Went to pedders today just to get the front shocks replaced and meantioned that the tyres are starting to become bald rapidly...

..came back to pick the car up and the guy there said I had a list of problems.


Front
-Brushes are torn
-Tie rod ends have excessive movement
-CV Joints worn and noisy
-Left hand wheel bearings have excessive movement

Rear
-Upper and lower Spherical Joints are loose
-Wheel bearings have excessive movement

the quote to fix the issues came to $2,118:eek2:

My question is...

To fix the problems or ditch the car and get a new one?

keeping in mind I have a 1996 TE with 111,000 on the clock, is it really worth it?

i reckon you should get a second opinion

i reckon you should get a second opinion
+1 on that

Depends if you can do the work yourself and save on labour costs.

I bet it steers like a boat!

ask yourself, do you want to hold on to this car? What could you afford to purchase if you got rid of it?

**** that sounds exspensive, can you do the work yourself??

Just remember it is pedders and they are trying to make money.

A mate took his new VE commy in for lowered springs. They came up with a list of stuff that was wrong with it and were going to try and charge him over 2 grand to fix. (sounding like yours)

The thing was not very old so he just told them he would take it back under warranty and he said all of a sudden they became very sheepish.

Would never listen to what pedders have to say.
Try someone else, more lke a general mechanic and not a suspension specialist who are trying to make money.

I'm not that mechanically minded soo I doubt doing it myself :(

I had the car serviced about 3 weeks ago, the mechanic only picked up on the C.V Joint needs replacing but I had other things more important to fix i.e the muffler etc..
I'll take it around to a few mechanics during the week and see what they say..

If I sell the magna, I'll end up going back to driving 20yo bombodores or failcons b'cuz thats what I can afford at the moment:(

I'll keeps ya's posted on what happens
Thanks for your help guys!

most probably pedders are having you on, if they arn't, drive it till it dies.

Tyre shop tried the same thing with me, drove straight to my mechanic who i trust and he just laughed at their report. Get another opinion, im sure that figure will come down.

Sure, these are all problems Magnas suffer from - but NOT at 111,000 Km! Maybe three times that km, then I might believe that report. Keep your $dosh$ in your pocket and keep driving!

For your peace of mind get a mechanic/friend to check these items - not hard to do - would take half an hour to check play/noise in those items.

Gee that quite an extensive list. My mechanic just points to a general area of the car and says 'its *******ed'. He's a very punctual person.

Take it to mitsubishi. That's what i've been doing lately and never had problems. Sure, maybe a little more expensive on labor, but had no complaints so far.

Went to pedders today

There in lies your problem

Pedders are well known for going through a car and picking things where there are no issues

Forget they exist and you have made the first right move, then go somewhere the mechanic actually knows what they are on about, I am sure many NSW members can steer you in the right direction (away from pedders)

There in lies your problem

Pedders are well known for going through a car and picking things where there are no issues

Forget they exist and you have made the first right move, then go somewhere the mechanic actually knows what they are on about, I am sure many NSW members can steer you in the right direction (away from pedders)

Post of the day!

Fatboy were in NSW are you mate???

have been told that pedders will list anything that has the potential to fail in the next 20,000k of driving. you'll note i said potential. potentially the whole car could sh*t itself in the next 20k. about 15 years ago had pedders do a $14 safety check on a 1975 celica that belonged to my g/f at the time & come back with a bill of around 2k. we'd only paid 1k for the car so you can guess what our response was.
run away and find a real mechanic that is not employed to upsell at every chance they get.

Hey matt, sorry too hear the news??

I have done cv joints before it cost 140 for the part and i can do them for ya

lets me know if you are selling?? or if their is anything i can do??

run away from pedders, as far as you can.

Hey Guys,

Bit of a update, went on ebay and sourced parts cheaper than Pedders quoted.
I also re-read the quote and noticed they didn't pick up on my broken Engine mount

I took my car to pedders about a month ago and got the back shocks done 1st, a mate reckons they ******ed up the wheel alighment and tried hiding it when I bought it back for the front shocks. the other thing is they put the model down on the quote as a "TJ Ralliart Special" :S

I've got my mechinac comming to have a look at the car later this week. he's a honest bloke and he has serviced/repaired every car that I've owned in the past 4 years, never had a issue with him.. he said the same thing "pedders are ripping you off".
I'm conviced to stay the hell away from pedders.


lets me know if you are selling??
yeah you want my magna don't you lol.
I doubt that I'm gonna sell the car, give me a call later, might meet up with ya.

Hey Matt

See what your mechanic thinks when he has a look at it. Some of the issues listed i think would be deffinitly be felt in the driving of the car and sound, can you notice anything?
Was the pedders outlet in the riff?
I have been to the pedders in btown a few times. Back at 60,000 odd k's when i had the car lowered they told me my front passenger shock was leaking and would end up failing over time. At 85,000 k's i think i had a 21 point safety check done and the graphs from both the wheels were perfect and not showing signs of wear at all and also no mention of a leaking shock.
Now at 125,000 k's shocks still good and havent failed.
I am with others and suspect that most of the items are fine still and dont need touching.

PS dont sell your car it looks nice!

Hey Guys,

Bit of a update, went on ebay and sourced parts cheaper than Pedders quoted.
I also re-read the quote and noticed they didn't pick up on my broken Engine mount

I took my car to pedders about a month ago and got the back shocks done 1st, a mate reckons they ******ed up the wheel alighment and tried hiding it when I bought it back for the front shocks. the other thing is they put the model down on the quote as a "TJ Ralliart Special" :S

I've got my mechinac comming to have a look at the car later this week. he's a honest bloke and he has serviced/repaired every car that I've owned in the past 4 years, never had a issue with him.. he said the same thing "pedders are ripping you off".
I'm conviced to stay the hell away from pedders.


yeah you want my magna don't you lol.
I doubt that I'm gonna sell the car, give me a call later, might meet up with ya.

Hey yea, i dont want your car exactly, just the parts on it lol jks

umm yea we have 2 catch up, i dont do anything at the moment im on holidays, i just work all the time.

money for all these ideas for my magna lol

umm lets us no what the mechanics says, pedders is as bad as kmart tyre, dont believe a thing.

kmart tryed to get 2000 from me and when i went to a mechanic my friend. he showed me the parts and they had no more then 10000 km wear and are almost new. my cv still had part numbers on it.:wtf:

ok, an update

Thursday night after work, a work mate noticed my back tyres... I took a look and sh*7ed bricks...

I seem to think pedders stuffed up the alightment on my rear....

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6607/magna20s.jpg

Friday morn, I limped the car to WreakAll in Penrith and got hold of some KH 16" mags for $400..
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9294/matsphone674.jpg
i'm gonna see if the same thing happens with these tyres. I didn't get the mobile mechanic out this week, but he is booked for Tuesday..


Bit pissed off about it all. still awaiting a call back from pedders...

unless pedders had a alignment machine that can do 20" rims then i dont know how they would aline it spot on
normally places would put a 18" rim on and then do the alignment then wack the 20 back on and hope for the best

Realy thats *******ed, sorry for the language, but that sux

sorry to hear, the new rims u should use as stockies lol

the magna isnt as good with-out the 20's

Man, id be telling pedders that they owe you two rear tyres and that they rectify the rear allignment at no cost as they set it . if anything the rear tyres are a great reason not to ever go back there, purely for the quality of the work done. shocking.

Fronts - not enough pressure.

Rears - alignment suspect. Probably too much toe-out. Don't forget that this is an easy adjustment on a Magna.

Go to a decent alignment shop. There is one down Third Avenue backing onto the rail line, used to be called Straight Torque.

Or else Jobsons in Church Street Parramatta.


Before that do the job, ask what settings they will use.
If you have just put new tyres on, at least show them photos of what you took off so they can tweak the settings appropriately.


Insist that you have a print out of the before and after settings.

Gerry

Or maybe you could write the car off, Blame it on the dodgy work of Pedders and sue them for thousands of dollars in damages. And if your nice give everyone else that got ripped off by them, their money back.

Or maybe you could write the car off, Blame it on the dodgy work of Pedders and sue them for thousands of dollars in damages. And if your nice give everyone else that got ripped off by them, their money back.

lol
Mate, shops like these will always try and squeeze a few extra dollars out of every customer by scaring them like this. Some people freak and make an appointment on the spot to have these "problems" fixed. Doing things like this is how they increase profits. Drive your car as it is, it'll be fine - with the exception of those rear tires, take them back and demand they fix the problem and replace your tires for free. Most of the time these guys don't want any trouble, and will just do it.

My 2c

My local pedders quoted me $3800 to fix up various problems with my car and told me to get rid of it. I can get all the parts for $1100 just have to pay for labour for the steering rack cause I dont want to do it myself.

I feel sorry for unsuspecting citizens!

Clearly no one who has posted here knows how the rear end of a Magna and the allignment works especially when lowered on larger wheels

There is one person to blame for those tyres, THE OWNER and as much as I think that Pedders are a bunch of rogues they are not to blame and lets not also forget that the rear tyre was worn out on the other side as well!!!!!

Magnas, as well as many other cars will scrub the inner of the rear tyre when you do not rotate them on a very regular basis. This is because of the camber you have induced through lowering. Looking at that pic, the car is fairly low too.

You have then made the issue worse by using large wide tyres on 20's (from what I read) which means that the tyre has almost no give and again will cause more wear. Again rotation is your friend.

Now, you still have not listed the real issues with the car aside from it having been lowered too much and the front that sits up higher than the rear end which is not a good thing especially on a FWD. You have purchased a heap of parts by the sounds of it, have you actually confirmed that there is really anything wrong with the car aside from a poor set up in the suspension and ride height?

Oh, but it looks good! Who cares if the alignment is way out and it eats tyres? {cynical tone}

Then again you could also go the fuel company for providing the fuel that made the car go and thus wore out the tyres, also the car company for making the car in the first place or wait, do what billy collelly did, sue god, he made the people who discovered the materials who made the car and the fuel that thus in the end caused these tyres to wear out. He also made the people who run pedders as well so there is your answer

or you could just keep an eye on your car a little better than you have.. mate how long did you have them rear tires on and not notice how badly they are worn they look like they should have been replaced ages ago

That picture remined me I needed new tyres on the front of my car - wen t out today and got some, so thanks for posting that picture!!

Then again you could also go the fuel company for providing the fuel that made the car go and thus wore out the tyres, also the car company for making the car in the first place or wait, do what billy collelly did, sue god, he made the people who discovered the materials who made the car and the fuel that thus in the end caused these tyres to wear out. He also made the people who run pedders as well so there is your answer

mate, I'm not that mechanically minded, I was looking for advice...not to be insulted..
in reply to your other post though...
I bought the car in Feb 2009 with most of the mods on it i.e lowering, 20s etc probly is a dumb idea having a car with those things done to it..
I just find it suss that the tyres can wear out that bad in 4 weeks since having the rear shocks replaced... rather than wear like that over the whole 6 months I've owned it....

Mate, was not having a go at you, was having a dig at all the posts telling you to go to pedders and demand new tyres

This wear is quite normal wear over some time, I would say that your tyres have bene low for some time, there is no way this wear occured in 4 weeks on the back of a FWD

Keep a close eye on your current tyres and see how they end up

Hey Matt, your car will perform better withoutt the 20's

u should go and chomp some ford nuggets and feel better, it all was helps lol

Just as a side note - its not just Pedders that tries to get extra work.

Went to a tyre place to get a pair of standard size Bridgestone or Goodyear tyres. I asked for a wheel alignment too. I must look like a mug, because they sold me a pair of Sumitomos instead and skipped the wheel alignment. The place was full of no hoper bogan types (on both sides of the counter) so I didn't argue. When I paid his parting shot was "Mate, your CV joints are shot and your suspension bushes are sloppy. We can do them for $. . . . ."

You know the rest of the conversation by now.

Not going back there - anyone who tells me my driveshafts are shot after I rebuilt them 3 months ago can go jump.

The Sumitomos handle ok but they are soft compound so I don't expect them to last long.

thats dodgy

umm kmart as i meantion is not dodgy but do the same thing, i was happy with kmart, good service and gr8 job. just gave me a list of parts that i know is fine.

but do u think their on comission and more sale more money??

Dodgy? Nope, just businesses desperate to keep the money flowing in.

Anyway, a good business will listen to the customer and supply what he asks for, and not suggest unnescessary work, otherwise they destroy any chance of that customer returning.

It's all a matter of psychology, if the guy behind the counter suggests a free undercar inspection before they touch the car, some people might jump at the opportunity. If they then say "well, your muffler has holes in it" and throw a picture of your holey muffler onto their computer screen and then politely suggest that they can fix it for X dollars, and "no it doesn't need doing now, but sometime soon, think about it." they'd be much more likely to get repeat business. The customer has just forked out several hundred dollars for tyres, and isn't likely to commit to further expense on the spot. He will go away, think about it, go "mmmm that exhaust is getting louder" and NEXT PAYDAY, when he has the dosh, he will happily walk in and get that job done.

It's all about being subtle. Businesses desperate for money are anything but subtle, and it shows. You can smell it in the air when you walk in (just about)