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Sonic
20-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Im having problems, when acclerating hard on a round about the engine seems like its going to stall, the car shakes then it takes off. Just wondering if anyone can help me with this problem?

Thanks

parker
20-07-2009, 08:44 AM
Sounds like it could be the TCL doin its normal thing (depending on how hard and fast your trying to go in a roundabout)

vlad
20-07-2009, 08:57 AM
How much fuel was in the tank at the time? Could be fuel starvation if tank was very low.

Sonic
20-07-2009, 09:01 AM
Pardon my Ignorance but do you mean the traction control? If so mitsubishi have said that my car does not have traction control.

Sonic
20-07-2009, 09:01 AM
I have a full tank.

Sonic
20-07-2009, 09:03 AM
Its also an auto.

Disciple
20-07-2009, 11:14 AM
Could be plugs or leads.

Lugo
20-07-2009, 11:31 AM
I thought traction control was standard on all tw's? Do you have a button labeled TLC on your cluster surround?

Blue Lightning
20-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Traction / Trace Control was only standard on the "upper" TW models (aka VR-X and Veradas) no traction / trace control on the AWD's either. (don't need it)

Sonic
20-07-2009, 11:49 AM
no mate

Sonic
20-07-2009, 11:51 AM
just got the car back from mitsubishi and he tells me that there is nothing wrong with the car that i must be a hoon

Disciple
20-07-2009, 12:02 PM
just got the car back from mitsubishi and he tells me that there is nothing wrong with the car that i must be a hoon

How helpful. :roll:

Take a plug out and see how they look. Maybe replace the leads too - how many kms on the car? Has it been serviced properly?

Sonic
20-07-2009, 12:10 PM
Yeah just had the leads and plugs changed its on 66 400 kms so its hardly done anything, im lost

Lucifer
20-07-2009, 12:10 PM
Sounds like fueling... mine does it when the tank is almost empty sometimes... In my old TR it used to do it heaps. Check fuel filter and pump maybe...

Disciple
20-07-2009, 12:12 PM
As above, next step is check fuel. If it's not that maybe check for air leaks.

Sonic
20-07-2009, 12:27 PM
what would cause a slight suction noise inside the car when accelerating?

Disciple
20-07-2009, 12:37 PM
what would cause a slight suction noise inside the car when accelerating?

Obvious questions - do you have a POD filter or K&N panel filter? Check throttle body connection, MAF connection and other air hoses.

Sonic
20-07-2009, 12:46 PM
everything is standard atm

SH00T
20-07-2009, 07:32 PM
Does it take off again when the wheel is straight? Or does it seem like it refuses to cog down until the wheel is nearly straight?

Sonic
21-07-2009, 08:45 AM
i honestly dont know from memory its when i staighten the wheel

SH00T
21-07-2009, 07:11 PM
I found a really strong reluctance to cog down a gear when preessed in a corner, its like it's progammed into the thing so she wont kick down in a corner. I'm not sure if they have the sensors/hardware and programming for this or not. Some cars prevent kick down at heavy accel through a corner, but I don't know about these cars/models...
Sure feels like it though.... Explanations Please....

Sonic
24-07-2009, 07:49 AM
Ok i have just taken it back to mitsubishi and taken the service manager and gm for a drive and the car did it 3 out of 3 goes, so they now know what it is and they can see it, yeeaaahhh

Disciple
24-07-2009, 01:51 PM
Ok i have just taken it back to mitsubishi and taken the service manager and gm for a drive and the car did it 3 out of 3 goes, so they now know what it is and they can see it, yeeaaahhh
What was their explanation or thoughts as to what the problem is?

Sonic
24-07-2009, 02:08 PM
They thinks its the fuel pump, so they have orderd one. So lets hope so

Disciple
24-07-2009, 02:37 PM
They thinks its the fuel pump, so they have orderd one. So lets hope so

Fuel pump eh... Keep us posted mate. I'm interested to see the results.

gtrtwinturbo
25-07-2009, 08:36 PM
ok still fairly new to magnas but i swear i read somewhere that the autos right back to tj or earlier?? had a kind of tc where when going round a corner the ecm cuts power to the engine so not to lose control????
could be pulling stuff out my a*^???????????????????????????

VRX257
26-07-2009, 09:25 PM
I have switched off traction control before, with at least half a tank of petrol and it does it especially when i do a hard right. It should not cut power when TCL is off!!!! It is worse when running less than 1/4 tank.

Its apparently quite a standard thing. There are heaps of posts here about it.

MitchellO
26-07-2009, 09:32 PM
ok still fairly new to magnas but i swear i read somewhere that the autos right back to tj or earlier?? had a kind of tc where when going round a corner the ecm cuts power to the engine so not to lose control????
could be pulling stuff out my a*^???????????????????????????

TC (Traction/Trace Control) was introduced on the KH Verada, and into the Magna range in the TJ Sports/VR-X autos.

Jasons VRX
26-07-2009, 09:36 PM
TC (Traction/Trace Control) was introduced on the KH Verada, and into the Magna range in the TJ Sports/VR-X autos.

Traction/trace control was also fitted to the Auto TH sports

Annese
26-07-2009, 11:00 PM
It should not cut power when TCL is off!!!! It is worse when running less than 1/4 tank.

Mate if it gets worse when you dont have much petrol in the tank, it sounds a lot more like fuel starvation than TCL

Disciple
27-07-2009, 06:21 AM
I have switched off traction control before, with at least half a tank of petrol and it does it especially when i do a hard right. It should not cut power when TCL is off!!!! It is worse when running less than 1/4 tank.

Its apparently quite a standard thing. There are heaps of posts here about it.


Mate if it gets worse when you dont have much petrol in the tank, it sounds a lot more like fuel starvation than TCL

:stoopid:

Sounds like fuel starvation mate, not traction control.

Sonic
27-07-2009, 01:38 PM
just wondering if it would be the computer? i guess i will have to wait and see

VRX257
27-07-2009, 08:51 PM
Mate if it gets worse when you dont have much petrol in the tank, it sounds a lot more like fuel starvation than TCL

I know that,(the effects are attenuated more by having less petrol),

but TCL set to "OFF" with more than half tank and it still does it. Wheater I have fuel or not, traction "ON" or "OFF" it just does it anyway. Just like the rocking driver seat, just like the very cold start tappetty sounds, just like the climate control that has a mind of its own to re-circulating cabin air. Its just a TL/TW Magna feature.

But i still love driving it.

Sonic
04-08-2009, 09:01 AM
Guess what, they replaced the fuel pump and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, It still does the same thing. Ive dropped the car back there today. I believe its the computer as when they re set the idol it was great for a couple of days then it went back to doing the same thing, it's like it dosnt hold the memory and its gone back to factory settings.

Magna///Art
04-08-2009, 10:20 AM
My TW does the same thing, it is fuel starvation from what I have heard, the standard pump can not keep up with harsh cornering (Someone correct me if I'm wrong) the more direct you are with your cornering the better though and you should bypass the problem. :)

Dave
04-08-2009, 10:49 AM
Could still be electrical even if spark plugs and leads are ok. Could be a loose connection somewhere that is affected when cornering (something moving with g-forces). Checked the alternator and batt terminals?

Blue Lightning
04-08-2009, 11:12 AM
No fuel starvation problems with a AWD TW when cornering. :woot: But it does have a different shaped tank. I read somewhere in a review of the Ralliart that they had a slightly different "baffled" fuel tank to prevent fuel stavation. Maybe this might be the answer??

Sonic
05-08-2009, 12:22 PM
They have had the car for two days its still playing up for them, but they can't find the cause. So its going back there for 3 days next week. Not happy jan, this is costing a shitload in petrol, and time. I let them know to check the electrical system as has been brought up, he just looked at me and said its a bloody big system. So i hope they can find the cause shortly as i just want it fixed, I must admit i am happy with the fact that they just want to fix it also.

Dave
05-08-2009, 03:26 PM
They have had the car for two days its still playing up for them, but they can't find the cause. So its going back there for 3 days next week. Not happy jan, this is costing a shitload in petrol, and time. I let them know to check the electrical system as has been brought up, he just looked at me and said its a bloody big system. So i hope they can find the cause shortly as i just want it fixed, I must admit i am happy with the fact that they just want to fix it also.

tell the idiots to start with the easy things first then...

Sonic
07-08-2009, 06:55 AM
Just wondering also because they cant find the problem and they have the car alot using my petrol, as its under warranty am i able to hit them up to put some petrol in the car for me at there expense ?

Sonic
19-08-2009, 12:36 PM
Ok the have taken the ecu out and are sending it to brisbane to be checked, so i wont have my car back for a least another week, where do i stand if they cant fix the problem, what options do i have?

dave_au
19-08-2009, 02:35 PM
Just a thought, if it's still suffering from this problem after all of these fixes have been attempted, I recommend that you catch up with another AMC 3rd Gen owner in your area and show them the problem. This could very well be from fuel starvation and the lack of baffelling in the fuel tank; Ralliarts had a different fuel tank design for this very reason.

Mr_Roberto
19-08-2009, 05:47 PM
My TW does the same thing, it is fuel starvation from what I have heard, the standard pump can not keep up with harsh cornering (Someone correct me if I'm wrong) the more direct you are with your cornering the better though and you should bypass the problem. :)
the pumps not the problem, its the design of the tank

Sonic
21-08-2009, 04:36 PM
just got my car back and they seem to of fixed it, yeehhh the was nothing wrong with the computer they said. so lets hope that its fixed.

Jeromy's Magnet
26-08-2009, 07:22 PM
I have the same problem with my 05 TW, mostly when i take a right on a roundabout i lose power untill i correct the wheel.

if it is fixed please give us a report so i can get mine fixed at the dealership, or maybe wait to buy a new ecu... haltech maybe

Sonic
23-09-2009, 09:41 AM
Hey mate it's still doing it. They are still working on my car. They have been told tho that every tw has the same problem. Im guessing i just have to wait and see.