View Full Version : Cruise control after manual conversion..
Deanimus
30-06-2009, 04:03 PM
Hey all,
Ive had this delema for quiet some time now, After magna buff and I sorted the manual conversion we put the inhibitor switch in so we can start the car(because were still using the auto computer. And it thinks its in park.)
So Now heres the problem, because the car thinks its in park i cant use cruise control and it needs to be in d to work, and the car wont start in d I need someone to help me out.
Someone told me you can hook up a button to press when the car is running to change it to d? Not 100%.
All help is appreciated.
Dean
perry
30-06-2009, 05:51 PM
what about a manual computer , that might help
Screamin TE
30-06-2009, 05:58 PM
speak to mohit, he had a manual verada. and afaik he had a couple of cruise control issues but got it all sorted eventually.
Whippy
30-06-2009, 06:04 PM
cant you put the inhabiter switch on Neutral, as my TJ can start in N.. (not sure able the cruise control as i dont have cruise..)
Harty
30-06-2009, 06:11 PM
Not sure what the wiring is like on the KS but this thread might help... Linky (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21791)
This is the next step for my manual conversion.
Nemesis
30-06-2009, 06:18 PM
PM Madmagna as he has done this conversion and has working cruise control.
Deanimus
30-06-2009, 09:35 PM
Cheers guys.
Perry Im using a manual computer for the ecu but still use the tcu as i didnt have a manual loom.
Ill check it out, hopefully i can get back to the good ol cruise control
Madmagna
01-07-2009, 06:28 AM
Is simple when you have done it lol
What you need to remember is that the start circuit and the cruise circuit are 2 different set ups and do not relate to each other THUS what you can do is exactly like Mohit as this will aslo apply to the second gen
The signal for the cruise you feed power as it would have when the car is in gear with the auto. Make sure it is ignition power source
The signal for the start, pop that through a relay and all good as the 2 will not know the other exists.
Daniel_Watson
01-07-2009, 06:34 AM
Just a word of warning...watch out when using cruise control and changing gears...can very quickly redline. This almost happened to mine. I have an aftermarket CC on a a non CC car (not sure if the factory ones have anything different). Trick is if you can source the cable that senses if the brakes are on or not and install a second brake switch to the clutch pedal and put it in series. That way if either the brake or the clutch is activated the CC will disengage.
Madmagna
01-07-2009, 06:51 AM
Just a word of warning...watch out when using cruise control and changing gears...can very quickly redline. This almost happened to mine. I have an aftermarket CC on a a non CC car (not sure if the factory ones have anything different). Trick is if you can source the cable that senses if the brakes are on or not and install a second brake switch to the clutch pedal and put it in series. That way if either the brake or the clutch is activated the CC will disengage.
The clutch HAS to have a switch on it
TF Magna
01-07-2009, 07:26 AM
im buyin the parts for my manual conversion. who did the conversion for u guys??
is it easy to do your self and what tools are needed??
Deanimus
01-07-2009, 12:26 PM
Tis pretty easy if you have an idea about cars. Theres just a few things to do, and it cool cos as you do things your cross of what needs to be done and keep going. Check out my sig for the 2nd gen conversion. Plenty of people have done it so many will be able to help you..
Thanks madmagna.. Ill try and sort this out asap. Plus ill post up a pic of how i did it...
Madmagna
01-07-2009, 01:15 PM
If you are savvy with wiring, you could most likely cheat and use the plug for the inhibitor switch in the engine bay and do all your work there, is not a biggie, just a matter of tracing which wires to cross and tap into the relay with.
im buyin the parts for my manual conversion. who did the conversion for u guys??
is it easy to do your self and what tools are needed??
Have a look at my thread in members machines, I have gone several steps futher than just manual conversion, you will see the proper way to do this there. Some do go and cut a lot of corners when they do them such as the fluid line for the clutch not being placed behind the padding where it belongs.
Mohit
01-07-2009, 06:51 PM
My mechanic got cruise to work on my manual conversion after i gave him some info from this forum. Wookie posted up some schematics they're on the forums somewhere (ie. do a search).
On mine the inhibitor switch was set through neutral, so you'd have to depress the clutch pedal for the car to start. When the car was started, the N gear position indicator in the dash would light up when the trans was in any of the forward gears, or in the neutral gate. The R gear position indicator would light up when the trans was put into reverse. It was put thru a relay otherwise you could not start the car.
The cruise itself worked just like a stock cruise control system would work on a manual, meaning when the clutch pedal was depressed cruise would disengage. When the clutch pedal was released cruise could be resumed when you pushed the cruise stalk in the Resume direction.
Deanimus
01-07-2009, 07:04 PM
Did you install a switch on the clutch? ie new or wrecker?
[TUFFTR]
01-07-2009, 07:11 PM
Did you install a switch on the clutch? ie new or wrecker?
Pretty sure (mal can confirm) that the brake switch is exactly the same switch to use
Mohit
01-07-2009, 07:24 PM
Did you install a switch on the clutch? ie new or wrecker?
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Pretty sure (mal can confirm) that the brake switch is exactly the same switch to use
As the tuffter said the switches are the same on both the brake and clutch pedals. The cutch pedal box i bought came with a switch already on it as it came from a manual Magna that had factory cruise.
TF Magna
02-07-2009, 06:12 AM
sorry this is a little of topic like my last post but im just reading this thread at the moment
and i was wonderin if u need any specific tools (anything besides a soldering iron) for any part of the conversion
Daniel_Watson
02-07-2009, 08:33 AM
Depending on how you wire it the switch isnt the same. The simplest is to use a switch in series with the brake switch which will simply break the connection on one of the brake cables.
The clutch switch i had (old datsun/nissan one) was active when the clutch was depressed so the cc would only work when the clutch was disengaged. You need a switch which is active when it has the clutch engaged (ie the pedal up and switch is depressed)
I am going to either rewire the switch or relay it or find one that will be active when it the clutch is up. So currently i need to tap the brake before i change gears (ok while im the only driver).
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