Has anyone here turboed their 2nd gen? Or does anyone know anyone who has? I'm interested in the cost, performance and fuel consumption of turboing a 2nd gen. Isn't it better to have the carby than the fuel injected 2.6L for turboing also??

its easier to turbo a efi over a carby

Does anyone here have a ball-park figure on how much it would cost to turbo charge the 2.6L astron for a TR Magna?? I'm interested in doing it but don't want pay a ludicrous amount of $$ if it's not going to be that much faster. People will say it depends on what kind of a turbo you have but could anyone put down a recommended turbo charger and a figure of some sort??

I would love to turbo my car, ne info would be handy as well :D

youd have to ask Dave (mitsiman) but itd have to be more than $5000. the one for the3rd gens is $7000-8000, so a bit less than that

Trav

youd have to ask Dave (mitsiman) but itd have to be more than $5000. the one for the3rd gens is $7000-8000, so a bit less than that

Trav
no way would it be that much. there only talking a fairly basic 4 cylinder so it will be heaps easier. again though everyone has to remember you get what you pay for. what sort of a setup and performance you end up with is only going to be bound by how much money you have.

my mate turbo'd his lancer cost him $9000 all up

boys, boys, boys!

look at the four cylinder motor out of the magna. where did it come from?? was there a (shock horror!!) turbo'd version of this car ever released from the factory??????


sigma gsr came stock turbo'd from the factory!!!
sure it's a carby, but exhaust manifolds are the same so you are saving money there straight away, if you are running efi, then an aftermarket computer and maybe a de-compression plate in the head would be all you needed to get motoring???

although, if you had the self control to not wind the boost past about 5 or 6 psi, you could probably run it with stock internals for a while as well!!

then if you have the computer, you could get cams and a proper tuned length manifold at a later date!!

slow and steady wins the race(in the long run!)

no way would it be that much. there only talking a fairly basic 4 cylinder so it will be heaps easier. again though everyone has to remember you get what you pay for. what sort of a setup and performance you end up with is only going to be bound by how much money you have.


I got quoted $12000 for a turbo conversion by RPW...

$2000 manual conversion
$3000 engine strenghthening / rebuild
$7000 turbo conversion

on a 1992 4cyl TR auto

boys, boys, boys!

look at the four cylinder motor out of the magna. where did it come from?? was there a (shock horror!!) turbo'd version of this car ever released from the factory??????


sigma gsr came stock turbo'd from the factory!!!
sure it's a carby, but exhaust manifolds are the same so you are saving money there straight away, if you are running efi, then an aftermarket computer and maybe a de-compression plate in the head would be all you needed to get motoring???

although, if you had the self control to not wind the boost past about 5 or 6 psi, you could probably run it with stock internals for a while as well!!

then if you have the computer, you could get cams and a proper tuned length manifold at a later date!!

slow and steady wins the race(in the long run!)



i am sooo looking into that

although, if you had the self control to not wind the boost past about 5 or 6 psi, you could probably run it with stock internals for a while as well!!

Just on that matter - the Astron engine is EXTREMELY strong, and you should be able to get lasting perfomance at 12psi on stock internals :D

I started going ahead with this as recent as about 5/6 weeks ago but have since pulled the pin mainly due to the cost involved.
I had a manifold made up (which he screwed up somehow) and had ordered an intercooler along with EMS and 5 speed box etc. I also have a garret TO4 which i have since sold due to the plans falling through.

IMO - you wont have any change left out of 5K - maybe 4K if your lucky. considering my car is only worth 3K - ive decided against turbo'ing a heavy car and to build another project instead - this project doesnt have a turbo but 8 cylinders - going back to my roots from where i once came - but the TR will remain my daily driver for some time yet.

good luck to anyone that does it - definate sleeper material :D

I plan to turbo my ts eventually, im getting closer now, just picked up the parts for my manual conversion yesterday, then it will hopefully be a replacement ecu(once my wallet recovers) after that bring on the boost! lol :D

i didnt think you could use the parts from the sigma turbo coz that was a rear-wheel drive while ours is a front wheel drive hence manifold and the entire setup is gonna be fairly different.

dunno bout the 2.6l 4cyl engines but i know that the gto enigne will fit int he v6 tr shaped magnas, i wanted to put that engine into my car but was completly mirrored
something to look into for tr ts v6 owners i reakon

its easier to turbo a efi over a carby

ARE YOU FRIGGEN JOKING :nuts:

A suck thru carbi setup is by far the EASIEST way to boost a car. bar none!

followed by blow through

if i was to boost a magna i would do away with the efi and just do a blow thru carbi setup, cost alot less and would make nearly as much power

it wouldn't be as efficient tho.

:!: beware the astrons are incredibly prone to hot spots and predet :!:

no way would it be that much. there only talking a fairly basic 4 cylinder so it will be heaps easier. again though everyone has to remember you get what you pay for. what sort of a setup and performance you end up with is only going to be bound by how much money you have.

the cost of turbo'ing a car so it will last is definatly that much. your talking dished pistons or combustion chamber grinding, complete EMS unit, tuning, manifold, piping, turbo, injectors, ect ect

Has anyone here turboed their 2nd gen? Or does anyone know anyone who has? I'm interested in the cost, performance and fuel consumption of turboing a 2nd gen. Isn't it better to have the carby than the fuel injected 2.6L for turboing also??
Yep,1 of my mates is gettin his 92 2.6L Maroon TR Single Turbo'd,now before the Turbz is in,it had these mod's Done:

Auto to Manual Conversion(Did himself and a Friend in under a Day,for less than 2500,2nd hand)
Lowered
Racing Extractors,Exhaust,Tip

Now:Engine:Brand New 0(zero)K's 2.6L-Bored out to a 2.8L :shock:
Strengthened Everythin
Turbo:GT30 ball-bearing Turbo :shock: :shock:

Not sure what kinda intercooler,BOV etc
And the figure for all this is arounddd $8,000-$10,000
This is a SLEEPER!!
When this beast is ready to go I will U/L pics,For u 2nd gen guys,or any1 else who's interested.Keep ya's posted.

The starion came from the factory with a 2.6l Turbo Intercooled also. The only difference is that it was rwd and had a terrible Throttlebody Injection setup. Many of us here in the United States are converting to the magna MPI intake and using an aftermarket Fuel management system. I myself am looking for an intake from the L300 for my starion. I'm also looking for a magna astron Gen2 Head. We have many parts for the turbo'd engine here. If anyone needs anything Just send me an email. Parts are fairly cheap. Right now there are three or four turbos for sale for $120.00 US on the forum.

The starion came from the factory with a 2.6l Turbo Intercooled also.

didn't the starion come with the 2L 4G62 or 2.4L 4G64???

Tim

didn't the starion come with the 2L 4G62 or 2.4L 4G64???

Tim

In Australia it did come with a 2.0 cuase we got shafted :cry: , in the states they got the wide body starions with the 2.6 turbo in them :badgrin:

We never received a single car with Multi point injection on a 4g54. About 2-3 years ago no one Had a starion with Mpi We have been using the TBI or throttle body injection. Finally we are catching on to the Aussies. :D Right now I'm looking for a tr intake manifold for my 2.6l Starion.

i didnt think you could use the parts from the sigma turbo coz that was a rear-wheel drive while ours is a front wheel drive hence manifold and the entire setup is gonna be fairly different.


you would not be able to use the exhaust after the turbo because that would be turing left instead of going under the motor, like the current setup, but how much would a new turbo back exhaust be, not much! i reckon you would get away with under a grand easy, as long as you didn't put a fancy muffler on the end!

dunno bout the 2.6l 4cyl engines but i know that the gto enigne will fit int he v6 tr shaped magnas, i wanted to put that engine into my car but was completly mirrored
something to look into for tr ts v6 owners i reakon


that MOTOR might fit but what about the two big turbos? one trying to go through the radiator and the other , the firewall??

the motor will , but the turbos wont!!(without some major conversions)

Umm I wouldn't bother with the 4 cylinder turboing. You might as well get a Jap import turbo car for that money, once the conversion is done properly.

What about going the whole hog.

Theres the DOHC 3L V6 out of the 3000GT that Killbilly has shown to bolt into V6 TR's. This motor also came out as a turbo FWD and for the real craziness

Twin Simultaneous Turbo :nuts:

The 6G72 twin turbo engine has been proven to fit in a TR/TS Magna. Just check on Fast Magna.

just to clear something up
some said that the gsr sigma was turbo stock
the gsr sigma was not in fact turbo it was just dressed up a bit
however there was a turbo sigma released but this was not the 2.6L it was a 2L
so i don't think the parts are interchangable
but there has been many 2.6L sigmas turboed aftermarket
which is the same engine as TM thru to TS magna
although with some changes like efi
and i always thought the starions were 2.2 or 2.4
but im not so familar with these vehicles.

back to the gto engine ur looking at about 6000+ for a front cut last time i checked
but the big thing is does it fit?

just to clear something up
some said that the gsr sigma was turbo stock
the gsr sigma was not in fact turbo it was just dressed up a bit
however there was a turbo sigma released but this was not the 2.6L it was a 2L
so i don't think the parts are interchangable
but there has been many 2.6L sigmas turboed aftermarket
which is the same engine as TM thru to TS magna
although with some changes like efi
and i always thought the starions were 2.2 or 2.4
but im not so familar with these vehicles.

back to the gto engine ur looking at about 6000+ for a front cut last time i checked
but the big thing is does it fit?

the big turbos are actually only little ones, i was offered a half cut for $2500 but only to fined its completly backwards from my engine

The starions were 2.0L everywhere but the U.S. Here we got the 2.6L 4g54. It came stock with Rear wheel drive, Turbocharged/Intercooled, four wheel disc brakes, and a Limited slip differential. Our problem is it never came with Multi point injection. A couple of years ago we found out that with minor modifications the magna EFI inlet manifold would fit our cars. The 2gen magna 2.6Liter heads will also fit our motor. They are superior to the heads that came with our engines as the stock heads here are prone to cracking. Many people are looking for these parts for their Starion and a car that dodge imported under the name Conquest TSI. Unfortunately there were no DOHC Heads produced for this engine. There were a total of about 10 made by HKS but they are impossible to find.

The 6G72 twin turbo engine has been proven to fit in a TR/TS Magna. Just check on Fast Magna.

That wasnt a bolt in proposition, nor was it cheap to make it fit.

I know Craig personally and I asked him a lot of questions about it, not a cheap swap from a 4cyl

That wasnt a bolt in proposition, nor was it cheap to make it fit.

I know Craig personally and I asked him a lot of questions about it, not a cheap swap from a 4cyl
I could DEFENITELY belive that :redface: