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chrisv
10-10-2009, 06:18 PM
Anyone know where you can pickup a modified rear skirt which has 2 tail pipe outlets?

Grubco
10-10-2009, 06:42 PM
I asked this ages ago... and as I learnt (unless things have changed) - there aren't any. The exhaust shop guy cuts it out himself, copying the shape of the original outlet. The new outlet therefore does not have the inner lip... but from standing up behind your car you'll never see this. It just comes down to whether you want to cut into your bumper - or you buy a second one, cut it, and keep your original one (bit $$$ though).
A few people here have done this, so they can surely give more info than me. If I do any further mods to my car, this would be the next one.

MCHenry
10-10-2009, 06:56 PM
Have a chat to Allan at TMR. The part of the bumper bar is actually a clip on piece and im pretty sure that they were manufacturing a few of them (please correct me if im wrong). Also shoot mytsgt95 a pm as he did his own with an AWESOME result...here is the link (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62854&page=10/)

witewalzs
10-10-2009, 09:51 PM
That series 3 VRX thats for sale in a recent thread has twin pipes,is this not a factory setup?

TreeAdeyMan
11-10-2009, 04:37 AM
That series 3 VRX thats for sale in a recent thread has twin pipes,is this not a factory setup?

Nup, never was a factory setup other than the TMR.

As Grubco says, it usually means cutting a hole in the passenger side of the bar to match the existing hole in the driver side, that's what I did to mine. As Grub also says, you don't get a lip or recess this way, it's just a straight cut, but you can't see any difference unless you have a really close look. That's how it works for the base model ES/SX /Platinum one piece rear bar. I had a quote from a panel beater to make it the same as the driver side hole, with a lip, but he wanted $400 so I gave it a miss.

If you have an SX, LX, VRX or GT with the lower bar insert then you'll need to do something a little different, as suggested by MCHenry.

KJ.

White
11-10-2009, 06:54 AM
ive got the twin outlet setup. ive got bthe tmr carbon fibre inserts. these will only fit s3 vrx bars. need to contact tmr. not sure if he still makes them. also aint cheap. cost me $140 for the two.

EDIT: pics added

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc24/magna1995/pics044.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc24/magna1995/pics043.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc24/magna1995/pics042.jpg

Grubco
11-10-2009, 09:14 AM
I was about to add a post mentioning those carbon fibre inserts, but didn't realise they only fit the S3 bumper - so useless for us non-VRX/GT owners.
But at least our 380 muffler arch doesn't have an external lip-hump (like VE ute)... that would be much harder ($$$) to duplicate. We only need to cut out some plastic.
My 2 concerns are that it is done right, and that I need to chose new mufflers as people have said the large Berklee does not fit on the other side. Ideally I'd like to see/hear another 380 with dualies on... but nothing in NSW alas.

MCHenry
11-10-2009, 10:54 AM
ive got the twin outlet setup. ive got bthe tmr carbon fibre inserts. these will only fit s3 vrx bars. need to contact tmr. not sure if he still makes them. also aint cheap. cost me $140 for the two.
Are you positive about that. From what iv seen the SII (VRX-GT-including the Platinum) rear bar is the same as the SIII (VRX-GT) rear bar. The SIII platinum didnt have the exterior upgrades like the SII did.

Foozrcool
12-10-2009, 06:30 AM
I was about to add a post mentioning those carbon fibre inserts, but didn't realise they only fit the S3 bumper - so useless for us non-VRX/GT owners.
But at least our 380 muffler arch doesn't have an external lip-hump (like VE ute)... that would be much harder ($$$) to duplicate. We only need to cut out some plastic.
My 2 concerns are that it is done right, and that I need to chose new mufflers as people have said the large Berklee does not fit on the other side. Ideally I'd like to see/hear another 380 with dualies on... but nothing in NSW alas.

Grubco, I have some huge Supercats under the rear on both sides & fitted ok. The plastic guard for the fuel filler can be sliced a fair bit if needed although I didn't have to.

MCHenry
12-10-2009, 07:14 AM
Grubco, I have some huge Supercats under the rear on both sides & fitted ok. The plastic guard for the fuel filler can be sliced a fair bit if needed although I didn't have to.

Hey Fooz, do you know the measurements of your supercats? Im looking at duel 5x8in oval by 14" in length.

Foozrcool
12-10-2009, 09:48 AM
Hey Fooz, do you know the measurements of your supercats? Im looking at duel 5x8in oval by 14" in length.

Just ran a tape measure over them & they are 6.5"x12"x18" 2.25" straight throughs. Look tough from the rear as they look huge.

MCHenry
12-10-2009, 10:02 AM
SWEET JESUS.....they are huge! What tip you got on them?

chrisv
12-10-2009, 10:04 AM
Just ran a tape measure over them & they are 6.5"x12"x18" 2.25" straight throughs. Look tough from the rear as they look huge.

OOHH! Lets see, lets see!!!:woot:

Foozrcool
12-10-2009, 12:07 PM
SWEET JESUS.....they are huge! What tip you got on them?

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh60/foozrcool/P1010556.jpg

I have custom oval tips as you can see.

380matey
12-10-2009, 12:35 PM
hey fooz have you got a pic of both from the rear?

chrisv
12-10-2009, 02:47 PM
hey fooz have you got a pic of both from the rear?

Yeah. I would like to see a long shot and one from underneath to take to my exhaust guy.
Did you do the cutout on the rear bar yourself? Looks good.

Foozrcool
12-10-2009, 03:36 PM
hey fooz have you got a pic of both from the rear?

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh60/foozrcool/P1010563.jpg


Yeah. I would like to see a long shot and one from underneath to take to my exhaust guy.
Did you do the cutout on the rear bar yourself? Looks good.

This is a shot of one of the rear mufflers, the cutout was organised when I bought the car by the dealer. It has had duals, lowered & wheels from new.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh60/foozrcool/P1010565.jpg

chrisv
12-10-2009, 03:50 PM
Awesome!!
Dammit...more on the plastic I guess
Cheeers

Grubco
12-10-2009, 05:45 PM
Grubco, I have some huge Supercats under the rear on both sides & fitted ok. The plastic guard for the fuel filler can be sliced a fair bit if needed although I didn't have to.

So 2 Supercat mufflers will fit on both sides without further cutting? What do they sound like? Louder, quieter? I wouldn't mind something a tiny bit louder, but not droney.

Foozrcool
12-10-2009, 06:35 PM
So 2 Supercat mufflers will fit on both sides without further cutting? What do they sound like? Louder, quieter? I wouldn't mind something a tiny bit louder, but not droney.

Yep fit no probs. Sounds nice & deep with a growl up in the revs. I also have a straight through resonator muffler & a hotdog in the main pipe.

Not sure what it would sound like compared to the Berklee but I don't have any drone. Since the mufflers have carboned up it has got a bit louder but nothing like it used to be with the other system I had.

Dave TJ
12-10-2009, 06:55 PM
I really like that subtle look of the dual outlets, nice and neat suits the 380 just right.

Cheers Dave

Foozrcool
13-10-2009, 12:23 PM
So 2 Supercat mufflers will fit on both sides without further cutting? What do they sound like? Louder, quieter? I wouldn't mind something a tiny bit louder, but not droney.

Just had another custom resonator installed behind the metalcat today & now there is no evidence of drone & I wouldn't say it was loud at all, just a nice deep rumble. For a large bore straight through exhaust it is unbelievably quiet.

chrisv
13-10-2009, 12:40 PM
Just had another custom resonator installed behind the metalcat today & now there is no evidence of drone & I wouldn't say it was loud at all, just a nice deep rumble. For a large bore straight through exhaust it is unbelievably quiet.

Since having my straight through fitted the only drone I tend to get is when it selects 5th (auto) at low speed and I just flick it into 4th with the tippy and away it goes.
I get no drone at all other than those particular revs and speed.

Foozrcool
13-10-2009, 01:45 PM
Since having my straight through fitted the only drone I tend to get is when it selects 5th (auto) at low speed and I just flick it into 4th with the tippy and away it goes.
I get no drone at all other than those particular revs and speed.

Yeah my last effort was good until the mufflers carboned up then it got a little louder with a touch of drone but it's all good now. :happy:

Grubco
13-10-2009, 03:12 PM
Yep fit no probs. Sounds nice & deep with a growl up in the revs. I also have a straight through resonator muffler & a hotdog in the main pipe.

Not sure what it would sound like compared to the Berklee but I don't have any drone. Since the mufflers have carboned up it has got a bit louder but nothing like it used to be with the other system I had.

Forgot to also add, I like your mufflers in the pic there. They're the Supercats? They're a good size, not too small, not too big. The blackened paint helps too. My Berklee is very large and is too stand-out under the car (looks like a keg under there!).

Foozrcool
13-10-2009, 03:39 PM
Forgot to also add, I like your mufflers in the pic there. They're the Supercats? They're a good size, not too small, not too big. The blackened paint helps too. My Berklee is very large and is too stand-out under the car (looks like a keg under there!).

Yep they are the Supercats.

If you installed this system on a 380 without extractors, it would almost sound stock with a slight note I'm thinking.

380matey
13-10-2009, 04:41 PM
Sweet looking set up Foozr. Must be pretty happy with it. Have you noticed any change to consumption at all or have you been too busy enjoying the sound of it lol

Blackstar
13-10-2009, 05:11 PM
Might get me a set of extractors next, but might keep it to a single output.

1-Is that a do-able config?

2-I presume it needs a high flo cat in the middle of the car cause the front cats come out?

3-Is the RPW the only one available?

4-what model of cat?


thanks in advance Fooz.

Foozrcool
13-10-2009, 05:17 PM
Sweet looking set up Foozr. Must be pretty happy with it. Have you noticed any change to consumption at all or have you been too busy enjoying the sound of it lol

Would that be the sound of the exhaust or the sound of the blower?? :P

Yes I have noticed a change to the consumption ..... it is a lot worse because I like the sound of the blower :facejump:


Might get me a set of extractors next, but might keep it to a single output.

1-Is that a do-able config?

2-I presume it needs a high flo cat in the middle of the car cause the front cats come out?

3-Is the RPW the only one available?

4-what model of cat?


thanks in advance Fooz.

1/ Yep single pipe is no probs as the extractors come down to a 2 1/2" collector. I'd continue that size straight through.

2/ Yep good idea, high flow metalcat. I originally ran mine with the bogus cat with no problems.

3/ Yep RPW is it as far as I know.

4/ I'm running a 3" metalcat but 2.5" should be fine. Not sure on brands, there are threads somehere discussing brands.

MCHenry
13-10-2009, 05:21 PM
Might get me a set of extractors next, but might keep it to a single output.

1-Is that a do-able config? My oath this is do-able

2-I presume it needs a high flo cat in the middle of the car cause the front cats come out? To keep the high flow from the extractors, then yes this would be recommended

3-Is the RPW the only one available? From what we know, yes RPW are the only ones that source the extractor set-up

4-what model of cat? There are a few companies that make a high flow metal cats

If you are going to keep the single outlet, then I would suggest to keep it 3" (keep the flow the same) all the way through and chuck in a resonator in the mix as well and a decent muffler.

Grubco
13-10-2009, 05:55 PM
Yep they are the Supercats.

If you installed this system on a 380 without extractors, it would almost sound stock with a slight note I'm thinking.

Oh, so they'd be quieter than the Berklee? Don't really want to go quieter, but I'll think about it.
Meanwhile here's a super-quick Paintshop mock-up of my 380 with twin Berklees. (See how big they are)
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh10/grubco/380LE_26b-twin.jpg

Foozrcool
13-10-2009, 06:08 PM
If you are going to keep the single outlet, then I would suggest to keep it 3" (keep the flow the same) all the way through and chuck in a resonator in the mix as well and a decent muffler.

The collector on the extractors is actually 2.5"

Foozrcool
13-10-2009, 06:10 PM
Oh, so they'd be quieter than the Berklee? Don't really want to go quieter, but I'll think about it.

No I meant my setup, I now have two resonators & a hotdog in the main pipe. The mufflers alone would probably be louder than your Berklee.

MCHenry
13-10-2009, 06:11 PM
The collector on the extractors is actually 2.5"

Hmmm....well that sux! Eventually when I get mine, I may modify it to 3", just finished tig welding at tafe.

TreeAdeyMan
13-10-2009, 06:20 PM
Oh, so they'd be quieter than the Berklee? Don't really want to go quieter, but I'll think about it.
Meanwhile here's a super-quick Paintshop mock-up of my 380 with twin Berklees. (See how big they are)
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh10/grubco/380LE_26b-twin.jpg

David,

Those tyres look awfully narrow and 'high profile' for 245/35 19s.

Have you got something else on now or is it just an illusion?

And yes, that is why the Berklee works so well to eliminate drone and still be a true straight through muffer - it's bloody huge! (but still not quite a big as a Lukey LR2779, which won't even fit on the driver's side coz it's way too long at 22")

Foozr,

Just out of interest, what was the cost of the twin Supercats?

I'm happy with my twin Crummydore SV6 mufflers, but one day I might want to go a little quieter.

And how did you manage to fit one under the passenger side - lots of cutting of the fuel pipe guard, or some other trick?

My exhaust guy reckoned there was no way he could fit an 18" long and reasonably wide/thick muffler under there, which is why I went for the 14" long SV6 mufflers.

KJ.

Grubco
13-10-2009, 06:27 PM
David,

Those tyres look awfully narrow and 'high profile' for 245/35 19s.

Have you got something else on now or is it just an illusion?

Foozr,

Just out of interest, what was the cost of the twin Supercats?

I'm happy with my twin Crummydore SV6 mufflers, but one day I might want to go a little quieter.

KJ.

Ha well spotted. No illusion, that's an old photo with the original 16 (215/60/16) rims. It was the only pic I could find with a good rear head-on shot of the muffler.

Blackstar
13-10-2009, 08:17 PM
Just two final question with the extractors and high flow cat setup.

I read somewhere that they move the oxygen sensors to the rear and you need O2 sensor extensions.

-Where do you get the extension leads from?
-Do we get a problem with CEL's after doing this mod?

Foozrcool
14-10-2009, 05:36 AM
I read somewhere that they move the oxygen sensors to the rear and you need O2 sensor extensions.

-Where do you get the extension leads from?
-Do we get a problem with CEL's after doing this mod?
I got the O2 extenders off ebay although you can make them yourself if you have the gear.

Re extending the wiring, any automotive wiring the appropriate size can be used to lengthen the cable although I think the RPW extractors now don't need lengthening but I can't confirm that. Doesn't sound right to me coz the rear ones have to move back behind the under car cat.

Yep NO CEL with this configuration.


Just out of interest, what was the cost of the twin Supercats?

I'm happy with my twin Crummydore SV6 mufflers, but one day I might want to go a little quieter.

And how did you manage to fit one under the passenger side - lots of cutting of the fuel pipe guard, or some other trick?

My exhaust guy reckoned there was no way he could fit an 18" long and reasonably wide/thick muffler under there, which is why I went for the 14" long SV6 mufflers.

KJ.

I paid $420 all up for the two supercats but that also included a front custom resonator & moving a hotdog. Yesterdays extra custom resonator cost $128 all up which involved moving the other resonator forward so the other would fit. From this it is reasonable to say the two Supercats would have been in the $200-300 bracket alone.

The 18" muffler fitted no problems without any cutting of guards etc. They thought they may have to dent the side of the muffler or the spare wheel well to fit but in the end they didn't ...... perfect fit.

Blackstar
14-10-2009, 11:44 AM
Thanks Foozrcool for the info.

caramelcomplex
14-10-2009, 11:57 AM
With the extractors from RPW they do actually come with O2 extenders. But the rear O2 sensors are actually located before the cat unlike how Foozrcool has his setup.

Blackstar
14-10-2009, 12:32 PM
With the extractors from RPW they do actually come with O2 extenders. But the rear O2 sensors are actually located before the cat unlike how Foozrcool has his setup.


there are 4 x O2 sensors.....two have to be after the cat...surely?


(first two are for fuel dynamic trim, second two are for checking catalyst efficiency)

Foozrcool
14-10-2009, 02:04 PM
there are 4 x O2 sensors.....two have to be after the cat...surely?


(first two are for fuel dynamic trim, second two are for checking catalyst efficiency)

Yep that's what I reckon, if they are in front of the cat it will be that much harder to stop the CEL coming up as the exhaust gas will be metered straight from the engine.

Blackstar
14-10-2009, 03:37 PM
I've ordered a couple of sets, one as a spare.

They don't clearly specify what's in the kit so have put in a conditional order...:)