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jzt
22-08-2009, 07:47 PM
Hi all, just wondering if the popular Kashmir colour in 3rd gens went all the way from TE through to TW with no change?

Been trying to colour-code the side strips on a Kashmir TL, paint code HH.

Got a spray can made up at AutoBarn today.

However, after doing the painting, the side strips look almost silver, whereas the car has a much more orangey-tinge to it.

(N.B. I've put up a WTB for another set of side strips......but will send them off to a panel shop this time!)

Then, after seeing a few TE/TF's around the place, I notice that the Kashmir colour on the earlier models seems to be more a light gold/champagne colour, without the orange tinge like the later TJ/TL/TW cars in (supposedly) the same Kashmir colour. The later cars also seem to be more 'pearly' than earlier ones, to my eyes.

If anyone has a TE/TF in that colour, can you verify that if your paint code is HH?

Maybe the earlier cars have lost the orange tinge due to fading etc....but I don't recall them ever having it!

Surely Mitsubishi wouldn't call 2 different colours by the same name, imagine the confusion that would cause in a paint shop

Jasons VRX
22-08-2009, 07:56 PM
Hi all, just wondering if the popular Kashmir colour in 3rd gens went all the way from TE through to TW with no change?

Been trying to colour-code the side strips on a Kashmir TL, paint code HH.

Got a spray can made up at AutoBarn today.

However, after doing the painting, the side strips look almost silver, whereas the car has a much more orangey-tinge to it.

(N.B. I've put up a WTB for another set of side strips......but will send them off to a panel shop this time!)

Then, after seeing a few TE/TF's around the place, I notice that the Kashmir colour on the earlier models seems to be more a light gold/champagne colour, without the orange tinge like the later TJ/TL/TW cars in (supposedly) the same Kashmir colour. The later cars also seem to be more 'pearly' than earlier ones, to my eyes.

If anyone has a TE/TF in that colour, can you verify that if your paint code is HH?

Maybe the earlier cars have lost the orange tinge due to fading etc....but I don't recall them ever having it!

Surely Mitsubishi wouldn't call 2 different colours by the same name, imagine the confusion that would cause in a paint shop


Its called colour variants. Every different batch of colour supplied to MMAL can/will be slightly different to another. Some colours are more effected than others (silver, light metalic blue, kashmir, riversand etc)

Thats why if you ever going to colour code the car you are better off getting paint matched directly to the car itself, using the paint code as a starting point only. Most paint shop colour computers will list the different paint variants for each particular colour. Eg 1 might be slightly lighter, then there maybe one slightly darker, then there might be a "redish" variant and so on.

Hope that makes sense

jzt
22-08-2009, 08:03 PM
Thanks for that Jason, I never knew about the different variants of the same paint.

Well the guy who mixed the spray can for me today was incredibly arrogant and rude...usual deal, slamming the cans of paint on the counter top, (typical exertion of alpha-male characteristics), talking heaps, juggling paint cans while talking etc.

Even gave me a can of top coat clear and told me it was plastic primer!

One would think that if he really knew his stuff he would have tried to mix in a bit more red, as he had physically walked out to see the car and get the paintcode off the compliance plate, because he didn't believe me when I told him "Mitsubishi Kashmir TL Magna HH"!

Ah well, at least in the future I will know.

Learn something new every day hey

[TUFFTR]
22-08-2009, 08:21 PM
Thanks for that Jason, I never knew about the different variants of the same paint.

Well the guy who mixed the spray can for me today was incredibly arrogant and rude...usual deal, slamming the cans of paint on the counter top, (typical exertion of alpha-male characteristics), talking heaps, juggling paint cans while talking etc.

Even gave me a can of top coat clear and told me it was plastic primer!

One would think that if he really knew his stuff he would have tried to mix in a bit more red, as he had physically walked out to see the car and get the paintcode off the compliance plate, because he didn't believe me when I told him "Mitsubishi Kashmir TL Magna HH"!

Ah well, at least in the future I will know.

Learn something new every day hey

I think going to auto-barn was your first mistake. Go to a paint store that can mix up automotive paints.

Or if you are prepared to fork out a tad more, just get them coded at a paint shop. You wouldnt believe the difference just 1-2mL of paint will have in a 500mL pot. so its very hard to color match PERFECTLY.

MadMax
22-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Paints ain't paints. The factory buys paint in bulk - sometimes from different manufacturers - and if a whole car is sprayed with the one batch there are no problems, but down the track only an experienced eye can match paint colours exactly. In a small quantity like a spraycan, you have no chance. Add the fact that most touchup paints are acrylic lacquer and factory paint isn't, and have different fade characteristics, you can have real problems. I have seen red and blue panels matched perfectly after spraying and compounding , only to be very embarassing, colour wise, 6 months later.

Go see a REAL paint shop, show them the problem, and ask for help!

My wife bought a '04 lancer in white (Scotia white). I liked the colour so I painted both my TS Magnas with it (both peeling clearcoat, white is easy to work with, no fading down the track etc), in acrylic, using the proper colour code. When it came time to touch up the Lancer rear bar with the acrylic Scotia white, guess what? Colours don't match, yet you would swear the 3 cars are all the same colour just looking at them.