Hey, was thinking about putting some nice wheels on my series2 380vrx. Does anyone know if there is a maximum size i can go without voiding the warranty?

Cheers

It's more your insurance you have to worry about, and wether they are legal. Wheels don't invalidate your warranty. The only warranty you lose is on your original wheels, but you get new warranty with the new wheels, if you buy new, so it all evens out mostly.

Hey, was thinking about putting some nice wheels on my series2 380vrx. Does anyone know if there is a maximum size i can go without voiding the warranty?

Cheers

A few things to bear in mind if you are looking at new presumably bigger wheels.

1/ You will be paying a fair bit more for tyres. I think Foozcrool and several others are running 19" and Mchenry 20's.
It would be worth your while to check out and compare tyre prices with sizes before you commit to buying.

2/ The tyres you will need to fit will be substantially lower profile probably 45's or less.If you are considering doing any driving on dirt roads etc you may find yourself damaging rims and tyres (and your kidneys lol).

They do turn in alot better because of less side wall distortion but they also give you a more harsher ride. On the upside there are alot of really nice rims out there these days. Some places (Bob Jane I think for one) have a program that will show you what the wheels will look like on your car. The TMR380 runs 19" from memory so you shouldn't have any problems with that size legally speaking. I am sure a few of the guys will offer their opinions on wheels. Last note, be very careful to get the correct offset wheels.

Hey, was thinking about putting some nice wheels on my series2 380vrx. Does anyone know if there is a maximum size i can go without voiding the warranty?

Cheers

Go with 19's mate, there legal and there is plenty to choose from in both rims(114.3 PCD same as BA falcon etc) and tyres.See the "whos running what tyre" thread for ideas. Hey! good to see you back un-banned Matey!

Go with 19's mate, there legal and there is plenty to choose from in both rims(114.3 PCD same as BA falcon etc) and tyres.See the "whos running what tyre" thread for ideas. Hey! good to see you back un-banned Matey!
I was a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad boy :woot: Great to be back too.

A few things to bear in mind if you are looking at new presumably bigger wheels.

1/ You will be paying a fair bit more for tyres. I think Foozcrool and several others are running 19" and Mchenry 20's.
It would be worth your while to check out and compare tyre prices with sizes before you commit to buying.

2/ The tyres you will need to fit will be substantially lower profile probably 45's or less.If you are considering doing any driving on dirt roads etc you may find yourself damaging rims and tyres (and your kidneys lol).

They do turn in alot better because of less side wall distortion but they also give you a more harsher ride. On the upside there are alot of really nice rims out there these days. Some places (Bob Jane I think for one) have a program that will show you what the wheels will look like on your car. The TMR380 runs 19" from memory so you shouldn't have any problems with that size legally speaking. I am sure a few of the guys will offer their opinions on wheels. Last note, be very careful to get the correct offset wheels.

Yep. I believe that the legal size limit is actually written on the placard or manual book. Varies on what model you have. Also another thing to note is that when you change diameters there's a good chance your old & new sizes won't be identical so your speedometer will be off even more. As an example, my 17s were originally off by 4% (ie at 100km/h on the dial I was actually on 96 km/h). After switching to 18s they were 8% off (100km/h = 92km/h). If you are not happy with this it may cost you another $100 or so to recalibrate.

Another thing is that your wheel/tyre combo may end up being heavier than stock so accelleration is affected. I doubt you'd notice the diff, I sure as hell can't, only a dyno can. One thing I do notice though is that when I floor the pedal my steering wheel turns in on its own sharply (torque effect on FWDs?). Never happened on stocks, but others may have a different experience.

As for the better turn-in, my opinion is that larger wheel diameters = larger turn radius.

A few things to bear in mind if you are looking at new presumably bigger wheels.

1/ You will be paying a fair bit more for tyres. I think Foozcrool and several others are running 19" and Mchenry 20's.
It would be worth your while to check out and compare tyre prices with sizes before you commit to buying.

2/ The tyres you will need to fit will be substantially lower profile probably 45's or less.If you are considering doing any driving on dirt roads etc you may find yourself damaging rims and tyres (and your kidneys lol).

They do turn in alot better because of less side wall distortion but they also give you a more harsher ride. On the upside there are alot of really nice rims out there these days. Some places (Bob Jane I think for one) have a program that will show you what the wheels will look like on your car. The TMR380 runs 19" from memory so you shouldn't have any problems with that size legally speaking. I am sure a few of the guys will offer their opinions on wheels. Last note, be very careful to get the correct offset wheels.

MCHenry's are massive 22s. He says the first rego'd 380 with 22s (at that time).
Most of us have 19s, and a couple have 20s.
Personally the 19s are quite affordable these days... and 18s will just look too small on the 380.

Can someone explain the term offset to a tyre ignoramous

Can someone explain the term offset to a tyre ignoramous

Its the distance from the wheels mounting surface to the center of the rim. 380's are a positive offset wheel (wheel is further inboard) whereas alot of old school deep dish mags are a zero or negative offset(further outboard)

A few things to bear in mind if you are looking at new presumably bigger wheels.

1/ You will be paying a fair bit more for tyres. I think Foozcrool and several others are running 19" and Mchenry 20's.
It would be worth your while to check out and compare tyre prices with sizes before you commit to buying.

2/ The tyres you will need to fit will be substantially lower profile probably 45's or less.If you are considering doing any driving on dirt roads etc you may find yourself damaging rims and tyres (and your kidneys lol).

They do turn in alot better because of less side wall distortion but they also give you a more harsher ride. On the upside there are alot of really nice rims out there these days. Some places (Bob Jane I think for one) have a program that will show you what the wheels will look like on your car. The TMR380 runs 19" from memory so you shouldn't have any problems with that size legally speaking. I am sure a few of the guys will offer their opinions on wheels. Last note, be very careful to get the correct offset wheels.

I've had my 380 GT for a few weeks now, and it has 20s on it. Initially I was thinking that I'd have to drop down a size for cost and comfort sake, but after some time driving around it is surprisingly compliant. Kudos to the standard suspensions and dampers on the 380s.

Although I am still MUCH more aware of potholes than I was in my old TE executive with the 15s on it! And I'm still pretty nervous about letting my wife drive it, cause she is used to driving a Frontera with massive sidewalls and ground clearance (is that wrong? Am I evil? :nuts:)

And as for tyres yeah I'm a little afraid of what it is gonna cost me when the time comes. But if I can get away with something like this for $250 per corner or less fitted and balanced I'll be satisfied. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290341679804&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

And as for tyres yeah I'm a little afraid of what it is gonna cost me when the time comes. But if I can get away with something like this for $250 per corner or less fitted and balanced I'll be satisfied. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290341679804&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Those wouldn't be legal, as they're not load rated properly for a 380.

Like genebaby said, warranty isn't the issue, as all you're losing is the warranty on your standard rims. However thought must be given to legality. Tyres must have the same (or better) load and speed rating as the placard on the drivers door. You can go any size rim you want, as long as the rolling diameter (overall diamater of the tyre) isn't seriously affected. In Queensland, you can go between +15 and -26mm and still remain legal. On my Magna my rolling diameter is about 10mm smaller than stock so now my speedo under-reads by about 1.8km/h. Wheels/tyres can't protude past the guards either.

I've had my 380 GT for a few weeks now, and it has 20s on it. Initially I was thinking that I'd have to drop down a size for cost and comfort sake, but after some time driving around it is surprisingly compliant. Kudos to the standard suspensions and dampers on the 380s.

Although I am still MUCH more aware of potholes than I was in my old TE executive with the 15s on it! And I'm still pretty nervous about letting my wife drive it, cause she is used to driving a Frontera with massive sidewalls and ground clearance (is that wrong? Am I evil? :nuts:)

And as for tyres yeah I'm a little afraid of what it is gonna cost me when the time comes. But if I can get away with something like this for $250 per corner or less fitted and balanced I'll be satisfied. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290341679804&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Hi there APAT, what tyre size you running there mate?You planning on some lowering ? Yep those ebay tyres load rating is all wrong for the 380 but anyway I guess the price for 20's is coming down just like most large tyres as the aftermarket demand increases and car manufacturers continue to put large wheels on from factory.I can still remember when everything from factory were 13's,14's and woah those big 15'slol

Like genebaby said, warranty isn't the issue, as all you're losing is the warranty on your standard rims. .

That isn't correct - it is possible to lose warranty on more than just the standard rims. Different rims can be a contributing factor in other vehicle components failing - such as suspension and brakes and this means the warranty will be voided on those components if it can be shown that the rims were a factor. I would be careful not to fit rims significantly heavier than stock (eg 20" chromies) as they put higher stress on such components - nor would I fit rims that do not fit the vehicle properly from an offset perspective

Hi there APAT, what tyre size you running there mate? You planning on some lowering ?

Hey mate. I'm running 225/35/20s at the moment. They are only about 2.5mm smaller in rolling diameter than the stock GT 55 series 17s. The tyres on them at present are absolutely terrible. In the dry they are ok (although I suspect that it is the road rather than the tyre doing the gripping) and in the wet they are very ordinary. :eeek:

I'd like to lower it, as it does look a little bit like it is on stilts at the moment, but I'm not sure I want to ruin the ride. I'm really happy with it the way it is now. Decisions decisions.

MCHenry's are massive 22s. He says the first rego'd 380 with 22s (at that time).
Most of us have 19s, and a couple have 20s.
Personally the 19s are quite affordable these days... and 18s will just look too small on the 380.

You would get defected on 22" in NSW not sure about other states.

Hi there APAT, what tyre size you running there mate?You planning on some lowering ? Yep those ebay tyres load rating is all wrong for the 380 but anyway I guess the price for 20's is coming down just like most large tyres as the aftermarket demand increases and car manufacturers continue to put large wheels on from factory.I can still remember when everything from factory were 13's,14's and woah those big 15'slol
You are showing your age mate. Chris and I can remember 12" jatz crackers and cross plys eh Chris?

Can someone explain the term offset to a tyre ignoramous
Sorry about that Chris, my fault I should have explained.

Hey mate. I'm running 225/35/20s at the moment. They are only about 2.5mm smaller in rolling diameter than the stock GT 55 series 17s. The tyres on them at present are absolutely terrible. In the dry they are ok (although I suspect that it is the road rather than the tyre doing the gripping) and in the wet they are very ordinary. :eeek:

I'd like to lower it, as it does look a little bit like it is on stilts at the moment, but I'm not sure I want to ruin the ride. I'm really happy with it the way it is now. Decisions decisions.

I personally have never liked BF Goodrich. Not a performance tyre in my books, they dont rate.

This link will prove very handy for alot of people as it has a calculator to compare tyre width/profiles with each other for rolling diameter to see how much it will be affected. It also has a handy explanation on offsets and a couple of diagrams to boot. Not a bad site.

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.html

Do check legality of rims with your local roads people in your state. In NSW you can only increase your overall height by 15mm and width by 25mm before needing an engineers certificate. I was of the opinion before I checked on this that you could only increase your rim height by 2" but this is, in fact, incorrect. Red from what you are saying QLD is very similar.

I personally have never liked BF Goodrich. Not a performance tyre in my books, they dont rate.
They go well on my 4wd!! :io:

Hey mate. I'm running 225/35/20s at the moment. They are only about 2.5mm smaller in rolling diameter than the stock GT 55 series 17s. The tyres on them at present are absolutely terrible. In the dry they are ok (although I suspect that it is the road rather than the tyre doing the gripping) and in the wet they are very ordinary. :eeek:

I'd like to lower it, as it does look a little bit like it is on stilts at the moment, but I'm not sure I want to ruin the ride. I'm really happy with it the way it is now. Decisions decisions.

hey mate..
my 380GT is on 20's , with the 225/35 tyres , and it is lowered on pedders springs...

the ride quality is still great, to the point where you will not notice a difference..

also , it looks awesome :)

Hey mate. I'm running 225/35/20s at the moment. They are only about 2.5mm smaller in rolling diameter than the stock GT 55 series 17s. The tyres on them at present are absolutely terrible. In the dry they are ok (although I suspect that it is the road rather than the tyre doing the gripping) and in the wet they are very ordinary. :eeek:

I'd like to lower it, as it does look a little bit like it is on stilts at the moment, but I'm not sure I want to ruin the ride. I'm really happy with it the way it is now. Decisions decisions.

Yeah dont be afraid to lower as the ride quality is still quite good.Most guys here are running 35 and 40 profile tyres and are still happy ,as am I,with the ride.Plus the vast improvement in look far outways a firmer ride. oh and I just repeated what Brad said!!! beat me by a minute!LOL

You are showing your age mate. Chris and I can remember 12" jatz crackers and cross plys eh Chris?

Sorry about that Chris, my fault I should have explained.


I personally have never liked BF Goodrich. Not a performance tyre in my books, they dont rate.

12's!!!! now your going back a bit.Good to hear i'm not the oldest here too. Yeah alot of guys,you maybe:woot:, still remember the old BF Goodrich T/A's in the 70's which looked great on your street machine but not the best performer.There stuff these days might .be alright though, I dunno!

A few things to bear in mind if you are looking at new presumably bigger wheels.

1/ You will be paying a fair bit more for tyres. I think Foozcrool and several others are running 19" and Mchenry 20's.
It would be worth your while to check out and compare tyre prices with sizes before you commit to buying.

2/ The tyres you will need to fit will be substantially lower profile probably 45's or less.If you are considering doing any driving on dirt roads etc you may find yourself damaging rims and tyres (and your kidneys lol).


No way? are you serious!:surprised

You would get defected on 22" in NSW not sure about other states.

on what grounds?

so long as your OD stays within 15mm of stock, rim size doesn't matter. and as long as you have tyres that have the required speed and load ratings.

EDIT: just saw this...


Do check legality of rims with your local roads people in your state. In NSW you can only increase your overall height by 15mm and width by 25mm before needing an engineers certificate. I was of the opinion before I checked on this that you could only increase your rim height by 2" but this is, in fact, incorrect. Red from what you are saying QLD is very similar.

I'm pretty sure it's the largest factory optional rim available on the car that you base the +25mm of width.

Old?... Jeez I remember solid rubber!

hey mate..
my 380GT is on 20's , with the 225/35 tyres , and it is lowered on pedders springs...

the ride quality is still great, to the point where you will not notice a difference..

also , it looks awesome :)

Yeah..it needs doing.

How far did you (and witewalzs too) lower yours? 35mm or so front and back? How much am I looking at, cost wise? (I'll need to prepare my wife for the next little monetary shock).

So on the list at present is K&N (thanks 380matey!), snorkle (not aquired yet), muffler (chatting to a mate who works in an exhaust shop this weekend), lowering, and I haven't even begun to tinker with the stereo. Sigh...I can see many nights on the couch in my immediate future :bash:

Yeah..it needs doing.

How far did you (and witewalzs too) lower yours? 35mm or so front and back? How much am I looking at, cost wise? (I'll need to prepare my wife for the next little monetary shock).

So on the list at present is K&N (thanks 380matey!), snorkle (not aquired yet), muffler (chatting to a mate who works in an exhaust shop this weekend), lowering, and I haven't even begun to tinker with the stereo. Sigh...I can see many nights on the couch in my immediate future :bash:
Still on for Saturday? Give me a call in the morning and we can tag.

on what grounds?

so long as your OD stays within 15mm of stock, rim size doesn't matter. and as long as you have tyres that have the required speed and load ratings.

EDIT: just saw this...
I'm pretty sure it's the largest factory optional rim available on the car that you base the +25mm of width.
It goes on the placard on the car and not on what the TMR runs according to those who right out the defect notices. It all comes down to what height the wheel is. A 22" wheel is 5" bigger than a 17" (doh and they said I couldnt do maths lol) so that would mean that the tyres would have to be no bigger than 38mm from the rim. Anyone for spray on rubber. I may be proven totally wrong (and it wouldn't be the first time) but I think you would be hard pressed to get something that is 235mm and a low enough aspect ratio.

Old?... Jeez I remember solid rubber!
Dem ol' stone wheelz reely were the beez neez :gfight:

Yeah..it needs doing.

How far did you (and witewalzs too) lower yours? 35mm or so front and back? How much am I looking at, cost wise? (I'll need to prepare my wife for the next little monetary shock).

So on the list at present is K&N (thanks 380matey!), snorkle (not aquired yet), muffler (chatting to a mate who works in an exhaust shop this weekend), lowering, and I haven't even begun to tinker with the stereo. Sigh...I can see many nights on the couch in my immediate future :bash:

I went Kings superlows all round.Springs cost $265 from memory and me and a mate fitted them(not hard to do) which cost me a bottle of scotch!Then about $50-60 for a wheel alignment.

I went Kings superlows all round.Springs cost $265 from memory and me and a mate fitted them(not hard to do) which cost me a bottle of scotch!Then about $50-60 for a wheel alignment.

Did he drink it before or after he fitted them lol!

Did he drink it before or after he fitted them lol!

I can't remember, i was drunk:beer:

It goes on the placard on the car and not on what the TMR runs according to those who right out the defect notices. It all comes down to what height the wheel is. A 22" wheel is 5" bigger than a 17" (doh and they said I couldnt do maths lol) so that would mean that the tyres would have to be no bigger than 38mm from the rim. Anyone for spray on rubber. I may be proven totally wrong (and it wouldn't be the first time) but I think you would be hard pressed to get something that is 235mm and a low enough aspect ratio.

what's the stock rim/tyre size on a 380? I couldn't find it so I was working off the TMR 19s...

225/40r19 OD = 662.6
235/25r22 OD = 676.3

if you can find 235/25r22 tyres then it'd be legal (within 15mm of stock OD).

cheers,
.wook

what's the stock rim/tyre size on a 380? I couldn't find it so I was working off the TMR 19s...

225/40r19 OD = 662.6
235/25r22 OD = 676.3

if you can find 235/25r22 tyres then it'd be legal (within 15mm of stock OD).

cheers,
.wook
The size of the 380 tyres are 215/55/R17

Alright, I just had a lengthy conversation with the Road and Transport Authority (QLD) in respect to the legality of rim and tyre sizes. In QLD we can increase the rim size to ANY size we like as long as the OVERALL DIAMETER of the TYRE does not exceed +15mm or - 26mm. Also the RIM AND TYRE must be within the LOAD RATING and SPEED RATING specifications of the manufacture. As long as these requirements are met, you will have no problems.
For those wanting more information here is the link. Then all you have to do is download the 1st PDF file and read pages 10 - 12 for ALL the info. http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Safety/Road/Standards/Light_vehicle_modifications/

The size of the 380 tyres are 215/55/R17

215/55r17 OD = 668.3
235/25r22 OD = 676.3

or even bigger
245/25r22 OD = 681.3

cheers,
.wook

what's the stock rim/tyre size on a 380? I couldn't find it so I was working off the TMR 19s...

225/40r19 OD = 662.6
235/25r22 OD = 676.3

if you can find 235/25r22 tyres then it'd be legal (within 15mm of stock OD).

cheers,
.wook
Mate the only problem with these sizes...is that no one makes them.

:shrug: looks like they'll need to be certified then.

Mmmm yeah baby bring on the spray on rubber !!!!!!! Hey McHenry arent yours 22"?

Mmmm yeah baby bring on the spray on rubber !!!!!!! Hey McHenry arent yours 22"?
Yep they sure are....

Yep they sure are....

Nice rims but I wouldnt like your tyre bill or lack of choice!!

Pretty much all the big tyre brands make the size we needed. We could get Kumho for round the $300-$400 per tyre.

We are on the look out today for new rims.

Pretty much all the big tyre brands make the size we needed. We could get Kumho for round the $300-$400 per tyre.

We are on the look out today for new rims.

Let us know what you go for.