went to my local supplier today, to buy oil and filter, and asked for a Ryco filter as i have used them for years without any problems, and they reccomended to not buy them as the quility of their produts has falllen.
with anti drain back valves not working, gaskets blowing, and thread issues.
they suggested a cooper filter as the quality is much better and a little cheaper too.

Yep. Had an issue with a Ryco too. The wrong thread was in it. Not pleased considering i had a car with no oil in it and on ramps at the time... Buy genuine thats all i will say.

Same here, just about every ryco filter we've had drains back and rattles everything on a cold start until oil pressure comes up.

I've put Ryco filters on my SS and on my sister's Focus. No issues yet but with all these complaints i might switch back to genuine filters.

ive got 2 ryco filters in the shed for the boss, im gunna use one for an engine flush and cut the other one open and see how it compares to a US made (NOT ASIAN MADE) motorcraft filter and a K&N filter.

ive been hearing more and more about ryco dropping the ball so i want to see with my own eyes instead of listening to opinions.

at $10/filter more i can see value in a more expensive product

The new RYCO filters are made in South Africa not Australia as they use to be
Cooper and a lot of cheaper brands are made in the PRC (Peoples Republic of China)
I only buy Pure One or Purlator filters as they are made in the USA and there is no cold start rattle at all
http://www.purolator.com.au/

cooper aka wesfil filters, are made in china, or tiwan, can't remember exactly.. but i get them for $4.50 each..

to me.. well pay for peanuts you get monkeys..

Just oil filters?

I use their air filters too. Any feedback on their quality dropping?

that could be amusing for us

for every car that comes in and wants non-genuine parts, we use ryco filters. haha

Same here, just about every ryco filter we've had drains back and rattles everything on a cold start until oil pressure comes up.

Mate you might have just solved a problem I've been having for ages. I have a ryco oil filter and sometimes in the morning I get this loud rattle on start up. The car runs fine so never bothered putting the time or money into solving it but yea might change the filter and see whats what.

Interesting.......I'll probably leave the ryco off the next oil change and stick with the pureone's

Mate you might have just solved a problem I've been having for ages. I have a ryco oil filter and sometimes in the morning I get this loud rattle on start up. The car runs fine so never bothered putting the time or money into solving it but yea might change the filter and see whats what.

Could very well be the heat shields on the exhaust manifolds, was the case with my own.

;1133374']Interesting.......I'll probably leave the ryco off the next oil change and stick with the pureone's

make sure ya get the blue one, not white. the white is made in china and blue in the states, so i hear.

also theres heaps smarter guys here than me, so if someone else wants to cut open the filters ill send them to you to cut open and test. although all filters i have bought are for a boss V8. i think the test would still be relevant

make sure ya get the blue one, not white. the white is made in china and blue in the states, so i hear.

Thanks for the headsup.
I'll be using Royal purple next change so anyone have any BETTER filters to use?

Could very well be the heat shields on the exhaust manifolds, was the case with my own.

I'll have a look into that too. Just bolt it down tighter?

;1133391']Thanks for the headsup.
I'll be using Royal purple next change so anyone have any BETTER filters to use?

if ya can find the blue ones buy a couple, as most stores are not stocking them now and are selling them below cost

I'll have a look into that too. Just bolt it down tighter?

I just took mine off lol

Most Ryco filters are made in Indonesia,thats what ive read on the boxes,i have used Phoenix filters with no problems to date.
You cant beat geniune.

Pretty much always used Ryco...havn't had a problem yet, but after this thread am a little worried.

I've noticed too that the physical dimensions of the oil filters are getting smaller, and smaller and smaller...... To the point that filter clamps wont actually bite the sodding filter, even straps have a hard time. Screw-driver thru the side.... :doubt:

I use Amsoil filters. Not cheap though, around 28 bucks.

I use Amsoil filters. Not cheap though, around 28 bucks.

I've started to use them also, expensive, but they last longer....thanks to your contacts Ange.

I use Amsoil filters. Not cheap though, around 28 bucks.

Where does one acquire this brand?

So with what people are using, what's a good filter to use? (Mitsi's, K&N, Amsoil, Purolator...)

well this is news to me, we sell approx 100k of ryco oil filters a month and have not had an issue in 3 years,

I personally use "drift" branded oil filters only because i cut one open and compared to k&n and found drift is double pleated cotton and k&n single and also the drift filter has an internal magnet, anti drain back valve,

cooper / wesfil don't have anti drain back valves, valvoline well theres a reason most places are getting out of them,


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The Mitsubishi ones around here are cheaper than Ryco and are probably adequate for the purpose.

Where does one acquire this brand?

I get it from a distibutor in the Adelaide hills. Was regularly getting my Bike oil and filter so i opted for Amsoil in The Verada also. The oil and filter are good for 25000 klicks.

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eao.aspx

This thread scares me lol, I've been using them for a while now and have had no problems. My dad has been using them for years and with no problem.

Skipped a lot of posts so sorry if has been covered allready

For starters, Magna's dont need anti drian back as they are mounted upside down and remain full of oil

Secondly there is not such thing as a "genuine" filter given that mists do not actually make them.

I use AC Delco, have for years and these days use the cheaper version made in the same factory in Indonesia Sakura, have used them on all my cars as well as my customers cars and not had a second of issue with any of them. They have the sprung ball pressure relief valve as well

The issue with Ryco and many others is they have chosen to go milti fit thus they use the one filter for a series of applications, thus you may get a filter that even screws on but at the same time the bypass pressure is too low.

As for genuine, agian as I said they are not made by Mitsubishi, I was told by a dealer a few years ago that they were actually AC Delco made and another told me they were FSA made, both of which are all made in Indo these days in the same factory as Sakura.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that has noticed. I thought it was my imagination for a while, and yes, screwdriver thru the side seems to be a standard removal technique of late.

I've noticed too that the physical dimensions of the oil filters are getting smaller, and smaller and smaller...... To the point that filter clamps wont actually bite the sodding filter, even straps have a hard time. Screw-driver thru the side.... :doubt:

Dont use a screw driver unless you want to snap off your thread

Use a big pair of multigrips, that is what i have always used

I'm glad I'm not the only one that has noticed. I thought it was my imagination for a while, and yes, screwdriver thru the side seems to be a standard removal technique of late.

Yeah i have noticed plenty of that requirement to of late.. All Ryco. Mmmmmm.:)

Thought I was going crazy when they kept getting smaller, almost down to a smaller tool

Thought I was going crazy when they kept getting smaller, almost down to a smaller tool

They are so small at my end i cant use a tool anymore.. Just have to use my hands..:)

my end is so small i cant use my tool anymore.. Just have to use my hands..:)

It's a damn shame man, a damn shame :-(

Slightly off topic...sorry

Was changing the oil in the work vehicle the other day which has a rather large filter that mounts upside down, and due to the sway bar and other junk in the way you can't bring the thing down without tipping it which makes a heck of a mess.

And then i thought, why couldn't the filter have its own little plug to drain the oil sitting in it before you take it off?
Is there any reason why this wouldn't work or create a problem? have any manufacturers already done this?

Cause i could imagine it would make the job alot cleaner....

For the last few years I have had a prob sourcing good oil and air filters. Because of price many companies are having filters made in different countries. Cooper and Wesfil are linked to Ryco. The Ryco filters that were made in Aus were good (but now sourced from numerous other countries). The ones made in South Africa are good. Even some genuine filters are made in third world countries and for example wife's Pulsar filters were made in Japan, now the ones in Nissan boxes are made elsewhere. So next time will probably get a Subaru filter...expensive, but likely to do a good job if made in Japan. Mitsubishi filters (for Magna ) are reasonably price and made in Japan. Kinda argument I get at Auto 1 is ....mate all the local mechanics use these filter and we never have complaints. Point is local mechanic probably doesn't care if there is extra wear in his client's engine...probably welcomes it, just so long as can't point a finger at him and anyway some of them haven't a clue what a good filter is anyway. What is starting to pis- me is that many products dont' name manufacturing country...so i don't buy these. I have a stock of 5 Mitsu filters sitting in my shed at about $15 each...will last me a while. Another thing that pis-es me is poor quality of Valvoline filters, but their oil is good.....or have I opened a new debate?

i have not had a problem then again i change my oil filter every 5000km with the oil

Secondly there is not such thing as a "genuine" filter given that mists do not actually make them.


That may be the case but i doubt Mits would sell one in their own box that doesn't fit the car. I know that stuff sold through Mits works hence the reason i buy it. And its worth the extra few dollars because of that.

Its like non genuine distributor caps interfering with LPG ECU's... ;)

well this is news to me, we sell approx 100k of ryco oil filters a month and have not had an issue in 3 years,

I personally use "drift" branded oil filters only because i cut one open and compared to k&n and found drift is double pleated cotton and k&n single and also the drift filter has an internal magnet, anti drain back valve,

cooper / wesfil don't have anti drain back valves, valvoline well theres a reason most places are getting out of them,


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wat!!!! thats the reason i bought the cooper as they said its much better than the ryco as its anti drain back filter doesnt have issues.

Hehehehe, spot on Dave

I use the Fram Extraguard (orange/black) $13 for me (NZ). The grip on the body makes them easy to get on and off without tools, and ive cut one open and it seemed to be well made. They are made in Canada (if i remember right). I use the fram air filters too.

That may be the case but i doubt Mits would sell one in their own box that doesn't fit the car. I know that stuff sold through Mits works hence the reason i buy it. And its worth the extra few dollars because of that.

Its like non genuine distributor caps interfering with LPG ECU's... ;)

Yeah, that one still has me as it was a Champion cap and Mits use Champion caps in the factory hmmmmmm

Again, if you want to pay the extra $$ for a genuine one that is your choice however that does not mean that others are not as good or better

Lets face it, I have fitted more oil filters than most have had hot meals and I have not had these issues, for all you know the filter in the box you got was not the right one or they gave you the wrong listing :)

for all you know the filter in the box you got was not the right one or they gave you the wrong listing :)

The one they gave me had the right number on the box and the body of the filter but had a different size hole and thread arrangement. So on paper it was right, in practice wrong!

Last time i was at supercheap, i remember the valvoline filter been bigger than the fram, yet i just couldnt get the valvoline, even though it was $3 cheaper. i used fram on my old trooper and never had problems and even though they are smaller, i think this is down to using better filter mediums, thus no longer needing a larger filter area. i will look into the fram powerguard (next level up from extraguard) next time and see how much more they cost. hey how about next time you guys do an oil change, cut open your brand and post up a pic for comparision.

Regarding the filter size issue i think it comes down to the service/oil change intervals. Here's a pic i took when i did the oil change on my sister's Focus (OEM filter on left, Ryco filter on right). It has service intervals of 15,000km which is why i think the OEM filter is bigger. But since i do the oil changes on her car every 7,500km the filter size is a non issue for me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Focus/oilchange12.jpg

make sure ya get the blue one, not white. the white is made in china and blue in the states, so i hear.


Yep different countries
The blue Pure Ones (for my XR8) made in the USofA and the white Purelator (for the old XF I had) made in Mehicko (Mexico)

Did an oil change on my SS today (last one was 5,000 km ago). Took off the Ryco filter and replaced it with a genuine GM one (made in Poland of all places). Couldn't really see any issues with the Ryco one i took off.

Was also speaking to Harold of PerformanceLub (http://www.performancelub.com/) today when i picked up my oil and he had not heard of any issues with Ryco filters. He mentioned it could have just been a bad batch of filters but he hasn't heard any negative feedback from his customers about Ryco filters.

could be that the place that said they were dodgy probably makes more off selling the dearer filter. just a thought.

could be that the place that said they were dodgy probably makes more off selling the dearer filter. just a thought.

no places have told me theyre dodgy, just forum members who care about their cars. however, it wouldnt be the first time forum members have noticed things that didnt actually happen :tired:

no places have told me theyre dodgy, just forum members who care about their cars. however, it wouldnt be the first time forum members have noticed things that didnt actually happen :tired:
Haha yeh that's what i was thinking. In the case of my SS i will prolly stick with genuine GM filters from now on as they are the same price as Ryco filters.

In the case of my mum's and sister's Focus i'll go with Ryco filters as it's cheaper than the bigger genuine Motorcraft filters.

this is information ive been looking at regarding oil filters for a BA XR8 (RYCO Z516). its not a bad read in regards to different brands

http://home.mindspring.com/~ed_white/id7.html

also, does anyone know where i can get pureone oil filters? part number PL24651

this is information ive been looking at regarding oil filters for a BA XR8 (RYCO Z516). its not a bad read in regards to different brands

http://home.mindspring.com/~ed_white/id7.html

also, does anyone know where i can get pureone oil filters? part number PL24651

Google is your friend. Amazon.com has them cheap at US $9.48 for 2 pack (save US$21.64 apparently)

http://www.amazon.com/Purolator-PL24651-PureONE-Filter-Pack/dp/B000H81CFC


In Australia:
http://www.fordforums.com.au/printthread.php?t=11274516
this post below was dated late Sept 09

mate they are a great filter ive been using them professionally for years ,...its whats inside that counts ,.....but i can understand your dissapointment ,...@$30 i guess i would expect my oil filter to win the best paint award as well,
Autobhan can be expensive they pitch to the retail punter ,..you can get them for around $15 retail ,..Supercheap are running Purolator out @$8...try & grab a couple that will offset your filter costs for future oil changes

yeah ive been watching that tread on ffa, but it seems sca is all out :(

yeah ive been watching that tread on ffa, but it seems sca is all out :(

Suggestion: Get your friendly AMC members to check their local SCAs for you as often when the local store is out and have checked with regional warehouse there may still be heaps at local stores elsewhere.

Suggestion: Get your friendly AMC members to check their local SCAs for you as often when the local store is out and have checked with regional warehouse there may still be heaps at local stores elsewhere.

ive asked the friendly ones that i know lol

ive asked the friendly ones that i know lol

Hey thats the same filter ive got on my ford..... well i guess cos its the "blue" coloured version that it is the one (normal purolators are white i think?)

Hey thats the same filter ive got on my ford..... well i guess cos its the "blue" coloured version that it is the one (normal purolators are white i think?)

correct, blue ones are made in usa

correct, blue ones are made in usa

May see if i can source some more from my local parts place, as my car is nearly due for its 15000km service.

May see if i can source some more from my local parts place, as my car is nearly due for its 15000km service.

ive already pm'd you lol

Worst Ryco oil filter I saw recently was sealed up still with plastic wrap on it and water inside and rusty. Box was dry too so it wasn't the retailers fault. It must have come from Ryco/Ryco distributor like that.

Cheers,
Alan

As for genuine, agian as I said they are not made by Mitsubishi, I was told by a dealer a few years ago that they were actually AC Delco made and another told me they were FSA made, both of which are all made in Indo these days in the same factory as Sakura.

Well, that can be the case with a lot of car companies then. But it still means they are made to spec and tested accordingly beforehand.
They are still 'Genuine'.

Mitsi Magna filters are made in Japan.


Dont use a screw driver unless you want to snap off your thread

Use a big pair of multigrips, that is what i have always used

How? You mean, if one was to stab at a stupid angle?