On the way to get new tyres for the magna :D , I noticed that the clutch slips a little under heavy load or after a quick shift. I got my dad (who is an ex-mechanic) to take it for a test drive and he agrees with me that the clutch is slipping a little. He reackons I got anywhere from 4 weeks to a couple of months before it becomes a problem. So now I have to think about getting the clutch replaced, and I got a couple of questions:

1. Are TS clutches hard to come by?
2. How much $$$ am I looking at here for a replacement?

It's done 127,000Klms and the next service is at 130,000Klms, so I got a bit of time to think about this. The car is driveable, but I don't know for how long. Anyone here had thier clutch done?

clutches are everywhere, all good part stores (and some crap ones too) will stock them...

a regular clutch should be around 150 - 200? thats parts, not labour

I got mine done at a Mitsubishi dealer...$800 total.

Just like MagnaMad, i got mine done at a mitsu dealer, and it cost me $850 (but I needed a new slave cylinder as well, hence the extra $50 bux).

As wierd as this sounds, the quotes from the Mitsubishi dealer, and from clutch places were basically the same price, with some specialist places being more expensive... I always thought getting it done at a mitsu dealer would be more expensive...

Daz

thanks all, that's a real help. I was expecting somthing around that mark :(

sorry, but i'm quite interested in this thread

can u describe in more detail how the clutch slips? like.. how do u mean?

and $800 for new clutch fully installed.
how much did we spend on wot?
$200 clutch, $600 labour etc etc

how much more for a more stiff and more responsive clutch + labour?

so many Q's
sorry guys :roll:

sorry, but i'm quite interested in this thread

can u describe in more detail how the clutch slips? like.. how do u mean?

and $800 for new clutch fully installed.
how much did we spend on wot?
$200 clutch, $600 labour etc etc

how much more for a more stiff and more responsive clutch + labour?

so many Q's
sorry guys :roll:

Picture this:

You're going up a steep hill in third gear, at about 4000rpm. You quick shift from 3rd to fourth and the revs drop down to 3000rpm. You then flatten it right after shifting and for some reason your speed stays at 100klms but your revs jump from 3000rpm to 4000rpm.

What's happening is that once a gear has been selected, and the clutch as been let out and you flatten it, the revs climb but your speed dosen't. Clutch slippage under load.

I confirmed this with another test. Sat the car on a level slab of concrete and selected 3rd. Held the handbrake on (so the car won't move) and revved the engine while letting out the clutch. The car should stall as the clutch grips. Mine didn't.

WARNING: don't do this more than once. bad for clutch, mmmmmkay.


how much more for a more stiff and more responsive clutch + labour?

I found that it varies depending on how much the workshop will charge for installation. You have to take out the whole engine n stuff. 2 day job. Nasty stuff.

Its not a 2day job I dont think. dropped my car off at 7am, then picked it up at about 4. Though, it is alot of work tho, they gotta take the engine out, or some crap, imnot too sure..

Daz

about this clutch thread
my car is current at Madmagna workshop and he took out my engine and he pull apart my gearbox etc etc

found my clutch about dead.

wot al3x said, thx for the help, now i know why it does that now!! my revs climb but i dont go!, always happens! was wonder why, just thought it was my bad driving

madmagna have found a nice clutch set for about $150-$170bucks. dont know the full details but is it the same clutch u get from mitsu, ecept it comes in a bradded box instead of a mitshu box.

his going to replace the cluch while engine my out, so if any 1 was to do it i'm not sure how much labour is going to cost

but to me it sounds like it wont be costing n e where near $800 bucks

also, something needs to be resurfaced, that about $40bucks
adds about to be just over $200bucks then u need some labour

I have has 2 Manuals - one a v6, and the other a TR 4 banger (which we have still)

My v6 was slipping and we took it to get replaced because the clutch was slipping but it ended up being the hydraulic system pushing the clutch screwed up and i needed a new master / slave cylinder..

on the 4 banger i was doing a burnout :redface: and popped the clutch.. we replaced it ourselves and it cost us about $250 (i think) in parts..

its not too bad a job if you have some mechanical knowledge and a workshop manual ;)

also, something needs to be resurfaced, that about $40bucks
adds about to be just over $200bucks then u need some labour

That $40 would be for the machining of the flywheel?

Well, my clutch is now well and truely slipping, its become really bad. It now slips whenever I accellerate, even when granny driving. So much for 4 weeks huh. Looks like I'll have to get in in to the workshop this week or the following week :( :( :(

That $40 would be for the machining of the flywheel?

Well, my clutch is now well and truely slipping, its become really bad. It now slips whenever I accellerate, even when granny driving. So much for 4 weeks huh. Looks like I'll have to get in in to the workshop this week or the following week :( :( :(


oh well, look on the bring side! its gonna be a brand new clutch!!
cant complaint too much about that!

but the downside would be..... hmm... maybe more grippy tires?

Theres a couple of guys selling V6 clutch / kits on the for sale forum.. If you havent already seen them:

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7097

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7048

Theres a couple of guys selling V6 clutch / kits on the for sale forum.. If you havent already seen them:

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7097

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7048

Yep, I did see those, but I'm getting new everything, not just a new plate/cover.

Bad news I'm afraid. The clutch died today. Sigh. Car is pretty much undrivable. It's been booked in for this thursday :D Amazing how it went in 2 days flat.

thehkway, keep me posted on how your car goes eh!

New everything is the clutch, pressure plate and bearing, throw in 35 bucks for a flywheel machine and you have spent about 200 bucks in general if you can get a good deal plus labour of course

well, I just got my car back this arvo and I got a couple of surprises. My gearbox and clutch assembly is apparently from a TE magna. Had to get a custom clutch made in brisbane. Mitsu factory fitted a TE gearbox to a TS engine (well, that's what the clutch guys in bris and my mechanic reackoned - no dody backyard swap here) :nuts:...anyhoo, teh mechanic reacons there's about 5 or 6 cars which came out with that combination. Weird eh? mayhaps mitsu were testing the TE gearbox by installing it into late model TS's? bah. Cost me $667.70 all up. That's a fair bit under what mitsu charges :D The new clutch is soooo light....bloody hell it bites tho!

sounds good

but what do u mean "light"?
u mean the pedal?

sounds good

but what do u mean "light"?
u mean the pedal?

yeah, that's what I mean, the pedal is very light in operation. It's so much easier to engage/disengage.


That sounds strange as the TE model boxes would not fit the TS as the engine is reversed around and the CV shaft output drive system woudl be in the wrong position.

What you may have had is an early pull clutch istead of a push clutch system on the TS magna in the later models but that again is something I have not seen or heard.That sounds strange as the TE model boxes would not fit the TS as the engine is reversed around and the CV shaft output drive system woudl be in the wrong position.

As for the TE box, dunno hey, that's just what I was told. Beats me, mayhaps they did something at the factory to make it all 'work'. I'm just going on what I was told.

well, I just got my car back this arvo and I got a couple of surprises. My gearbox and clutch assembly is apparently from a TE magna. Had to get a custom clutch made in brisbane. Mitsu factory fitted a TE gearbox to a TS engine (well, that's what the clutch guys in bris and my mechanic reackoned - no dody backyard swap here) :nuts:...anyhoo, teh mechanic reacons there's about 5 or 6 cars which came out with that combination. Weird eh? mayhaps mitsu were testing the TE gearbox by installing it into late model TS's? bah. Cost me $667.70 all up. That's a fair bit under what mitsu charges :D The new clutch is soooo light....bloody hell it bites tho!

Did your mechanic explain this as the reason you have 5 reverse and only 1 forward gear lol

The TR / S magna all have the push clutch. I think you have been told barnies to get some more $$ out of you.

The TE onwards box faces the other way for starters and as the engine still rotates anti clockwise you would go fast backwards and that is about all.

Didn't we discuss this when I was looksieing whilst I had the dying Verada?

I can't really comment any further as my knowledge of engines and gearboxes is next to dick.
All I care now is that my car goes forward, and apparently, backwards rather quickly. :bowrofl: