Want to get great illumination without extra heat, wiring upgrades, relays, transformers, and blue tint? Want to SEE better at night instead of HEARING a bunch of dubious chatter about xenon-filled, over-wattage, blue-tinted bling-bling bulbs that are supposedly "just like HIDs"? Want a bulb where you could create a simple swap or H4/H7 socket and maintain the correct filament placement for a perfect light pattern, instead of causing glare and scattered, diffused light? Want to save hundreds of dollars over the cost of retrofitting an illegal, bootleg HID system? Then you want these Halogen Infrared Reflecting bulbs.

These Toshiba bulbs are a unique product, the only bulbs available that use the research technology that General Electric patented in 2000 (patent number 6,087,775). It was GE's goal to create a bulb that produced 75% of the light output of HID headlights at 25% of the cost. GE sells HIR bulbs for residential lighting and specialized projectors, but decided to stay out of the automotive market and licensed this technology to a division of Toshiba. In fact, Toshiba and GE are among the few companies in the world with the expertise to engineer and build this product. These bulbs attain light levels 75% to 110% brighter than stock as a result of an engineering process that deposits multiple, yet almost invisible, layers of semi-reflective coating on the surface of a specially shaped quartz bulb. This coating ( a titania/silica, zinc oxide/silica, zirconia/silica, silicon nitride/silica, and titania/magnesium fluoride tantalam/silica multi-layer dielectric, according to the patent) reflects a portion of the infrared energy emitted by the filament back onto the filament, causing it to glow brighter and emit more light from the uncoated forward portion of the bulb. Although the filament gets hotter, the glass does not. IT GENERATES NO MORE HEAT THAN A REGULAR HALOGEN BULB, AND IT DRAWS THE SAME WATTAGE AND AMPERAGE AS THE STOCK BULB IT REPLACES

The technology used in the HIR bulb is called Halogen Infrared Reflecting and is relatively new.

Rather than having a tubular shape, the HIR bulb has a unique spherical shape, centered around the filament. There is a faint iridescent coating applied to the inside of the bulb glass. This microns-thin film is the key to the bulb's light output. The film reflects a portion of the infrared light back at the filament, causing it (the filament, not the glass housing) to become hotter and, therefore, burn brighter without shortening the bulb's life.

The result, then, is a brighter light without shorter life or incompatibility with stock wiring. The beam pattern of your headlights will not change, but there will be considerably more light within the pattern.

From what other guys have being saying they look the goods with a probably 30% less intensity than HID

http://www.ipf.co.jp/IPF2007/catalog/X4/4X42.jpg

///IPF have these available in most sockets but cannot find a retailler in AU except 4wd aftermarket accesories places as they are imported by ARB

Might go and check out the 4wd centre up the road

Might be a go-er if I can get some globes and fit them (might start with the Highs LOL)

Question - why?

I work night shifts constantly; in fact, OMG, I'm nearly finished one now.

I live on Bribie Isl 50mins north of Brisbane and that means I have to drive along a narrow two lane road for 30 mins in pitch black through wooded areas.
I haven't had any issue with the standard Hi beam lights. In fact when ppl overtake me or I overtake them and I compare intensity, invariably my beams are much, much better. Maybe they are inferior to the latest Euro/falcodore models but that doesn't make me want to upgrade.

Anyway, if ppl get a buzz getting their hand jammed down the back of the headlight assembly, fine - whatever floats ya boat I spose.

Its all about the look :drool:

Plus I am not a fan of just sticking HID globes in the assembly without the projector as the look is CRAP IMO

I agree Knotched the lighting in the 380 is superior to most cars

I just want that HID look without HID cost and getting an inferior ASIAN HID setup :headbange

I am all about bling and less about ZING in my 380 :happy:

Fair enuff.

If there was a really good argument to it, I'll look closely at them.

Fair enuff.

If there was a really good argument to it, I'll look closely at them.

Richard, I reckon you need to replace all your interior lights/parkers etc with LEDs & get some of these new bulbs. Don't forget the multicoloured footwell lights & some red tinsel around your windscreen & green around your bootlid. To top it off I think you need an elaborate angel setup off the top of a christmas tree that glows in the dark glued to your bonnet & then you'll be set :gfight:

still cant beat HID , it actually has less heat than halogen. Ill do a write up soon with the install which is dead easy and it straight plug in and away you go. if you dont like the blue light you can go for diff colour 6000k in HID seems the best to me, best of both worlds

Yeah HID's are fantastic. Love getting blinded by them all the time. Anyhoo, great topic, what the RRP on a se of these bulbs? ADR approved? very keen.

Aurion has HIR as High beam globe

RRP not in AU only have found them in JAP or US

Were not at the 4wd Accessorie shop they advised me they will speak to ARB rep to see if can get and pricing

To top it off I think you need an elaborate angel setup off the top of a christmas tree that glows in the dark glued to your bonnet & then you'll be set :gfight:

:wtf:

:facejump:

OK, that sounds alright...:liar:
Or maybe one of those Playboy Bunny stickers on the back window...wife will like that :kb:


Aurion has HIR as High beam globe

That does it - I'm getting some!


still cant beat HID , it actually has less heat than halogen. Ill do a write up soon with the install which is dead easy and it straight plug in and away you go. if you dont like the blue light you can go for diff colour 6000k in HID seems the best to me, best of both worlds

that'd be good, mate.

I stand to be convinced but I'm also open to upgrading if it's a definite improvement.

Question - why?


I'd agree. Driving down the great national artery called the Bruce Highway in FNQ at midnight (pitch black, no lamps) I found the highbeams were more than adequate. In fact, the reflections off the roadsigns were so bright I was being blinded by them.

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind an upgrade to the normal beam lights. Looking at the bulbs advertised, I am suspicious of the blue tint. Blue tints often give an illusion of brightness to the human eye, when in reality the vision is less bright due to the tint absorbing partial energy. I saw this in my research to HIDs about two years ago, I'll see if I can find it and link it as reference. My thoughts are that blue light is highly diffusive (explains why the sky is blue). The illusion is that the diffusive properties of blue light makes it easier to see those around you especially in your peripherals. The downside of using blue light is that you have less energy directed forward and therefore can't see as far out.

Either way if anyone fits it, it would be great if we could run a comparative luminance check with the stock lights. Also, is this any better than the Panther visions? http://panthervision.net/cart.php?page=why_panthervision_

Sorry to barge in but does anyone have any reccomendations for 2nd gen parra low beam bulbs that are bright as possible and white as possible on a budget of <$40?

Doing a quick search in Australia for HIR I found this on a 4WD forum:

I agree about IPF, but don't get sucked into the HIR globes. I got some (hideous cost) but find that they're not really better than 130 watt globes - for my 800 series H3 spots. Expensive lesson for me.

I dont know what type of bulbs you're after, but I just bought H4 Osram Nightbreakers from the UK for about $25 delivered:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380143280285&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Cheers

J

Sorry to barge in but does anyone have any reccomendations for 2nd gen parra low beam bulbs that are bright as possible and white as possible on a budget of <$40?

As JimmyA Said, osram nightbreakers are VERY good for the money.

Thanks guys, just bought a set. Look like they will be great.

;1109619']As JimmyA Said, osram nightbreakers are VERY good for the money.

Otherwse known as Narva BluePower and sold at Repco.

oh really, doesnt matter I dont do much night driving and I highly doubt I'd get them for $25 so I can wait.

Otherwse known as Narva BluePower and sold at Repco.
...for twice the price.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Narva-H4-Blue-Power-Globes_W0QQitemZ110413978880QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item19b52f9d00&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

Question - why?

I work night shifts constantly; in fact, OMG, I'm nearly finished one now.

I live on Bribie Isl 50mins north of Brisbane and that means I have to drive along a narrow two lane road for 30 mins in pitch black through wooded areas.
I haven't had any issue with the standard Hi beam lights. In fact when ppl overtake me or I overtake them and I compare intensity, invariably my beams are much, much better. Maybe they are inferior to the latest Euro/falcodore models but that doesn't make me want to upgrade.

Anyway, if ppl get a buzz getting their hand jammed down the back of the headlight assembly, fine - whatever floats ya boat I spose.

Hey Knotched I am hearing you on the night shifts, they suck. But I have always liked really good lights too. Mind you I do agree that these have the best standard lights of any car that I have owned and you dont really need to upgrade them, but....... we like stuffing around with our cars and making them just a little bit different and distinctive, hence changing hi/low/parkers. I can remember my first car, a 1300 Ford Escort van. So gutless it wouldn't do 120kph!! (maybe down hill) and the headlights, well I think a dolphin torch was brighter. Needless to say that technology has come leaps and bounds since then (thank God we all say!!)

still cant beat HID , it actually has less heat than halogen. Ill do a write up soon with the install which is dead easy and it straight plug in and away you go. if you dont like the blue light you can go for diff colour 6000k in HID seems the best to me, best of both worlds

How much and where from would be nice too mate.
Cheers

;1109619']As JimmyA Said, osram nightbreakers are VERY good for the money.

Nightbreakers are a good value buy and they are made in Germany not China, which for my money says that they are made better with better quality control. I put mine in a couple of days ago and am very happy with them for the cost. Buy both H4 and H7 together and combine postage to save. Can give you the ebay link if interested.

Doing a quick search in Australia for HIR I found this on a 4WD forum:

I agree about IPF, but don't get sucked into the HIR globes. I got some (hideous cost) but find that they're not really better than 130 watt globes - for my 800 series H3 spots. Expensive lesson for me.

but you give the wiring a frying going that far over the top of 55w

4wd guys are going to have gripes about these things as well as they are using them for SPOTTIES not hi/low beams

All about the context

still waiting for ARB to get an answer

Otherwse known as Narva BluePower and sold at Repco.

Are they really the same? I thought the Narvas were chinese!

Are they really the same? I thought the Narvas were chinese!
According to the email I got from Osram, Repco retail Osram nightbreakers as Narva Blue Power in Oz. Oz actually don't sell Osram auto bulbs directly.

Mmm will have to have a look when I am next in there to see where they are made.

Following are the pics of the packaging of the one I bought.

I got those Narva Blue Powers, I have had two fail on me within months of use. One side now has a shit cheap Calibre bulb from Supercheap in and it outputs EXACTLY the same light as the Narva bulb, and it is still going strong compared to the Narva. Not happy at all with this product.

Sorry to barge in but does anyone have any reccomendations for 2nd gen parra low beam bulbs that are bright as possible and white as possible on a budget of <$40?

OSRAM NIGHTBREAKER +90%
http://www.powerbulbs.com/osram-nightbreaker.asp?cat1=44&cat2=74

OR

PHILIPS X-TREME +80%
http://www.powerbulbs.com/philips-xtreme-extreme-power.asp?cat1=37&cat2=73


Both very long range and work out to be ~AU$40 delivered depending on the shape/size you need.

Pics here:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1094604&postcount=12



Having tried both, if your housing uses H4 then use the Philips X-treme as the low beam lighting is FAR superior. But if you have the parabolics with the seperate H7 high beam then get the OSRAMS for that as visibility due to whiter light with the equivalent range

According to the email I got from Osram, Repco retail Osram nightbreakers as Narva Blue Power in Oz. Oz actually don't sell Osram auto bulbs directly.

eh? not sure what they mean... i've tried the narva blue previously and their actually blue (nowhere near as blue as philips blue vision though)... i have the nightbreakers now and their white with a hint of yellow.

Thanks for recommendations but ive already bought the ones as mention earlier for $25. I live near the city so low beams dont have to be super bright, already have some good high beams, not sure if theyre standard but they are very bright.

eh? not sure what they mean... i've tried the narva blue previously and their actually blue (nowhere near as blue as philips blue vision though)... i have the nightbreakers now and their white with a hint of yellow.

Osram Nightbreaker or the relabelled Narva BLue Power only has a slight blue coating at the tip. The light is noticeably whiter but not blue. Do a search for my post on with photos compared with standard globes. As I said before, Osram does not sell bulbs for the auto industry in Australia, instead, it subcontracts or however you call it, Narva to resell them badged as Narva bulbs. Narva has other blue bulbs like arctic blue which is bluer but not brighter etc.

Question - why?

I work night shifts constantly; in fact, OMG, I'm nearly finished one now.

I live on Bribie Isl 50mins north of Brisbane and that means I have to drive along a narrow two lane road for 30 mins in pitch black through wooded areas.
I haven't had any issue with the standard Hi beam lights. In fact when ppl overtake me or I overtake them and I compare intensity, invariably my beams are much, much better. Maybe they are inferior to the latest Euro/falcodore models but that doesn't make me want to upgrade.

Anyway, if ppl get a buzz getting their hand jammed down the back of the headlight assembly, fine - whatever floats ya boat I spose.

I'm with Knotched.

About six weeks ago I swapped my H7 high beam / combo bulbs for some Narva +50s (which as others have noted are really just re-branded Osrams). These +50s aren't nightbreakers or ice blue or whatever, but as the name suggests they are supposed to put out 50% more light than standard H7s.

Anyway, after six weeks I wasn't all that impressed so a couple of days ago I swapped them back for the stock bulbs.

Just got back from a 400km country drive and no doubt about it, the stockers are way better. More light, brighter light and they throw further than the Narva +50s.

So I'm convinced that the stock 380 H7s are pretty damn good, and you would need to upgrade to something like the Philips Extreme +80s before you saw (lousy pun intended!) any improvement.

KJ.