hello all i own a 96 model te magna with a 3.0 sohc 24v v6 with the 5spd manual box
i took it out to eastern creek last night and got a 15.9
now the point of this thread is to see who goes out there for one and also little pointers to get better times wether its where the power bands are or what tyre pressures to use to tyres and modifications to be done at a budget
it is my daily and im on my Ps so nothing major to it apart from exhaust cat back and thats about it apart from mild work to the head because of it bending valves.. full specs can be found through my home page to a previous link in members rides
and also is this a decent time for my car or not much diff or worse from stock figures?

Wait till type40 comes on, he got a 15.01 (or something like that) in his TE 3L manual..

has he got a spec sheet/ thread somewhere on here?

;1145482']Wait till type40 comes on, he got a 15.01 (or something like that) in his TF 3L manual..

fixed :D

hello all i own a 96 model te magna with a 3.0 sohc 24v v6 with the 5spd manual box
i took it out to eastern creek last night and got a 15.9
now the point of this thread is to see who goes out there for one and also little pointers to get better times wether its where the power bands are or what tyre pressures to use to tyres and modifications to be done at a budget
it is my daily and im on my Ps so nothing major to it apart from exhaust cat back and thats about it apart from mild work to the head because of it bending valves.. full specs can be found through my home page to a previous link in members rides
and also is this a decent time for my car or not much diff or worse from stock figures?

thats a really bad time for a manual mate. Engines either not well. Or your not doing something rite. Rev it to 6500rpm and fast changes good launch and youll easily get low 15s

thats a really bad time for a manual mate. Engines either not well. Or your not doing something rite. Rev it to 6500rpm and fast changes good launch and youll easily get low 15s

It's a 3L not a 3.5L though.

It's a 3L not a 3.5L though.

Yeah theres 3.0l manuals doing high 14s. Theyll easily pull a low 15 pritty easily with no mods.

Heres some time slips for ya

http://www.geocities.com/commopunk/magnaregistry.html

Yeah theres 3.0l manuals doing high 14s. Theyll easily pull a low 15 pritty easily with no mods.

Yeah that's freaky, whenever I've raced a manual 3L they can't seem to catch up to me?

Yeah that's freaky, whenever I've raced a manual 3L they can't seem to catch up to me?

Dont know mate ive been down to my local 1/4 mile. And theres 3.0l manuals doing slowest 15.4 to 15 flat. 3.0l manuals should easily beat a 3.5l auto with the right driver.

Anyone know if theres a supercharged Magna on that registry ?
Seems kinda strange if not, seeing as theres so many rollin' now.


b well, D.

it was my first ever outing to a dragstrip lol and i only got three runs becuase i was late
taking tht into consideation i have practicly bold tyres on 18 inch rims and i had stereo system spare tyre 2 stands a hydrolic jack and tool kit lol
so yeah next time i go ill make sure i take this stuff otu and have fresh tyres lol

If you've got stock rims available try them as big wheels might add a lot of weight and slow the car down.

I had a set of upgraded 8mm Magnecor ignition leads cause my old Daihatsu to be 0.4 seconds slower at Eastern Creek - swapped the leads back and 20 minutes after a 17.0 the I rolled off something like a 16.57.

If I went to WSID, I'd be testing with & without the factory snorkel - I've got it removed currently as I like the sound better and didn't see a drop in fuel consumption. Might put it back on with summer heat coming though.

So my point is if you've got any mods that you can easily reverse in between runs, then use your next trip as an opportunity to performance test each one.

Oggy.

take the passenger headlight out and run some piping from the airbox to the gaping big hole :)

Good idea - every 3 degrees C cooler air going into the engine is supposed to add 1hp of power.

hmm sounds like a plan i will be back in another 6 weeks
and what tyres would you suggest for my front stockies? there the original alloy 15 inch rims

http://badgerphotography.com.au/2009/SM%20091021/pages/2110090923%20-%20WSID%20Street%20Meet%20-%20Race%20For%20Real.htm

Tyres - if traction is a problem, plus you are keen and can swap tyres at the track, see if you can get a pair of slicks! :)

Although launching with slicks can put more pressure on your driveline (gearbox, drive shafts, CVs, etc) so only do that if you're prepared to increase the risk of breaking something :)

I talked to a Turbo Ford TX5 driver at the strip once - he was stoked because he got his 1/4 time down from 14.5 to 13.5 just by using slicks.

Otherwise, if this pair of tyres will be exclusively for the track, then you could get different diameter (profile) tyres to alter the gearing and see if this can make the car any quicker.
and just get the widest possible to fit safely on the rim and clear the arches + suspension bits.

I talked to a Turbo Ford TX5 driver at the strip once - he was stoked because he got his 1/4 time down from 14.5 to 13.5 just by using slicks

Thats all well and good but unless you race on the tyres you drive on everyday then i call it cheating, just cause you pulled off a 13 on slicks doesn't make it a 13sec street car.

If you're using street tyres which it looks like you are, there isnt much of a need for a burnout, just spin the tyres up to get the water off them. Go and buy yourself a tyre presure gauge and drop your front presure down to around 15psi, i've gone as low as 12psi but i dont think it was a good idea. Pump your rear presure's up to around 40psi to reduce the **** squat when you launch. Run less than a quater tank of fuel and take everything you dont need in the car out, even empty the ash tray, centre console and take the carpet and wooden liner out of the boot to get the weight down (even go and take a dump pre race). Get to the track as early as you can, like 1st in the gate and get through the pits ASAP and line up with the bonnet open. The trick here is you give your car longer to cool down, plus you will have less time at idle in the que when your line is moving.
1st and 2nd gear's, rev the ring out of the car before the shift but dont push 3rd all the way to 6,500rpm as you'll just run out of power, so shift to 4th at around 5,800rpm.

I've got a pair of 16 inch Falken Azenis semi slick tyres on rims that you can buy off me, i can't use them as my front brakes only fit under 17's+. With these tyres you can drive on the street with them to the track and when you drop the presures, it makes a much bigger foot print than an 18 inch tyre with a similar low presure

Taking everything out of the car isn't really a true indication of how fast the car is tho is it? I mean, do you drive around everyday without floor mats or a back seat? Or without carpet or a spare tyre?

Taking everything out of the car isn't really a true indication of how fast the car is tho is it? I mean, do you drive around everyday without floor mats or a back seat? Or without carpet or a spare tyre?

You don't do this already? The real question is, why not?

I feel taking those Items out is all part of the Fun of drag racing, trying to do everything you can to get that .1sec faster. When your going for the fastest time you can get on a Slip for records purposes, your not going to worry about how fast your car is on the street, because you'll always have another variable slowing you down anyway.

Last time i seen TZABOYs car at a cruise it have nothing in it lol

Taking everything out of the car isn't really a true indication of how fast the car is tho is it? I mean, do you drive around everyday without floor mats or a back seat? Or without carpet or a spare tyre?

Exactly! I could strip my car down to a shell with no doors and an engine if I wanted to go that far and Id probly run a 13 but it's not reality is it. Be a real man and race your car in full street trim.

Bragging about a time slip that required slicks and a heap of weight reduction is fail.

Remember weight reduction isn't a substitute for horsepower....write that down

Exactly! I could strip my car down to a shell with no doors and an engine if I wanted to go that far and Id probly run a 13 but it's not reality is it. Be a real man and race your car in full street trim.

Bragging about a time slip that required slicks and a heap of weight reduction is fail.

Remember weight reduction isn't a substitute for horsepower....write that down

no, its better cause its free!:hmm:

Exactly! I could strip my car down to a shell with no doors and an engine if I wanted to go that far and Id probly run a 13 but it's not reality is it. Be a real man and race your car in full street trim.

Bragging about a time slip that required slicks and a heap of weight reduction is fail.

Remember weight reduction isn't a substitute for horsepower....write that down


I never heard such a load of bull in all my life where do guys come up with this crap.Its not about horsepower its about power to weight.The only thing thats fail is saying i could take my doors off etc etc and run a 13 sec pass.If the car runs 13 sec with slicks its a 13 sec car ,the tyres don't contribute to the power the only put it to the ground.

Taking everything out of the car isn't really a true indication of how fast the car is tho is it? I mean, do you drive around everyday without floor mats or a back seat? Or without carpet or a spare tyre?

yep, been driving the car around with nothing in it all week. I usually don't have carpet or spare or rear seat in the car.

I figure if I'm adding 20-40kg of body weight over the average guy (60kg heavier than Cummins! lol) I can take about that weight out of the car and it's still a fair run.

I should get down the 1/4 mile one day. WSID isn't that far away.

cheers,
.wook

Taking everything out of the car isn't really a true indication of how fast the car is tho is it? I mean, do you drive around everyday without floor mats or a back seat? Or without carpet or a spare tyre?
but then there will always be an excuse. "oh, if i was smart and didnt throw 60 litres in the tank before the drag race i would have run 'X' faster". I see nothing wrong with doing everything you can to make your car as fast as possible down the quater mile.
With your reasoning i guess my car isn't a 12 second car as i was low on fuel and on circuit slicks.

It's not totally bad time, considering how damn hot it was last Wed, 30+ deg. That tends to slow these thing a bit.
Dunno if it's feasible to compare one car to another due to many variables - engine wear and quality, weather on the day etc.
Being a small dude helps reducing the (car) weight lol

If you're using street tyres which it looks like you are, there isnt much of a need for a burnout, just spin the tyres up to get the water off them. Go and buy yourself a tyre presure gauge and drop your front presure down to around 15psi, i've gone as low as 12psi but i dont think it was a good idea. Pump your rear presure's up to around 40psi to reduce the **** squat when you launch. Run less than a quater tank of fuel and take everything you dont need in the car out, even empty the ash tray, centre console and take the carpet and wooden liner out of the boot to get the weight down (even go and take a dump pre race). Get to the track as early as you can, like 1st in the gate and get through the pits ASAP and line up with the bonnet open. The trick here is you give your car longer to cool down, plus you will have less time at idle in the que when your line is moving.
1st and 2nd gear's, rev the ring out of the car before the shift but dont push 3rd all the way to 6,500rpm as you'll just run out of power, so shift to 4th at around 5,800rpm.

I've got a pair of 16 inch Falken Azenis semi slick tyres on rims that you can buy off me, i can't use them as my front brakes only fit under 17's+. With these tyres you can drive on the street with them to the track and when you drop the presures, it makes a much bigger foot print than an 18 inch tyre with a similar low presure

Ill try the 5800rpm trick does it work

Ill try the 5800rpm trick does it work
Well that trick seemed to work for me when the car was N/A and boosted, it just runs a bit out of puff when in a taller gear

All in all its whos fastest on the day.... with alot of variables, like track temp, ambient air temp....

i dont care what you do to your car to get the times. semi slicks are legal on the road so, play ball.

no1 im their right mind is goin to load an extra 100kg into the car if they want good realistic times. so you cut the fat. simple!

I just asked the question. :) Everyone has their own opinion on the matter.

Next time I'm at the strip I might take everything out of my car. Buggered if I get a flat tho as I'm about 2 hour drive from home at the strip.

leave the essentials in the car for your trip to and from the strip just incase (eg. Spare wheel, jack, wheel brace) and take them out when you are in the pits. I'm sure most would have gone in a group so you would have mates that would mind your stuff.

leave the essentials in the car for your trip to and from the strip just incase (eg. Spare wheel, jack, wheel brace) and take them out when you are in the pits. I'm sure most would have gone in a group so you would have mates that would mind your stuff.
Thats exactly what i've done almost every time ive gone to the runs. You go in a big group so its a social night and use someones car who is not racing as the junk car for all your spare parts.

im going back early december wookie so if it is ill give everyone a weeks heads up before i head out and maybe we could book a lane for amc? becuase last week some mates from a honda club got thier own lane ( i just said i was apart of it lol and was the only magna amoungst hondas)
lol
whats everyone reckon?

December sounds good except for the heat. I do plan on going at some stage, so will keep an eye/ear out :)

I can't believe the debate over stripping your car down :) And the funny thing is, I was going to add a note on my post saying "if your goal is to experience the sport of drag racing, do all of that stuff and more, but if it's just to see how fast your road car is, then it would seem a bit irrelevant." I wonder if that would have lessened the debate? :)

Besides, regardless of how fast your car is in "race" trim, it's irrelevant to the street because no-one races on the street. Duh!

So if anyone makes any claims to 1/4 mile or lap times, just make sure you mention "in race trim" or "street trim" in the same sentence as appropriate.
I think being precise actually lends credibility to any claim.

Otherwise, it's all good fun and the faster you go (on the track) the better!
Cheers, Oggy.

p.s. a friend of mine had a Charade that did 15.01 , so we removed his tool kit and the spare and I wanted to remove the back seat but he wouldn't let me.
His next run was 14.90, and at the time that was quicker than any HSV off the showroom floor except a GTS which was 14.7, so he got the plates "HSV 18U" and could claim that his car is a 14 second car.
Not bad with a 1L 3 cylinder engine ! :)

on weight reduction. I read ages ago about a few americans that wanted to make some 4cycl Saturn go faster down a drag without spending money. So basically it was a practice in cutting and pulling every conceivable thing off the car from doors, fenders, bonnet, interior, headlights, spare and anything not necessary of the car to drive down a strip (A/C went, anything comfort wise etc) then when they still didn't reach their goal time they cut the roof off and windscreens. Eventually when the car was basically a floor with wheels and an engine they got their goal time.