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bugger, I've already got one of them :) How much just out of interest?

Anything else Michael?

... any more engines?

any sunglasses holders :P

is it chrome or black?

no other stuff....no engines...no sunglass holders and its BLACK

How much la?

IF not selling, many more of them there..?

Thx
Ben

no other stuff....no engines...no sunglass holders and its BLACK

None that are for sale to the general public anyway ;)

I'm not general, so what's the price?

I'm not general, so what's the price?

How much u wanna pay me? The only one is for my new project

Probably more than what you paid for it but less than you'd consider to sell it for.

Was reading on MCA & a member picked up a whole 380 auto front cut with 40,000km on it for $1000.

*jizzes pants*

No, not really, I'm not that obsessed. That'd be brilliant. Have you got any more info on that one? A link, contact details for someone I can harass?

*jizzes pants*

No, not really, I'm not that obsessed. That'd be brilliant. Have you got any more info on that one? A link, contact details for someone I can harass?

Have a look on the MCA site in the 380 section, thread "Melbourne Parts", Z80 is the member to talk to.

Z80a is going to buy up all the ************* 380's

he has already got 4 plus the front cut

Z80a is going to buy up all the ************* 380's

he has already got 4 plus the front cut

I guess some one has to buy them up now, cos not many people wanted them when they were new lol

I sent him a PM asking about the engine or where he could recommend finding another, he didn't bother replying, just put this up on the forum -
Before people start making me offers on bits, my aim is to hang on to all these bits for a while until they are actually scarce.


What i meant was ask me in afew years if you get stuck and read this thread...LOL

I will still be looking out for another cuppla engine and transmissions myself.

At around a thousand dollars for a whole drivetrain its a bargain.
Not impressed. Let alone the totally illogical motivation behind hoarding said parts.

Like were gonna care about 380's in a few years! There's always a shiny better toy just around the corner! Is that the same guy that owns a few 380's that posted here? If you had that sort of money why buy multiple 380's for yourself(I don't care how cheap they were) unless I guess the whole family use them?

That's just it, it's a really, really odd choice of car to collect. Depending on where he bought them from and how old they were at time of purchase, I'm guessing he could have bought, say, a beautiful E92 335i coupe... but no, 4 380s.

Yeah each to there own I guess but alot of other stuff to choose from when you've got a bit of folding!As far as a collectable,can't see that myself,good car and all but i think more a recyclable than a collectable! Maybe a TMR but it would have to be put away for a looooooooooooooooooooooong time,and even then i dunno?

yer i wouldnt mind a cheap front cut for spares. $1000 is a bargain

I guess some one has to buy them up now, cos not many people wanted them when they were new lol

At least it was designed this century.

At least it was designed this century.As was his Falcon.

At least it was designed this century.

Yeah but they got the looks of a old dunnger from the 90's and they never sold as well as the older 3rd gen magnas (TE-TH)!

Hell i can still remember back to the days in 1997 when MMAL were working that much overtime building magna/veradas it wasnt funny......yet when the 380 was up and running they peaked at around 180 cars (?) a day build rate

The 380 was so good it really saved MMAL didnt it.....

Yeah but they got the looks of a old dunnger from the 90's and they never sold as well as the older 3rd gen magnas (TE-TH)!

Hell i can still remember back to the days in 1997 when MMAL were working that much overtime building magna/veradas it wasnt funny......yet when the 380 was up and running they peaked at around 180 cars (?) a day build rate

The 380 was so good it really saved MMAL didnt it.....

We've been there many times. MMAL was hamstrung in design by MMC. You know all this.
Get over it.
What do you want all the current 380 owners to do? Sell them and buy Fords?

We've been there many times. MMAL was hamstrung in design by MMC. You know all this.
Get over it.
What do you want all the current 380 owners to do? Sell them and buy Fords?

Did i bloody say that? NO. All i said was some one has to buy all the wrecked ones as hardly anyone did when they were new....

And one day the 380 owners will have to update.....

I guess some one has to buy them up now, cos not many people wanted them when they were new lol



There is a new front wheel drive Falcon 4 cylinder coming soon.

Hope that helps Ford Australia..


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There is a new front wheel drive Falcon 4 cylinder coming soon.

Hope that helps Ford Australia..


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Well you have just proved how silly some people are.... :nuts: Maybe you should actually find out/do some research on the facts before posting garbage?

The 4cylinder "ecoboost" falcon will be RWD, it will be the first RWD application of fords new turbo direct injected "ecoboost" 4 cylinder engine in a large Ford RWD car (Ford USA will use it in there FWD and AWD cars)

The current inline 6 and its turbo version are still going to be made and sold along side the 4c ylinder turbo version.

ANYWAY back on topic now :)

Thanks for the warm welcome.



Please provide a link anywhere in the world where the "econoboost" engines are currently used in a RWD platform?


Here is one from Australia to get you started...

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=56455



By the way here is a 380 engine...http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1059287&highlight=deer+park#post1059287


post 7.

And one day the 380 owners will have to update.....

Yes, we will and so will all the 3rd Genners.

Jason,

This is totally OFT but there's no other way since you don't take PMs...

I read your words and the frustration, disappointment and anger hammers at me from the screen.
I am betting everytime you look at a 380 it just twists the knife. To know that you were a part of MMAL when the Magna TE series entered into a different paradigm and beat the opposition hands down. When the motoring rags gave it Car of the Year even though it was FWD. When the Ralliart came out and Motor tested it against the XR6 and the Commode S and said it was the best, the whole company must have felt like NASA in 1969.
When I saw the KE I was to own for nearly ten years, I was just stoked. It seemed even BMW-esque with the headlight treatment. The 3.5 litre was a far better engine than the 3.8litre Buick that I'd had and the car oozed class and build quality.
So the expectation must have been so high in the early 2000's for MMAL workers for a new platform that would really build on the success of the Magna. Well, I can only imagine what you and others must have felt as the plans for the P41 were paired back, the concept art put back in the cupboard and the Yank pig front end given to the designers to Australianise...
So we got a car in 2005 that was borrowed rather than home grown and had many compromises - ride height too high, front styling- let's not talk about it...engine 175 KW for all - when it could have been 185/190 for GT, etc...we've talked about them all.
The 380 wasn't the car many of us expected. It was MMC's throw away to Australia because head office was scared after the Great Mitsubishi Brake Fiasco. No way was MMAL going to be allowed to risk the brand with something not totally under the thumb.

So maybe there is some pain there for what could have been. Particularly when you guys had already shown what could be done and it was squandered and ignored.

But, look, the 380 is a good car. Really.
It's not the best it could've been and it doesn't beat what the opposition brought out - but it's still a good car.

When I drive my car, I can still feel some of that MMAL expertise, some of what was accomplished in those years.
It comes out in the handling of the 380; someone must have done some very, very good work to achieve such a balance. The chassis wasn't compromised with fold down seats (even tho I really wanted that). The transmission is excellent. The engine - yes, i know, the conrods are too thin and the pistons are short skirted - but the heads are good, the ignition packs and software is good. The engine feels bullet proof. You know i was running it into the 5000's at around 600-800km on the clock...You have to admit it could achieve some very good hp.
The seating and controls are really good and it feels very....Magna.

People are starting to realise that now. The tiny band of 380 brothers is expanding and a lot of those have come from some very good cars. There is no reason to buy a cheap 380 unless it has something to offer, there's plenty of choice out there second hand.

So, we all know the story, maybe not the emotion you and other ex MMAL have gone thru.
But the Magna and MMAL isn't dead in the 380. Far from it.

Please cut us some slack here. I doubt you will ever like the car but it's still part of the family and we would really wish you to support us a little. We can take the ribbing and the sledging but don't shut us out.

Yes, we will and so will all the 3rd Genners.

Jason,

This is totally OFT but there's no other way since you don't take PMs...

I read your words and the frustration, disappointment and anger hammers at me from the screen.
I am betting everytime you look at a 380 it just twists the knife. To know that you were a part of MMAL when the Magna TE series entered into a different paradigm and beat the opposition hands down. When the motoring rags gave it Car of the Year even though it was FWD. When the Ralliart came out and Motor tested it against the XR6 and the Commode S and said it was the best, the whole company must have felt like NASA in 1969.
When I saw the KE I was to own for nearly ten years, I was just stoked. It seemed even BMW-esque with the headlight treatment. The 3.5 litre was a far better engine than the 3.8litre Buick that I'd had and the car oozed class and build quality.
So the expectation must have been so high in the early 2000's for MMAL workers for a new platform that would really build on the success of the Magna. Well, I can only imagine what you and others must have felt as the plans for the P41 were paired back, the concept art put back in the cupboard and the Yank pig front end given to the designers to Australianise...
So we got a car in 2005 that was borrowed rather than home grown and had many compromises - ride height too high, front styling- let's not talk about it...engine 175 KW for all - when it could have been 185/190 for GT, etc...we've talked about them all.
The 380 wasn't the car many of us expected. It was MMC's throw away to Australia because head office was scared after the Great Mitsubishi Brake Fiasco. No way was MMAL going to be allowed to risk the brand with something not totally under the thumb.

So maybe there is some pain there for what could have been. Particularly when you guys had already shown what could be done and it was squandered and ignored.

But, look, the 380 is a good car. Really.
It's not the best it could've been and it doesn't beat what the opposition brought out - but it's still a good car.

When I drive my car, I can still feel some of that MMAL expertise, some of what was accomplished in those years.
It comes out in the handling of the 380; someone must have done some very, very good work to achieve such a balance. The chassis wasn't compromised with fold down seats (even tho I really wanted that). The transmission is excellent. The engine - yes, i know, the conrods are too thin and the pistons are short skirted - but the heads are good, the ignition packs and software is good. The engine feels bullet proof. You know i was running it into the 5000's at around 600-800km on the clock...You have to admit it could achieve some very good hp.
The seating and controls are really good and it feels very....Magna.

People are starting to realise that now. The tiny band of 380 brothers is expanding and a lot of those have come from some very good cars. There is no reason to buy a cheap 380 unless it has something to offer, there's plenty of choice out there second hand.

So, we all know the story, maybe not the emotion you and other ex MMAL have gone thru.
But the Magna and MMAL isn't dead in the 380. Far from it.

Please cut us some slack here. I doubt you will ever like the car but it's still part of the family and we would really wish you to support us a little. We can take the ribbing and the sledging but don't shut us out.

My post was all in good fun.

What you have said is fairly close to the mark.

Just before the 380 (and before people on here knew its model names and specs) was released i posted up the model names and the power/torque figures ONLY to be flamed down by people on here saying that i was wrong blah blah blah.

MMAL is indeed going thru hard times as are all car companies (GM and Chrysler more so) There was news today about mitsubishi sales being down 52% on last years firgures world wide, that is not good considering they have a fairly good small/medium car range and good 4wd's. I think if MMAL was here making cars today they would be bleeding alot more money than they did during the boom times of the past few years.

I made many good mates and enjoyed my years working for MMAL, its a pity the japs held us back but i guess thats what they have always been like.... I know for a fact that they didnt like it when our cars were built to a higher standard than theres, i was even on the project for 3 weeks where they stripped down a X60 wagon (aussie built for japan) and a jap built diamante only to have the aussie built car come out a fair way infront in its build quality. They were indeed p*ssed off lol

Oh and i do take PM's.... So i dont know what your meaning with that :)

Thanks for the warm welcome.



Please provide a link anywhere in the world where the "econoboost" engines are currently used in a RWD platform?


Here is one from Australia to get you started...

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=56455



By the way here is a 380 engine...http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1059287&highlight=deer+park#post1059287


post 7.

DID YOU READ MY POST????

Australia will be the FIRST application of the "ecoboost" 4 cylinder in a RWD car, that car being the Ford Falcon.

THis was announced last week to the motoring press, there is even a thread on here about it (type40 posted it up)

You can get a 380 at auction for 12000 dollars last week at Fowles in Altona....no kidding.

One even had the sat nav DVD option...and less than 70,000 k's.

Ocassionally they have one with under 20,000 k's.

For around 15000 you can get a VRX with about 80,000k's.

Who cares why MMAL pulled the pin...the cars are bargains.

i'd care fi i bought a brand new one!

You can get a 380 at auction for 12000 dollars last week at Fowles in Altona....no kidding.

One even had the sat nav DVD option...and less than 70,000 k's.

Ocassionally they have one with under 20,000 k's.

For around 15000 you can get a VRX with about 80,000k's.

Who cares why MMAL pulled the pin...the cars are bargains.

Magnas and the 380 have always been a bargin secondhand, there low prices help get people into a car that they wouldnt normally buy or normally couldnt afford.

Oh and Blackstar here is the link to the RWD ecoboost announcment: http://www.themotorreport.com.au/38133/ford-abandons-local-focus-in-favour-of-ecoboost-four-cylinder-falcon-and-diesel-territory/

Oh and a lot of us DO care why MMAL pulled the pin because we lost our jobs there, doing what we enjoyed.

Sure thing Jason....post as many links as you like...it's all pie in the sky....and not set in concrete yet.

Just like the plans of exporting the Focus globally....phhht...all gone ...

Ford are doing the MMAL thing all over again in my opinion.


Big export plans with a rising Aussie dollar...currently 83cents/US1.00


Remember the Diamante exports?

Some people attribute the Magnas success to some engineering feat...

But,sorry mate, even a drovers' dog could have sold aussie built Magnas when the dollar was at 0.48c to the US dollar in 2001/2002.

MMAL was used as cheap labour for the yank market.

You have to give MMAL credit, they pulled out before all the GFC crap set in, they got a good price for all the plant and equipment and paid out their staff generously.

The HOLDEN/FORD mob still think there is no problem and that they are somehow immune....



I don't know anyone who has bought a new Holden or Ford recently....or intends to.

Reason? too damned thirsty.

yeah me the lease is finishing soon on the 380 and a FPV or territory is on the cards. everyone at work reckons im crazy but i still think modern V8's are fuel efficient



You might want to spend some time on the Ford forums before you commit.

Be prepared for some "interesting" warranty issues.

Territory? How's 5k's a litre grab you? (20L/100km)

oh and i have 2 govt fuel cards :woot:


oooh...you are a lucky man.

Why 2 fuel cards?...LOL

Yes, we will and so will all the 3rd Genners.

Jason,

This is totally OFT but there's no other way since you don't take PMs...

I read your words and the frustration, disappointment and anger hammers at me from the screen.
I am betting everytime you look at a 380 it just twists the knife. To know that you were a part of MMAL when the Magna TE series entered into a different paradigm and beat the opposition hands down. When the motoring rags gave it Car of the Year even though it was FWD. When the Ralliart came out and Motor tested it against the XR6 and the Commode S and said it was the best, the whole company must have felt like NASA in 1969.
When I saw the KE I was to own for nearly ten years, I was just stoked. It seemed even BMW-esque with the headlight treatment. The 3.5 litre was a far better engine than the 3.8litre Buick that I'd had and the car oozed class and build quality.
So the expectation must have been so high in the early 2000's for MMAL workers for a new platform that would really build on the success of the Magna. Well, I can only imagine what you and others must have felt as the plans for the P41 were paired back, the concept art put back in the cupboard and the Yank pig front end given to the designers to Australianise...
So we got a car in 2005 that was borrowed rather than home grown and had many compromises - ride height too high, front styling- let's not talk about it...engine 175 KW for all - when it could have been 185/190 for GT, etc...we've talked about them all.
The 380 wasn't the car many of us expected. It was MMC's throw away to Australia because head office was scared after the Great Mitsubishi Brake Fiasco. No way was MMAL going to be allowed to risk the brand with something not totally under the thumb.

So maybe there is some pain there for what could have been. Particularly when you guys had already shown what could be done and it was squandered and ignored.

But, look, the 380 is a good car. Really.
It's not the best it could've been and it doesn't beat what the opposition brought out - but it's still a good car.

When I drive my car, I can still feel some of that MMAL expertise, some of what was accomplished in those years.
It comes out in the handling of the 380; someone must have done some very, very good work to achieve such a balance. The chassis wasn't compromised with fold down seats (even tho I really wanted that). The transmission is excellent. The engine - yes, i know, the conrods are too thin and the pistons are short skirted - but the heads are good, the ignition packs and software is good. The engine feels bullet proof. You know i was running it into the 5000's at around 600-800km on the clock...You have to admit it could achieve some very good hp.
The seating and controls are really good and it feels very....Magna.

People are starting to realise that now. The tiny band of 380 brothers is expanding and a lot of those have come from some very good cars. There is no reason to buy a cheap 380 unless it has something to offer, there's plenty of choice out there second hand.

So, we all know the story, maybe not the emotion you and other ex MMAL have gone thru.
But the Magna and MMAL isn't dead in the 380. Far from it.

Please cut us some slack here. I doubt you will ever like the car but it's still part of the family and we would really wish you to support us a little. We can take the ribbing and the sledging but don't shut us out.

:bowdown: could not have said it better myself Knotched. I agree to a T!

oooh...you are a lucky man.

Why 2 fuel cards?...LOL

cos hes dodgy as shit :P

(or cos he works for the airforce/navy.army or something)

oh and i have 2 govt fuel cards :woot:stop wasting my tax dorras kthxbai

Sure thing Jason....post as many links as you like...it's all pie in the sky....and not set in concrete yet.

Just like the plans of exporting the Focus globally....phhht...all gone ...

Ford are doing the MMAL thing all over again in my opinion.


Big export plans with a rising Aussie dollar...currently 83cents/US1.00


Remember the Diamante exports?

Some people attribute the Magnas success to some engineering feat...

But,sorry mate, even a drovers' dog could have sold aussie built Magnas when the dollar was at 0.48c to the US dollar in 2001/2002.

MMAL was used as cheap labour for the yank market.

You have to give MMAL credit, they pulled out before all the GFC crap set in, they got a good price for all the plant and equipment and paid out their staff generously.

The HOLDEN/FORD mob still think there is no problem and that they are somehow immune....



I don't know anyone who has bought a new Holden or Ford recently....or intends to.

Reason? too damned thirsty.

I have a uncle who works in powertrain development for Ford, so i get a pretty good idea on what they are going to be doing, the average worker wouldnt have a clue (much like the average line worker at MMAL didnt have any idea on where the place was headed etc)

Just to clear up the diamante sales thing. 1997/98 (AE/AF models) was the bumper years for there sales in the USA not 2001/2002, in 1997 we worked as much OT as we wanted, hell myself and others worked 7days a week for a few months straight helping to get the cars out of "E" status and thru QA and out to outer harbour for shipment.

As for MMAL plant/equipment sales, they didnt get all that good a prices and they are still yet to sell the massive one sided panel press and other major equipment as they are awaiting better prices than whats been offered currently.

As for buying a new Holden/Ford, well ive just bought a new Turbo falcon (ZF Auto) and im finding the fuel comsumption pretty bloody good for the performance that it gives. My daily drive to work and back is netting me in the mid 10's per 100kms, on a trip they drop to low 9's. Thats about the same as i used to get from my MPS3 and very comparable to my modded magna.

ANyway lets get back on topic, IF you want to discuss the things above, then PM me as im sure people on here arnt interested all that much in what holden or ford have up there sleeves.