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Whippy
31-07-2009, 05:52 PM
Hey Guys...

Ive been thinking about getting some new front speakers.. probably not splits... but maybe depending on cost...

but the question is.. What size are the front speakers? and how deep can they be?

also what size are the Tweeters in the verada speaker pods?

Mr_Roberto
31-07-2009, 06:01 PM
stock speakers are 6", can fit a 6.5" woffer no worries just need to drill new holes
depth i think is about 2 1/4" before it hits the glass, could always make a spacer tho
can fit a 1' tweeter in the tweeter pod

dreman
31-07-2009, 06:17 PM
can verada speaker pods be installed in a TF? The trangular covers on a TF look damn small though.

Elwyn
31-07-2009, 08:28 PM
I'd be amazed if Verada door tweeter pods didn't fit a TF.

Just gently lever under the edge of the triangular plastic cover, near the top and lever straight out...... if the plastic triangle falls away with one peg near the top and two tabs at the bottom edge - you are home and hosed. The plastic housing for tweeters sits there exactly the same way, just sits there!

The genuine tweeters have a metal bracket which attaches to two screws under that plastic cover, but many aftermarket (better, no doubt) tweets have been fitted (search for details of how others have done it - blu-tac, silastic, sikaflex - there probably isn't a way it hasn't been done).

In case you are inspired further, the "dash pods" in Verada are 3" mid-range drivers, and the Mitsi Clearance place in Adelaide did have heaps of "Infinity" speakers to fit in the dash which look a lot beefier than standard ones (but the Infinity ones didn't have the capacitors-as-filters that standard Oz-spec Verada's had, fairly easy to add them to filter frequencies if you don't wanna go to Crossovers). The dash-pod drivers are a clip-in design - press fit in, gently lever to get them out of dash.

dreman
31-07-2009, 08:41 PM
Hi Elwyn,

Thanks for that. No, not feeling too adventurous as of yet. :) I will go down to the wreckers and look for the tweeter pods. I did start another thread about the location of x-overs. I want to put them in the door so i dont have to muck around with wiring too much. Do these capacitors that you are talking about work the same way? How are they wired then? In series after the main speaker?

Thanks

Ers
31-07-2009, 09:30 PM
Those door tweeter pods are called door sails/sail mounts/delta pods

Ask Mitsi about them, one of the few 'cheap' brand new parts available. Around $20ea iirc. You'll be hard pressed to find them in the wreckers.

dreman
31-07-2009, 09:42 PM
Those door tweeter pods are called door sails/sail mounts/delta pods

Ask Mitsi about them, one of the few 'cheap' brand new parts available. Around $20ea iirc. You'll be hard pressed to find them in the wreckers.

thanks erwin,

trying to save money anyway i can. :) if i cant get them form the wreckers, i'll wait till next month then to buy from mitsui

Elwyn
01-08-2009, 09:51 AM
Dremen,

Have a look at Wikpedia for high-pass filter or low-pass filter. Others are far better at electronics than me - but the capacitor is a cheap way to filter frequencies, crossovers are probably better, tho more expensive. Ers kno.ws this stuff, I think.

I was lucky, cos I have a TJ Sports with the door tweeters and a KJ Verada ei with both door tweets and dash-pod speakers. Decided to make a road-trip to the Clearance place, and got Infinity dash speakers to upgrade both my cars. Then noticed that the standard Verada ones had capacitors, and the Infinity ones did not (The Infinity sound system had a 6-channel amp, so cross-overs were part of the amp. This was on export cars only, tho the Infinity HU and Amp were also at the clearance centre).

I noted the rating of the capacitors on the standard Verada midrange drivers, and bought capacitors at Dick Smith to match these values. Cut one wire on the Infinity driver and added capacitor - think I got one around wrong way initially but corrected this. Electronics gurus would not have needed to "cut and copy" like I did and still make an initial error!!

The Infinity drivers seem to be a full-range speaker anyway (so can be plugged-in unmodified), but adding the capacitor sounded better to me - let the doors handle the lower tones with the treble lifted up a bit - rather than just have an overall louder/higher sound stage with the unmodified Infinity dash speakers. Might be all psychosomatic, given that I invested 40cents each in those capacitors I just wanna hear a better result!! Still haven't got around to wiring in the dash speakers in my TJ Sports, or parents TJ Exec .......... it won't happen overnight, but it will happen (with apologies to rachael hunter).