For all of those looking at turbo / supercharging your magnas, have you considered W2A intercooling, what are the benefits / negatves associated with this?

It seems to me that it would be a good no attention option for decreasing intake temps considerably?

it seems reasonably cheap also..


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EZBoy has a laminova core I think... and Apricot Rocket bought two of them the other day

for those members then, howd you go with the intake temps? much different, from what i understand you need the core and then somehow to pump the water through them 'radiator'?

im not actually planning on doing this, its just a 'i want to learn about this' sorta thing :)

basically the reverse of a radiator... air goes through fins inside the core, water gets pumped through and around the fins on the inside.

They have a few benifits, they are more compact and more discreet under the bonnet rather than a big cooler in the front bar that stands out.

The intake path is much shorter and improves throttle response and reduces turbo lag.

Down side i guess they are more complex to install as you need the core, radiator, pump and somekind of control valve i think.

As for performance im not too sure which cools better, i think water will 'consume' alot more heat from your inlet than air of the same capacity.

They have a few benifits, they are more compact and more discreet under the bonnet rather than a big cooler in the front bar that stands out.

The intake path is much shorter and improves throttle response and reduces turbo lag.

Down side i guess they are more complex to install as you need the core, radiator, pump and somekind of control valve i think.

As for performance im not too sure which cools better, i think water will 'consume' alot more heat from your inlet than air of the same capacity.

that is true, but it then comes down to the ability of the w2a radiator to disapate that heat from the water, other wise, as like my brothers case, with bad performance from his w2a rad, once fully warm unless driving on the freeway for extended periods, his w2a core acts as a heater core for the inlet charge (rarely drops below 80degrees), where as my old crappy hybrid core FMIC used to give me rouglhy the same temp drop all day in nearly all conditions, granted it wasnt as good at startup as my brothers w2a (due to a full night to cool down)

I have been running one for 4 months now and they are brilliant i got mine from Frozen Boost from the states.

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And my Pump
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lynel - I think your brothers water reserve was too low (as in, the total capacity of water the system held was not enough).

For daily driving - W2A is a lot better, depending on how well its set up ofcourse. It can cool the intake charge while you are standing still.

For track work, front mount is better - as the more air it sees the better it cools. W2A in this case will heat up and will not be as efficient.

BJEOS35212

how much did that wta setup cost you from frozen boost?>

I run W2A intercooler also, works great, I think they are more efficient than the air/air intercooling alot of track cars seem to be using them with success now also..

BJEOS35212

how much did that wta setup cost you from frozen boost?>

I got it when the $AUD was good but the kit costs around $280 USD

LINK TO KIT (http://www.frozenboost.com/product_info.php?cPath=216&products_id=1034&osCsid=cef1c39359301609753798539b7bf081)

mmmm Laminova cores are sexy. Only got them the other day and now have to work out a set up that will work.
Liverpool if you didnt know aparently some Cadilac's come with Laminovas fitted from factory as well as some Saturns. I will stand corrected on this but i also think SAAB have used them b4 and some other European manufacturers.
Hopefully i will get aorund to posting up a pic of the cores tonight in my ride thread.

The Celica GT4 used a W2A intercooler

so do the old liberty RS'

i think its a great idea for the magna's which have FI, still, the pistons could be a weak point :(

lynel - I think your brothers water reserve was too low (as in, the total capacity of water the system held was not enough).

For track work, front mount is better - as the more air it sees the better it cools. W2A in this case will heat up and will not be as efficient.

certainly is the case, when he brough his he optioned for the 'small' package, space was an issue already and he didnt want to buy something that wouldnt physically fit, he is paying for it now though. In hindsight he should have got them to fit, as then they could have fitted a better cooling system for it. His car wasnt even extreme, just a 4g63T running ~16pound

certainly is the case, when he brough his he optioned for the 'small' package, space was an issue already and he didnt want to buy something that wouldnt physically fit, he is paying for it now though. In hindsight he should have got them to fit, as then they could have fitted a better cooling system for it. His car wasnt even extreme, just a 4g63T running ~16pound

really the W2A have a front mount radiator seeing the fresh air with pretty good temp drops, so i dont see how heat soak could be a big factor.

the w2a 'rad' that was supplied looks very muhc like an oil cooler core... go figure.