This has probably been done to death but what is the general thought on lowering .King springs by all threads I have read,lows or super lows and does anyone have an idea on cost of just springs only.thanks guys.

Gday Bitsa, My VRX is going in next week for kings superlows allround.Give Shawn at Phillcom rally a call(0434 828 207) $235 for kings + $120 to fit not including a wheel align(he send's you around to the local ).Most places wanted $600 for springs fitted(inc align) Pedders was $800? Tell him where you got his number from as he is a site sponsor.

Thanks mate.Just fitted 90mm intake as my first mod today ,dont know whether to wait until get new wheels then lower or lower now , depends what can get past mrs.Price sounds bloody good was quoted about $660 from a place on same road as my work as the old boy I work with took on a gutter with his evo10 and lost and this was the place they all send there cars for front end work.Was that price all 4 corners,just under $400 is good.What area is he?

Mine's got King Springs, but I've gone with SuperLows in front and Lows in rear (Blue380 recommended to me), as 380s/Magnas sit higher in the front than rear. Doing this combination will have your car sit equally. Others have gone with SuperLows all around (Type40 did when he had his 380), so it's up to you. But you will have a much better ride after the lowering too.

Thanks Grubco might just do same as yourself, if I get 18,20" rims dont want to stuff around with having to roll guards ,make life a bit less of a head f..k

Thanks Grubco might just do same as yourself, if I get 18,20" rims dont want to stuff around with having to roll guards ,make life a bit less of a head f..k

No need to roll guards! Even SuperLows won't get you that low. I still have about less than an inch wheel arch gap all around, and never scrap anywhere. I actually wanted mine lower, but my mechanic said I'd need shorter shocks and then the car would scrap everywhere (and wouldn't fit on his hoist anymore). The SuperLows+Lows will suck out a lot of height and give you a good firm ride without sacrificing clearances, etc.
As for rims, I'd heartily recommend "at least" 19s. 18s will look like 16s on a 380 (and mine came with 16s!). 19s do not look HUGE, but they do look nice. 20s will look great too if you can afford them (or go with 22s like another member, MCHenry, has).

Thanks Grubco might just do same as yourself, if I get 18,20" rims dont want to stuff around with having to roll guards ,make life a bit less of a head f..k

I had to get my rear guards rolled when I upgraded to 19's with 35 offset & 245/40 tyres. Even after rolling, the rear guards still scrubbed so I had a 15mm spacer fitted in the rear & havent had a problem since. If I had my time over, I would have got custom rear springs lowered 15mm more than standard as the rears sit reasonably low anyway. It would appear I am the only one on here that has King lows on the rear that has had these problems.

suppose it depends on the Alloy wheels you have if you had the only issue blue

I dont think I will lower mine yet I quite like the neutrality the handling has ATM

A blast through the RNP this week made me realise it is a good package stock and its alot more comfortable than the lowered corolla doing the same run

Sure I can go harder in the corolla but that was always going to be my car to drive fast round corners and stick like **** to a blanket
my 380 is the more leisurely vehicle with a softer side for comfort for the long drives

Is the GT and VRX suspension different (firmer) than the the other models?
My 2005 GT feels quite firm almost like the ride on my old VYSS

GT, VRX and SX I think all have the stiffer suspension

So if you want to fit king springs for a slightly lower ride do you need to change the shockers?

Chris,

No need to change shocks, even standard shocks work perfectly well with lowered springs. My setup is standard shocks with King lows on the rear and superlows on the front. Reasonably compliant ride and good handling. The uprated VRX/SX/GT shocks work better and give a firmer and more controlled ride, and as you have a GT you already have the uprated shocks. Don't know of anyone who yet makes aftermarket shocks for a 380, not even Monroe, and you don't really need them anyway.

KJ

Kings trade are around 120 a set, I got mine installed for 100 bucks...

Do the rears yourself and get a pro to do the fronts

Cheers Guys

I've been waiting a week and 1/2 for my Kings to rock up.Was told their only making 380 springs to order know as there is no demand?

Well I might create another order for them.
I dont want to go too low. What front end clearance is there on king lows? I dont want to be unable to clear road humps without stopping.

Chris,

I have superlows on the front and lows on the rear, as do many members here. If you go with 'just' lows all round it willl look uneven and too high at the front, and with still a very large gap between the front wheel arch and the top of the tyre.

I have had no problems at all with clearance of humps, driveways etc.

Unlike my old TE Magna, where I also had superlows front and lows rear, and I had a few problems with steep driveways.

The 380 with superlows on the front is nowhere near as low as the TE was, don't ask me why.

KJ.

Got any pics?

Got any pics?

I have that same combination too (SuperLows front, Lows rear). Looks good, and the car has same height all round.
It isn't too low (ie far from "slammed") and still has heaps of clearance for driveways, ramps, speed bumps, etc etc. I'm sure you'll regret putting just Lows in the front when you see how much height is still in there - but up to you.
You can check my pics in Post Your Ride Thread (my profile pic is probably too small to discern).
Also, yes you're right; the upper models (GT, VRX, etc) have better suspension than the lower models ('Base', ES, etc) as did mine - but after the springs upgrade it's much better!

All this talk about lowering and such, can any one of you tell me what the ride height is front and back with the superlow front and low rears?

cheers

All this talk about lowering and such, can any one of you tell me what the ride height is front and back with the superlow front and low rears?

cheers

Ricbec,

Just measured mine, and it's 680mm front and 660mm rear, both sides.

That's from the top of the wheel arch to the ground. On a level hard surface, with a nearly full tank of petrol. On an empty tank I reckon it would ride a couple of mm higher at the rear.

And with 235/40 R18 tyres.

KJ.

Disregard my earlier post on the lack of availability of Kings 380 springs.Looks like someone's been BSing me for the past 2 weeks since i ordered.Got an email yesterday telling me they will be another week so I rang Kings(got plenty mate!) then went to Sprints at about 10.30am ,ordered them ,and they rocked up at 2pm.WTF ! Will be ring them tomorrow to cancel original order/install,what tossers!

ive got superlows all round. mine sits even. just wheel arch gap is different. i wish i had a flat driveway so i could dump it on its ass.

Lower would be nice, but on my stock VRX I am scraping going out of my driveway!! How do you guys go with the front spoiler? They didn't give much thought to approach angles on it!!

Lower would be nice, but on my stock VRX I am scraping going out of my driveway!! How do you guys go with the front spoiler? They didn't give much thought to approach angles on it!!

Mine hasn't got much paint left on the bottom side of it.

I would like to be a touch lower on my GT but the ride is quite firm as it is on the crappy local roads

We running with Superlow King's all round which only set us back $400 fitted and wheel alignment (only for another couple of weeks till they get upgraded FINALLY!!), we dont get much scrubbing, only coz of the 22"s. But even still just as Foozrcool pointed out with his front bar we dont have much paint left on ours either.

Check out the EBAY thread for cheap AS king front lows

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1120638&postcount=1686

From what I can gather you guys lower the front to bring it level with the rear right so I could get this and still get in my drive but have the car sitting level

Hmmm think I will have to talk to the finance minister

Mecha,

Most of us who have fitted King springs have gone with lows at the rear and super lows at the front, to get a decent but manageable drop in ride height and retain 'levelness' (is there such a word?).

The ones advertised on Fleabay are front lows, not superlows. So if you put them on and retained the stock rears the car should remain reasonably level. If you went front & rear lows it would have a slightly 'nose up' appearance. But $39 for the front pair, even with $20 to $25 postage sure is cheap! Just not so sure about mixing lowered front springs with stock rears, regards springs rates, handling etc. Maybe one of our resident suspension experts can comment.

KJ.

Mecha,

Most of us who have fitted King springs have gone with lows at the rear and super lows at the front, to get a decent but manageable drop in ride height and retain 'levelness' (is there such a word?).

The ones advertised on Fleabay are front lows, not superlows. So if you put them on and retained the stock rears the car should remain reasonably level. If you went front & rear lows it would have a slightly 'nose up' appearance. But $39 for the front pair, even with $20 to $25 postage sure is cheap! Just not so sure about mixing lowered front springs with stock rears, regards springs rates, handling etc. Maybe one of our resident suspension experts can comment.

KJ.

This could be the way I will go with just king lows on the front.
I will watch this thread with interest

Thanks Kj yeah I hope one of the SUSPENSION guys can advise

but I have put a bid on them If I win I will put them on if not OH well

Mecha,

Most of us who have fitted King springs have gone with lows at the rear and super lows at the front, to get a decent but manageable drop in ride height and retain 'levelness' (is there such a word?).

The ones advertised on Fleabay are front lows, not superlows. So if you put them on and retained the stock rears the car should remain reasonably level. If you went front & rear lows it would have a slightly 'nose up' appearance. But $39 for the front pair, even with $20 to $25 postage sure is cheap! Just not so sure about mixing lowered front springs with stock rears, regards springs rates, handling etc. Maybe one of our resident suspension experts can comment.

KJ.
Mecha
It really depends a lot on what the spring rates on the new ones are and if they are constant or progressive. Any change to your suspension will make your car feel different, sometimes dramatically, sometimes disastrously. I feel a face to face chat with someone who knows their suspension and can explain to you in detail the pros and cons would be more beneficial than a lengthy discourse here. Only my opinion though.

If I go lowered springs I'm thinking about Koni adjustable shocks. My current shocks will be worth replacing at this stage (95 000km).

Anyone have any idea what TMR fitted on the TMR380?

I was wondering if Tein did any coilovers for the US galant that may be compatible with the 380 now that would be something. Stuff lowered springs!! Give me the real deal!

I was wondering if Tein did any coilovers for the US galant that may be compatible with the 380 now that would be something. Stuff lowered springs!! Give me the real deal!

Might be very expensive but.

Might be very expensive but.

Take out the "might be" and you would be spot on! They are, however, in a different ball park altogether. Your handling will be totally different even from lowered and heavy duty sports shocks. The Shocks on them can be rebuilt and are easily adjustable especially if you have the electronic adjuster fitted (more $$$). They are height adjustable too but will cost you a wheel alignment every time you do it. Beware the cheapo Asian knockoffs though, they have had some bad reports back on them.

Is the GT and VRX suspension different (firmer) than the the other models?
My 2005 GT feels quite firm almost like the ride on my old VYSS

The rule is that any 380 factory fitted with 17 inch wheels has the firmer sports suspension this includes the following vehicles:
- Series I and II, VRX, GT and LX with 17 inch option
- Series II and III SX
- Series II and III Platinum Edition
- Series III GTL

Any updates on fitting kings lows just to the front ?
Someone was going to check with an expert if I remember

Any updates on fitting kings lows just to the front ?
Someone was going to check with an expert if I remember

Chris,do the whole lot mate, it will look so much better than with its bum in the air.I'm not sure how it would handle with stiffer springs up front and stockers out back either?Superlows aren't that much lower than lows and the ride is still good.You handy?,fit them yourself with a mate its really not that hard(spring compressors are handy) and you save hundreds,just wizz it down to the wheel aligner when ya done! Sprints in the Port supplied Kings for 260ish from memory.

Chris,do the whole lot mate, it will look so much better than with its bum in the air.I'm not sure how it would handle with stiffer springs up front and stockers out back either?Superlows aren't that much lower than lows and the ride is still good.You handy?,fit them yourself with a mate its really not that hard(spring compressors are handy) and you save hundreds,just wizz it down to the wheel aligner when ya done! Sprints in the Port supplied Kings for 260ish from memory.

what hes trying to acheive with just lows is the same look the rest of us get with SL/L combo. this doesnt result in a bum in the air look, rather should look more even front and rear than stock.
chris you might want to check with any wheels/tyre/suspension shops you are firendly with ask their advice of the stock aftermarket spring combo, if you dont know any possibly go strait to kings or similar, dont even worry bout telling them the car type or anything.
just ideas anyway

what hes trying to acheive with just lows is the same look the rest of us get with SL/L combo. this doesnt result in a bum in the air look, rather should look more even front and rear than stock.
chris you might want to check with any wheels/tyre/suspension shops you are firendly with ask their advice of the stock aftermarket spring combo, if you dont know any possibly go strait to kings or similar, dont even worry bout telling them the car type or anything.
just ideas anyway

Yeah i can understand that I guess but what I was getting at is the 380 with its high rear qtrs ,small boot lid, big rear bar and in some cases a biggish spoiler looks almost hatchback like and,as my wife put it when I first bought the VRX home, "Looks like someones kicked it up the bum"!:woot:

Yeah i can understand that I guess but what I was getting at is the 380 with its high rear qtrs ,small boot lid, big rear bar and in some cases a biggish spoiler looks almost hatchback like and,as my wife put it when I first bought the VRX home, "Looks like someones kicked it up the bum"!:woot:

ah i understand what you meant now... ive thought a couple of time if the rear bar didnt stick out half a km past the rest of that back face the car would look alot meaner, and would probably lessen the effect you are talking about, might have to look at going custom (one rst of plans are finished!)

you should have used a celica to demonstrate ur point, would have known immediately then, they suffer far worse from this than the 380 (though the wings they get dont help much)

Got hold of kings lows front and rear. What price should I be looking at for fitting. The guys I normally use do a fantastic job but charge like wounded bulls. Was thinking of giving my local Ultra tune a try.

Got hold of kings lows front and rear. What price should I be looking at for fitting. The guys I normally use do a fantastic job but charge like wounded bulls. Was thinking of giving my local Ultra tune a try.
$150 for AMC buddies! one of the south australians will know how to do it!

Got hold of kings lows front and rear. What price should I be looking at for fitting. The guys I normally use do a fantastic job but charge like wounded bulls. Was thinking of giving my local Ultra tune a try.

See second post this thread! That price was for supply and fit so in your case just fitment maybe more,no wheel alignment included in that either.I think about $50-$60 from BJ's.

Found it
Cheers

Thought I'd post this from the other thread just for everyones info & future reference.

I just had a call back from one of the KYB Tech guys & they said the Excel G shocks they sell for the 380 are only valved about 5% firmer than the stock VRX/SX/GT shocks so no real benifit upgrading unless your current ones are stuffed or you have a base model ES & want a firmer ride.

Thought I'd post this from the other thread just for everyones info & future reference.

I just had a call back from one of the KYB Tech guys & they said the Excel G shocks they sell for the 380 are only valved about 5% firmer than the stock VRX/SX/GT shocks so no real benifit upgrading unless your current ones are stuffed or you have a base model ES & want a firmer ride.

Thanks for the info Fooz.

As you know, I have a base model and I'm a little worried that lowered springs etc are causing my shocks to wear out a bit quicker than normal, so I've been thinking about better/firmer shocks for a while now. As you say, nothing out there for a 380 other than the KYB Excel G.

Did the tech give you an idea on prices?

I enquired with Shawn from Phillcom a few months ago but he didn't get back to me with a price.

KJ.

Thanks for the info Fooz.

As you know, I have a base model and I'm a little worried that lowered springs etc are causing my shocks to wear out a bit quicker than normal, so I've been thinking about better/firmer shocks for a while now. As you say, nothing out there for a 380 other than the KYB Excel G.

Did the tech give you an idea on prices?

I enquired with Shawn from Phillcom a few months ago but he didn't get back to me with a price.

KJ.

For you I think the Excel G's would be a good upgrade but not so much for me since I have the VRX ones already. I was looking for firmer again (more dampening) as there are times on larger dumps with the King springs, the car gets a little bit unsettled as the shocks aren't quite firm enough to control the heavier springs.

No idea of pricing as I was talking to KYB tech & they would have to be purchased through a reseller.

I spoke to the guys who are going to be doing my brake upgrade who told me they have braided lines for the 380 as they made the ones for the TMR380. Asked about suspension & he said he would enquire with TMR as to what they did with the Konis so there maybe a solution in the future there also.

never mind.

I just had a call back from one of the KYB Tech guys & they said the Excel G shocks they sell for the 380 are only valved about 5% firmer than the stock VRX/SX/GT shocks so no real benifit upgrading unless your current ones are stuffed or you have a base model ES & want a firmer ride.

Leading on from this the KYB tech guy said it might be possible to get the stock shocks revalved (heavier), only one company in Melb (talking to KYB Melb) does this & they don't like doing the KYB's he said.

Found a place local in Brisbane that say they can do this, have shot off an email enquiry & will post any updates when I get them.

Any recommendations for places in Brisbane to get my vrx lowered? The cheapest I've been quoted is $700 supply and fitted.

I got my king lows off of ebay for around $300 delivered. You maybe able to get the queensland crew to help you installing them?

Any recommendations for places in Brisbane to get my vrx lowered? The cheapest I've been quoted is $700 supply and fitted.

In Perth I was quoted $640 for King lows for the back and super lows for the front.

I thought prices over east were always cheaper, so I'd shop around.

:hmm:Fitting them is not straight forward unless you are in SA:happy:

We had a few "HICCUPS" in NSW fitting them but can be done :facejump:

Just be prepared to have the car fight you all the way :eek2:

and I paid $0 for my King springs :facejump:

It is by far the best way to make the car look good just sits better

Leading on from this the KYB tech guy said it might be possible to get the stock shocks revalved (heavier), only one company in Melb (talking to KYB Melb) does this & they don't like doing the KYB's he said.

Found a place local in Brisbane that say they can do this, have shot off an email enquiry & will post any updates when I get them.

I have a set of ES springs/shocks (done50k0, that are just lying around, if you want to mod/borrow/use them, they are yours.

I have a set of ES springs/shocks (done50k0, that are just lying around, if you want to mod/borrow/use them, they are yours.

Thanks mate, I haven't had a reply back yet about revalving the OEM's. They are a sealed shock & maybe the place in Melbourne might be the only people to tackle this.

I have something brewing on the Koni front which would be the preference, I'll let you know if I wanna take your offer up.

Can people here who have 18" rims with size 40 profile tyres, with King lows and/or super lows tell me what the ground clearance is from the bottom of the front spoiler to the ground is?

I had a reply from the shock absorber guys here in Brisbane. They can cut the OEM KYB's open & revalve for $132 each shock (this is off the car). There may also be a Koni solution available, still waiting for a call back. This will involve having to purchase new Konis & then pay for revalving to suit the 380 as there are none available off the shelf to suit & would include a reduced warranty.

Any thoughts peoples?

If you're revalving and having to cut the shock anyway, might aswell just use the old stock shocks - no point paying for Koni-quality and ripping them apart anyway :)

Hey.

The guys lowering my car next week suggest to go for super lows all round, rather than just super lows for the front, and lows for the rear - as seems to be the general concensus here.

I've not come across anyone here that have super lows all round.

What are your thoughts guys?

I have the weekend to decide.

Go for it! :happy: Just be careful with ground clearance. I ripped my front bumper off the other day just with lows.

Too soft & low to be practical!

Hey.

The guys lowering my car next week suggest to go for super lows all round, rather than just super lows for the front, and lows for the rear - as seems to be the general concensus here.

I've not come across anyone here that have super lows all round.

What are your thoughts guys?

I have the weekend to decide.

My mechanic friend who did mine, suggested the same, saying my preferred combination sounded weird. But I stuck to it anyway (ie Lows & SuperLows) and after it was done, he agreed this way looked better. He also did my Magna before, which was equal all round and sat lower in the rear as a result.
I have scraped driveways and carpark ramps, etc, with the SuperLows but nothing serious as yet.

No lower than lows on the front if you value your front skirt

No lower than lows on the front if you value your front skirt

or you could just drive more slowly, only time mine ever scrapes is when im driving too fast (too fast on the hurts-my-skeleton-due-to-speed-bumps-o-meter not the radar gun)

This debate seems to go on forever.

I've never had a problem with my front bar fouling on anything, and I have the lows rear superlows front combo.

I have a base model which has a different front bar lower part than a GT/VRX/SX.

It seems all the guys with clearance problems have the GT/VRX/SX front bar.

What we need are some definitive front bar ground clearance measurements.

I'll get the ball rolling - my ground clearance from the lowest part of the front bar (middle of the back edge) is 210mm.

KJ.

or you could just drive more slowly, only time mine ever scrapes is when im driving too fast (too fast on the hurts-my-skeleton-due-to-speed-bumps-o-meter not the radar gun)

I also found that all of my scraping is from the tow hook which appears to be lower/more protruding than the bumper. And as you say, slower driving up & down ramps, or diagonally across speed bumps, etc, ought to do it.

Drive more slowly???Are you mad sir!!
or you could just drive more slowly, only time mine ever scrapes is when im driving too fast (too fast on the hurts-my-skeleton-due-to-speed-bumps-o-meter not the radar gun)

i never said i follow my own advice. have currently accrued 14 demerit points... whoops (though 3 for driving on the wrong side of a median strip at 3 am on a tuesday night was a little rediculous:P)

This debate seems to go on forever.

I've never had a problem with my front bar fouling on anything, and I have the lows rear superlows front combo.

I have a base model which has a different front bar lower part than a GT/VRX/SX.

It seems all the guys with clearance problems have the GT/VRX/SX front bar.

What we need are some definitive front bar ground clearance measurements.

I'll get the ball rolling - my ground clearance from the lowest part of the front bar (middle of the back edge) is 210mm.

KJ.

Yeah I have the same combo as you, and also a base model. And I haven't had any bad scrapes/dragging, etc of the bumper either. I'll measure mine tomorrow.

My lowest point on the VRX is 135mm outer rear edge. Just in front of that where it is actually higher I have next to no paint left on the underside.

That's 75mm lower that KJ's lowest point ....... this is why the VRX/SX/GT's have clearence problems.

My lowest point on the VRX is 135mm outer rear edge. Just in front of that where it is actually higher I have next to no paint left on the underside.

That's 75mm lower that KJ's lowest point ....... this is why the VRX/SX/GT's have clearence problems.

We've measured from different places.

My clearance from the outer rear edge (i.e. just in front of the tyre) is 170mm.

So I suppose my first measurement (middle of the front bar, under the numberplate) wasn't really the lowest point at all.

We really need two measurements - one from the lowest point at the front/middle of the bar and one from the outer edge immediately in front of the tyre.

But going with the outer edge measurement there still seems to be 35mm more clearance with the base model bar compared to the GT/VRX/GT bar.

KJ

We've measured from different places.

My clearance from the outer rear edge (i.e. just in front of the tyre) is 170mm.

So I suppose my first measurement (middle of the front bar, under the numberplate) wasn't really the lowest point at all.

We really need two measurements - one from the lowest point at the front/middle of the bar and one from the outer edge immediately in front of the tyre.

But going with the outer edge measurement there still seems to be 35mm more clearance with the base model bar compared to the GT/VRX/GT bar.

KJ

I just measured right in front of the tyre & it is 135mm there too. I'm pretty sure I only have lows on the front as the guard gap is a fair bit bigger than the rear.

So mine is 35mm lower with lows than yours with super lows. Sounds like a recipe for disaster puting superlows on a VRX then :eek2:

mine with superlows is around 135 also (had to measure with a ruler). at the low point in front of wheel
also cant use this as comparision as we all running different tyre+wheel diameters

Thanks for the re-assurance guys.

Think I'll stick to by initial decision to go with the low and s/low combo :)

I have lows allround. Front is 160mm just in front of tyre. And 200mm just at rear tyre

I have lows allround. Front is 160mm just in front of tyre. And 200mm just at rear tyre

Did you measure the front at the outer edge in front of the tyre or at the lowest point just in front of the tyre? Looks like your running a stock wheel/tyre setup? I am still 25mm lower if you measured in the same place, I know the Supercharger weighs about 15kg but I wouldn't think the suspension would be that much lower lol

Cheap even if only pedders - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320528310074&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

personally, the Pedders were a far better spring in my 380 than the kings...

this is how it sits with the Pedders sports ryders.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/starlet-turbo/side1.jpg

Did you measure the front at the outer edge in front of the tyre or at the lowest point just in front of the tyre? Looks like your running a stock wheel/tyre setup? I am still 25mm lower if you measured in the same place, I know the Supercharger weighs about 15kg but I wouldn't think the suspension would be that much lower lol

Yes I measured at lowest point in front of tyre. And I have the stock 17" setup
I also reckon they have settled a bit lower since first fitment. Certainly drastically improves the cars handling.

Well, as a base point comparison....

My car with standard springs measures 180mm from the lowest point just in front of the tyre.

I've taken heaps of different measurements from different points all around the car.

I'm very interested to see the difference once I get my lows, s/lows tomorrow.

I measured mine today. Base model with standard bumper and 19s on SuperLows at front and Lows rear.
Front sides of bumpers/wheel arch (ie right infront of tyres) is 165mm. Centre of bumper, back behind the rego plate, is about 195mm.

Another bargain Kings front lows $70 - freight is a bit fierce though but it is listed upfront http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280429933941&_trksid=e11010.m204&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D 12&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:AU:1348

I got mine done on the weekend. Super lows all round. I hardly scrape, only if going over things at a decent speed. I am worried mostly about the cement blocks at car parks because before now I was always a touch parker... The front springs were a big stuff around to put in. Rears were easy.

I got mine done on the weekend. Super lows all round. I hardly scrape, only if going over things at a decent speed. I am worried mostly about the cement blocks at car parks because before now I was always a touch parker... The front springs were a big stuff around to put in. Rears were easy.

Yes, be very careful of those cement blocks at car parks...

My mechanic friend who did mine, suggested the same, saying my preferred combination sounded weird. But I stuck to it anyway (ie Lows & SuperLows) and after it was done, he agreed this way looked better. He also did my Magna before, which was equal all round and sat lower in the rear as a result.
I have scraped driveways and carpark ramps, etc, with the SuperLows but nothing serious as yet.

Same.

I got my car lowered yesterday, and the guys had never heard of the low/super low combo before - usually just doing either but not both.

I was almost talked out of it, but in the end stuck to my original decision.

In the end they agreed it was a much better result, and in fact, asked me if they could take a couple of pics to put up on their website.

Of course I said yes :)

Car looks awesome.

I just found out I have Kings Superlows all round!! No wonder my front measurement is so low.

I had a couple of wheels off today & saw the part numbers on the springs. KCFL-24SL front & KCRL-25SL rear. (The SL denotes Superlow)

The dealer had my springs fitted before delivery & I always thought I had lows. :nuts:

I just found out I have Kings Superlows all round!! No wonder my front measurement is so low.

I had a couple of wheels off today & saw the part numbers on the springs. KCFL-24SL front & KCRL-25SL rear. (The SL denotes Superlow)

The dealer had my springs fitted before delivery & I always thought I had lows. :nuts:


Another bargain Kings front lows $70 - freight is a bit fierce though but it is listed upfront http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280429933941&_trksid=e11010.m204&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D 12&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:AU:1348

They are still there

They are still there

:facepalm As if I'm gonna raise my front suspension :nuts:

I'm not complaining I just didn't realise they were Superlows :happy:

I had a couple of wheels off today & saw the part numbers on the springs. KCFL-24SL front & KCRL-25SL rear. (The SL denotes Superlow)



Where are the part numbers located, and can you see them without removing the wheels?

Where are the part numbers located, and can you see them without removing the wheels?

Mine was on the side of one of the coils, you maybe able to see it without removing wheels depending which way it is facing.

I just found out I have Kings Superlows all round!! No wonder my front measurement is so low.

I had a couple of wheels off today & saw the part numbers on the springs. KCFL-24SL front & KCRL-25SL rear. (The SL denotes Superlow)

The dealer had my springs fitted before delivery & I always thought I had lows. :nuts:



having been watching this thread but not commenting i just had a look at mine and ive got the same as Foozcool and mines sitting at about 160mm from the part in front of the front wheel. thats with 20" wheels tho. I am wanting to lower mine heaps more, whta would be the way to go for me as its sitting way to high for my liking....



Kif

having been watching this thread but not commenting i just had a look at mine and ive got the same as Foozcool and mines sitting at about 160mm from the part in front of the front wheel. thats with 20" wheels tho. I am wanting to lower mine heaps more, whta would be the way to go for me as its sitting way to high for my liking....



Kif
About the only option you would have would be to get custom coilovers made up. No one does them off the shelf for the 380.

has anyone done coilovers in their 380???

has anyone done coilovers in their 380???

Short answer NO lol

If you would like to pioneer this I'm sure there will be more to follow you on your pilgramage :ninja:

ok so where do i go and what do i say when i get to the place???? i wanna investigate this further might be the only way i can get closer to the floor with out cutting my springs

ok so where do i go and what do i say when i get to the place???? i wanna investigate this further might be the only way i can get closer to the floor with out cutting my springs


Ok need to hook up to the US galant sites to start with

get in touch with some suspension places too

Heasmann Steering are big with Bilstien try them too

ok so where do i go and what do i say when i get to the place???? i wanna investigate this further might be the only way i can get closer to the floor with out cutting my springs

To tell you the truth I had the coilover seed planted in my brain today by another member but I have more urgent things to attend to like brakes & tyres. :hmm:

I know this place is in QLD http://www.shockreco.com.au/ but these are the people who I have spoken too about modifying my current shocks. Do a search & I'm sure you will find someone down your way. Any large suspension place (not small retail fitter outlet) should be able to help, I once years ago had Fulcrum Suspensions up here make me some coilovers out of my old 260Z struts. I'm talking 20 years here & I have no recolection of the price so don't ask. Let us all know your progress if you go this route as like I said, I'm sure there will be other interested parties :happy:

Ok need to hook up to the US galant sites to start with

get in touch with some suspension places too

Heasmann Steering are big with Bilstien try them too

There are no coilovers for the US Galant, they make them for the Eclipse which should fit but as far as I know no Galant driver has done a fitment over concerns that the Galant is heavier than the Eclipse.

Yeah I could not remember (its been awhile since I popped over the Pacific) if it had been done

Kif, Heasmann Steering is in St Peters

http://www.bilstein.com.au/

Yeah I could not remember (its been awhile since I popped over the Pacific) if it had been done

Kif, Heasmann Steering is in St Peters

http://www.bilstein.com.au/

Just had a look at the link & yeah those guys sound good, might be a good starting point & if they can't do it I'm sure they could recommend someone that will.

Re the Galant guys, they seem to much more worse off than we are at getting parts for their Galants. Think yourself lucky we have 380's & live in Australia with our pissy aftermarket sales support lol

Just had a look at the link & yeah those guys sound good, might be a good starting point & if they can't do it I'm sure they could recommend someone that will.

Re the Galant guys, they seem to much more worse off than we are at getting parts for their Galants. Think yourself lucky we have 380's & live in Australia with our pissy aftermarket sales support lol

Yeah but they have so many wrecks I asked for a set of rear tailights from a GTS/Ralliart was quoted 100 bucks for the PAIR!!!!!! But NO SHIPPING internationally

thanks Mecha. just sent them an email, hopefully i hear something from them tomorrow sometime

thanks Mecha. just sent them an email, hopefully i hear something from them tomorrow sometime

they will probably want you to come in and do measurements ETC

now if that happens let me know cause they could probably look at doing nolathane bushes and gear for us too

yer mate for sure will keep everyone updated as soon as i hear anything relative

We've measured from different places.

My clearance from the outer rear edge (i.e. just in front of the tyre) is 170mm.

So I suppose my first measurement (middle of the front bar, under the numberplate) wasn't really the lowest point at all.

We really need two measurements - one from the lowest point at the front/middle of the bar and one from the outer edge immediately in front of the tyre.

But going with the outer edge measurement there still seems to be 35mm more clearance with the base model bar compared to the GT/VRX/GT bar.

KJ

Hi,
I found this an interesting thread because I get way to much wheelspin at take off (even with new tyres) and thought lowering might help.
but after checking the measurements on my stock (I am assuming this as I'm the 2nd owner, till I get a wheel off I won't know) 2007 SX III, they are almost exactly the same as your DB with the lower springs.
I actually measured 168 in front of the left wheel, found that a bit odd , so I measured the right as well .. was 175mm! :eek2:, no big deal I guess, but I decided to go with under the number plate for a consensus which was 210mm at the rear edge of the spoiler (your spoiler is differnt though isn't it?).

Point is , I don't want to be tearing spoilers off (been there , didn't like), but this wheel spin is annoying me (yes... I know if I raise my right foot slightly it will go away ;))

Cheers,
RG

I've recently had Kings lows fitted and my measurement from that point is 160mm.
Regarding wheel spin.... I am as heavy footed as they come but I wouldnt get that amount of wheelspin regularly unless I was WOT from standstill.

mines on superlows and with the stock wheels on it still spins and ive got new tires on the GT rims throw the 20's back on that are 8.5 wide and dump it hardly any wheel spin depending on road surface

mines on superlows and with the stock wheels on it still spins and ive got new tires on the GT rims throw the 20's back on that are 8.5 wide and dump it hardly any wheel spin depending on road surface

Funny.. I hadn't actually thought of going up a tire size :drool:, I'm still running the stock 17's (although they are 8.4 wide, nearly as wide as your 20's). I guess if I upped the size an inch or two this would make takeoff harder and reduce the wheelspin, and then I'd also gain the benefit of the longer legs, although I presume my top-end power issues would worsen and my speedo would be a bit out?

I've recently had Kings lows fitted and my measurement from that point is 160mm.
Regarding wheel spin.... I am as heavy footed as they come but I wouldnt get that amount of wheelspin regularly unless I was WOT from standstill.

I am actually mostly referring to issues with WOT from standstill , but it is a helluva lot of spin that goes on for way too long before it bites. Although the TC in this car is the best and least invasive I've personally driven, (that CAN bus seems to be working a treat), I'd still rather not wake it up (or turn it off, every time) quite so much. Did you have any trouble like this before the lows?

I found the stock 17s were terrible for traction.

Once going to bigger wheels and wider tyres (245) you can decide when you want to break traction rather than not having the choice.

I found the stock 17s were terrible for traction.

Once going to bigger wheels and wider tyres (245) you can decide when you want to break traction rather than not having the choice.

Try telling my 245 tyres that! Anything over 2/3 throttle at take off and it's wheelspin city.

KJ.

I found the stock 17s were terrible for traction.

Once going to bigger wheels and wider tyres (245) you can decide when you want to break traction rather than not having the choice.

Says who :P

Yeah, OK you smartasses!

I meant "decide - with your right foot"!

Funny.. I hadn't actually thought of going up a tire size :drool:, I'm still running the stock 17's (although they are 8.4 wide, nearly as wide as your 20's). I guess if I upped the size an inch or two this would make takeoff harder and reduce the wheelspin, and then I'd also gain the benefit of the longer legs, although I presume my top-end power issues would worsen and my speedo would be a bit out?

i think my seedo is spot on or exact. never been dione by any cameras on the way tio Melb. there are some speed readers just over the boarder and there apparantly spot on drivien besides the citroen C4 and the new honda civics with the big digital speedo and comparing it to what mine was reading and it was the same.... my over all diameter of wheel size is almost the same when i stand the 20" wheel besides the 17" with a bigger profile tire....just gotta get it LOWER now thinking to re set my superlows soon