The joys of having 3rd Gen paras, is that when a head light bulb goes, you don't really notice any difference, its just as crap as before. I have probably been driving for weeks without noticing it.

I've got Narva bulbs in there, been in there for about 3 yrs. I've gone off them considering I had a fog light blow early of the same make as well.

Doing some reading, I've settled for Osram Nightbreaker bulbs. I've only had the chance to drop into Supercheap, and no surprises there that they didn't have any. Does anyone know there these can be found?

i got Osram Nightbreakers for my KS and TL from http://stores.shop.ebay.com.au/Power-Bulbs-Direct__W0QQ_armrsZ1 I got no issues with them or the product, and it turns out they seem pretty cheap :)

Very good bulbs. I'll be getting a set too when I got some free $$
Best bet, Ebay UK
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=osram+nightbreaker&_sacat=See-All-Categories

or that lol ^^

Ah excellent. I saw them on ebay and was astounded at how cheap they were going for there, but wasn't too keen to buy OS.

How long did it take for them to come over?

Ah excellent. I saw them on ebay and was astounded at how cheap they were going for there, but wasn't too keen to buy OS.

How long did it take for them to come over?

about a week from memory..... but for the price, can you really demand for more?

Not really :)

Was willing to pay a bit of a premium to get them quick and fix the problem, but a week is pretty quick.

Thanks for the help, ordering them now!

Osram nightbreakers are sold here by NARVA

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1109632&postcount=16

Not really :)

Was willing to pay a bit of a premium to get them quick and fix the problem, but a week is pretty quick.

Thanks for the help, ordering them now!

If you really wanted them quick, you can get them at repco. I was in the same boat about 3 weeks ago. I wanted them fast so i bought the re-packaged narva ones. They weren't cheap though. I brought a pair of the H3, H7 and H1 bulbs and cost me just on $200. They were roughly $70 a pair for each set.

They work really well though so im happy.

Best place to get them is here:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1094604&postcount=12

like AU$42 delivered plus free parkers.

trust me though, Philips X-Treme is better for low beam range + intensity

Are H7's our headlight bulb?

Are H7's our headlight bulb?

Not sure for other Magna's but for the VRX/Parabolics:

Low Beam: H7
High Beam: H1
Fog Light: H3

I got the h4's from the ebay link for $25, only took a week to get here after payment was cleared, seem to be very nice bulbs so far, havent been out in the open with them yet.

I ordered from powerbulbs, all up it was about $27AUD I think. At less than 50% of the local price, I'm happy to wait an extra few days.

I read many a review on the Philips vs Osram, and it seems to go either way. I'll post up some pics of the beam spread (courtesy of the verada paras) if I get a chance. I'm really interested to see how well these perform.

just also bought some :) My bulbs now are rubbish so they cant be any worse ;)

Osram nightbreakers are sold here by NARVA

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1109632&postcount=16

A bit too late now, anon, but repco was having a 30% off sell of all their Narva bulbs, including the bluepower.

On a side topic, I'd really like to do a comparison study. Have people with standard bulbs, bluepower and extreme in paras, including TL/TW ones park in a dark street at night with their low beams on and take a photo with the camera resting ontop of the steering wheel. Also one with highbeam and post it here. Don't you lowlight exposure, just the standard exposure.

^^^I know its mentioned a few times here... the Osram's are definitely not the same as the Narva ones... close but not the same... Osram's are a tad yellower. and bulb design is different.

Sounds to me like a case of "yeah these intercoolers are made from the same factory as Greddy" syndrome.. and even if Osram did rebadge as Narva they couldn't sell the exact same as the Narva ones are ADR approved and Osram not.. there would have to be a slight difference.


But after having a few different bulbs from powerbulbs now on a few different housings including parabolics, standard and projector type:
- Osram Nightbreakers are excellent for projector type high beams
- Phillips X-Treme is unbelievable in low beam clarity, range and intensity.... i'm kinda night blind especially if the road is wet and these things light the road properly.


I'm not convinced with the Osram in my parabolic low beam, sure it's better than standard and whiter (but still yellowish) but i'm willing to bet the Philips bulb will win in this housing simply because of bulb design and protrusion versus actual parabolic housing design.

Look at the pics of both bulbs i posted....
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1094604&postcount=12

the osram nightbreakers work better in my TL as compared to my KS on low beam, the high beam in both are about the same.

^^^I know its mentioned a few times here... the Osram's are definitely not the same as the Narva ones... close but not the same... Osram's are a tad yellower. and bulb design is different.

Sounds to me like a case of "yeah these intercoolers are made from the same factory as Greddy" syndrome.. and even if Osram did rebadge as Narva they couldn't sell the exact same as the Narva ones are ADR approved and Osram not.. there would have to be a slight difference.


But after having a few different bulbs from powerbulbs now on a few different housings including parabolics, standard and projector type:
- Osram Nightbreakers are excellent for projector type high beams
- Phillips X-Treme is unbelievable in low beam clarity, range and intensity.... i'm kinda night blind especially if the road is wet and these things light the road properly.


I'm not convinced with the Osram in my parabolic low beam, sure it's better than standard and whiter (but still yellowish) but i'm willing to bet the Philips bulb will win in this housing simply because of bulb design and protrusion versus actual parabolic housing design.

Look at the pics of both bulbs i posted....
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1094604&postcount=12

As I mentioned before. I've contacted OSRAM via email and received an email from OSRAM stating that they do not sell bulbs for the auto industry in Oz directly. They rely on Narva to resell (rebadged as Narva). The Osram Nightbreaker is fully ECE approved and ADR accepts that and hence the packaging is relabelled in the Oz market with ADR approval.

This link (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1112247&highlight=pics+packaging+bought#post1112247) shows the packaging of the Narva BluePower.
Following are pics of the Osram and Narva H4 bulbs

Vlad is right,i sell narva etc at work and heard about the osram nightbreaker being the same bloge,low and behold,it has the osram name and part number (nighbreaker) embosed on it,so yes,they are one and the same

Yep OK.. went to Repco yesterday and asked...

The reason for the Osram's getting rebadged as Narva and being sold as ADR approved Narva item's in AUS came down to logistics and the ADR approval to "Minor Design Change"

Took a picture of the lights and compared again to the Osrams I have installed and their close to identical... with the only known difference now as the packaging statement:
- Osrams have 90% more light and 10% whiter
- Narva have 80% more light and 20% whiter

^^^thats probably what caused the ADR approval and certification, so not completely identical but then it means it's safer to have the Narva installed for "Random RBTs" since they still book people for blue coated lights

Osram nightbreakers are sold here by NARVA

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1109632&postcount=16

except you pay a premium for the brand name :)

I installed the globes last night. I haven't driven with them yet, but the static illumination is impressive and noticeably better than what I had before (NARVA Arctic Blue). With the Arctic Blues (and the stock globes before), I would often drive with fog lights on to give better illumination. With the static artic blue beam, it was very visible where the fog lights filled in the gaps. With the Nightbreakers, I turn the fog lights on, and I wouldn't even know there were on as the Nightbreakers give supreme illumination. Though I'm wondering how much they might dazzle oncoming vehicles as the beam seems to go higher up.

Artic blue (Right KH parabolic low beam only):
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t182/mdoecke/ArcticBlue.jpg

Nightbreaker (Right KH parabolic low beam only):
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t182/mdoecke/Nightbreaker.jpg

The Arctic had reasonable coverage with a noticeable centre hot spot. The Nightbreaker seems to give a broader beam with greater illumination throughout, although the hotspot is still there.

Colourwise, it seems very similar to the arctic blue, which is ADR approved. I have the arctic blues still in the fog lights, and looking at both, theres nothing in it.

Just ordered a Set for Low beam and high beams yesterday and cannot wait to get these in.

i've been telling you about this globes since Feb 09 paullie... took you long enough to follow up :P, was hoping for someone with the philips x-treme to compare notes with me...

i've been telling you about this globes since Feb 09 paullie... took you long enough to follow up :P, was hoping for someone with the philips x-treme to compare notes with me...

Well I didnt have $70 spare until NOW thats why :P

Just did the shopping and on my way I go through road that cuts through a national park, with no street lighting. What the headlights gave was very impressive... infact I was shocked that I accepted what I had before, this is something else. It by far is one of the best value mods I've done to a car.

Also big ups to the LED head lamp For years I persisted with balancing torches or holding a torch in one hand to aim the lighting and trying to manipulate something one handed. Last night was the first time I used one of those head strap light deals, and it made the job so freakin easy...in fact I'm embarrassed I persisted so long without them, one of those things that once you use you never know how you did without them.

Glad someone had good thoughts about these Osram Nightbreaker, I thought I would be the only one that would have them for a while, but have recommended it to others when asked.

Glad someone had good thoughts about these Osram Nightbreaker, I thought I would be the only one that would have them for a while, but have recommended it to others when asked.

Bit of a threadlike but I put my lowbeams in today, made a big difference. I'm gonna order some high beams now too. Great value for money!

i've been telling you about this globes since Feb 09 paullie... took you long enough to follow up :P, was hoping for someone with the philips x-treme to compare notes with me...

Boozer, I have the Phillips and would be interested to compare as if yours are better will get a set

I know the phillips are a massive improvement over the std lights, running parras you need everything you can get

which car would you like to use to compare, i got them in both cars, those globes seemed to work alot better in the TL than the KS though (just better parabola design i guess). Best comparision is when Dave and I line up our cars in a dark street.