanks guys for all the help

I went for the Verada covers, enabled complete stealth install inside car. Can't see any speakers (except subs in boot, obviously) that don't factory standard, hehe. Plus, optimum height for tweeter level, actually had a crossover that allowed + pr - dB on the tweeter level, knocked mine down so as to get even sound level from front of car.