View Full Version : Saying Hi, and need some TH engine advice
Morphonic
20-08-2009, 08:44 AM
Hi all,
I signed up a couple of weeks or so ago and thought I would finally get around to saying hi as I have been interstate for a lot of that time.
I decided to join the forum so that I could get some good advice and save time with trial and error of which parts to use etc.
I own a 99 3.5ltr auto TH Magna Advance which has just started leaking coolant from the water pump. Anyway I dropped it off to my mechanic to get it replaced, and have discovered that I now have a blown head gasket(s) along with the pump. That will teach me for using a cheaper after market pump; which I had replaced whilst getting the timing kit done upon purchasing the car nearly 3 years ago.:mad:
Could anybody please recommend if it is worth replacing the gaskets (on the 130,000km motor) or just sourcing a short or long motor, keeping in mind I wish to keep the car for another year and a half or so. And who to contact in regards to sourcing another motor and any idea on $ if possible.
Thanks:happy:
lowrider
20-08-2009, 08:51 AM
usally if it blows a head gasket, you need to machine your heads. you dont usally just slap another gasket on.
Morphonic
20-08-2009, 09:10 AM
Sorry should have been more specific (it's been a long night and day). Repair what I've got or source a recon unit.;)
gtrtwinturbo
20-08-2009, 08:27 PM
could be wrong but didn't i read somewhere that these engines have metal head gaskets????
to blow one of these requires ALOT of heat!!!!
if thats the case u may not be able to simply skim the heads and deck the block may require more attention....
still learning bout magnas but very rare to blow head gaskets is it not???
pyalda
20-08-2009, 08:38 PM
funny i know 2 people with 3.0L both hav blown the head gaskets before - i knwo a few iwth 3.5's they hammer them and no problems...... maybe jsut luck or maybe its the engine.
Anyway - u can get another engine and run the same problem, get a good head gasket one that can withstand around 15psi, and change the head gasket recon teh head while ru there... then u know u got a good engine... when u take another engine and stick it in the car, u dont knwo wat suprises u get later.... so always better to keeep the engine and change gasket etc. they give u warrenty on the engine u buy from wreckers BUT NOT ON THE LABOR and thats the killer.
DEF go for new gasket.
gremlin
20-08-2009, 08:43 PM
there is 3.5L long motors on ebay all the time for $500
personally i wouldnt muck around with your motor..spend $500, drop it in and your done
lowrider
20-08-2009, 08:46 PM
yeah i agree with gremlin, and depending on when the engine was due for a service, you could save some dosh by servicing the engine while its out of the car, (timing belt is the big one)
pyalda
20-08-2009, 08:49 PM
well depends if ur geting somone to do the engine swap or u doing it urself - far as i know quote for engine swap is $650 + labor alone.
plus $500 for enigine - thats 1150 - cost alot less to do headgasket + time belt... dont you think? and then u nkow u got new gasket etc.
gremlin
20-08-2009, 08:52 PM
well depends if ur geting somone to do the engine swap or u doing it urself - far as i know quote for engine swap is $650 + labor alone.
plus $500 for enigine - thats 1150 - cost alot less to do headgasket + time belt... dont you think? and then u nkow u got new gasket etc.
more than 1150 for headgasket and timing belt and water pump i reckon
pyalda
20-08-2009, 08:53 PM
really? head gasket around $800 - belt = 250 waterpump I HAVE NO IDEA was $150 for hte patrol
pyalda
20-08-2009, 08:54 PM
but u can get another engine and stil have problems in it.
its a chance - "do you feel lucky today, Punk?"
Madmagna
20-08-2009, 08:59 PM
The chances of an S4 engine blowing a head gasket is rare, The engine would have to have been that hot it would most likely have stopped dead when it got hot
The reason a gasket blows is the expansion of the alloy and castiron compressing both the alloy and the gasket material.
I would want 100% confirmation from this mechanic that you have a blown head gasket before you agree to this. Are there any symptoms at all or has your mechanic decided that he saw something
pyalda
20-08-2009, 09:04 PM
oh - jsut shoudl let you know
I saw 2001 model lancer on the side of the road - for $750 ! ! ! !i went up to it and saw a old man and a aold lady near it i asked if its there car - they said yes, i said why is it so cheap - they said the mechanic todl them head gasket is gone - and theres always prbs iwth it so they want it gone, i thgotuh HELL YES i want it. so i bought it.
(ofcorse cheked revs n all)
insured it for $10,500 market value.
anyway - TURNS OUT THE HEADGASKET IS FINE ! got compression test n all. coolant perfect, HOWEVER the oil was around 4 times the level it was soppose to be. which caused smoke - droped the oil FRIKEN 10.5L in it - they said mechanic done all work, came with books up to date (these ppl were like 70yrs old they went gona do car service themselvs) anyway - fresh oil, oil fileter n all.... now its been 1yr, NO prbs at all. coolant level perfect, NO smoke at all, and oil perfect.
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