Hey I have had this prob for a bit.

I know the oil drain plug takes a 24 mm sock, problem it is so shallow that I can't get it to hold. I have tried to get it off with a foot long johnson bar with the socket and still no dice. I figured the last mech to do an oil change must have used an impact gun or some thing on it.

any idea's as to get this bugger off. I don't feel like paying 70-130 bucks for some thing as simple as an oil change.

thanks guys

Sean

go buy yourself
a new sump nut before doing anything else

after the motor cools
use a welder
a cold chisel and hammer

If you can get the plug off, go to the wreckers and get a whole new sump. (and get a new bolt and gasket). Drain the old sump by the hole punch method. Not the most ideal solution but none the less is a idea!

Because it's such a shallow bolt head, the taper at the ends of some sockets/spanners is enough to slip off, if you don't mind taking to your socket with a grinder you can grind the end down to get rid of the internal taper at the end. If you do it, take your time and try not to overheat it, you don't want to anneal your socket.

Also, if grip is an issue, try spreading some grinding paste on it, then have another go. The grit in the paste will provide a bit of extra grip. I use this trick often on phillips heads when the screwdriver just wants to slip.

Clamp onto it with vicegrips, nice and hard, and see if you can get it out that way.

Use a cold chisel and try to get it loosened off a bit by belting it at the edges to try and turn it anticlockwise, you don't want to tighten it more, so make sure you smack it the right way.

It might be a bit siezed, and a few good 'love taps' from a hammer might be enough to break it's hold on your sump

Failing all of the above, grind the paint off it and weld a nice thick piece of bar onto it, about an inch long, then take a good length of bar and weld that to the piece you welded on first (the first bit is just an extension), I'd weld the bar in the middle so you can turn it from both sides. Make sure the parts are clean because you want the welds to be strong. Then you just yell "STRENGTH OF A BEAR" while using every bit of strength you have, hopefully it will come undone.



Also, I think it's fair to say that you are going to need a new sump plug, so buy a new one before you start.
And when you put the new plug in, put some oil on the threads, it will help prevent it from siezing up.
And try to be clean, any dirt and grit, etc. that gets in the threads could well sieze it up.

Good luck mate, just keep trying and you should get it out eventually.

If you absolutely cannot remove it, go to the wrecker and buy a new sump, drain your oil by pinching holes in your sump, and replace it.


(sorry for repeating some stuff that's already been mentioned)

Far out - epic/awesomely good ideas in that post "wtp" !! Gonna have to get me some grinding paste, or pinch some of the old man's.

i was going to suggest a single hex socket and a 2' breaker bar and swing off it, but im assuming you dont have an easy way of getting the car up to the height to make that effective

Can you hunt down a 6-point socket for it? that way it reduces the chance of slipping

grind the taper off of the socket to get a better grip of the bolt.....maybe

Just get a 6 sided socket or 6 point as they are called, are a 24mm

That is the best way

i had to use a rattle gun on, the TR 4cly i've, got, my and my dad (were big blokes) couldn't even get it with a long peice of pipe on the end of the ratched.

we call them single hex. as opposed to double hex. but yeah same thing.

good idea guys, I will def get a new plug. and give it another shot. if not I will pay the extra 20 bucks and have a shop do the oil change and swap the plugs. I just wish i had some air tools.

Its so immasculating.lol

Then you just yell "STRENGTH OF A BEAR"
:facejump: Nice braveheart reference :eeek: hehe

Hey Nugget,

How did you go with the sump plug? I have the exact same issue as what you posted.

Just wondering what eventually you did that worked to remove the previous sump plug so that i too can remove the damn thing!

Cheers

Failing any of the above methods, try a plumber's wrench or an angle grinder. Once the head is cut thin, it will release easily. To avoid this problem, never overtorquw the bolt as it is then impossible to remove. 43 Nm IIRC , have a spare bolt and o ring in the car and replace if the bolt shows any damage. A single slip of the socket is enough to damage it.