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24v3.0
04-11-2009, 09:29 PM
hey all im not sure if theres a thread with this info i tried searching with minimal success
ive been reading alot about steve knight in these forums and was wondering if there was a way to buy a flashed ecu or anything that i could plug into my 3.0 te magna?
any help?
there are 2 methods. One is to buy an ecu from the wreckers and post it to him. He will tune it on the bench or load a pre built tune i'm not sure on costs. Other is to in to him in sa and get him to dyno tune it. This is the best method as every car is different and it will ensure an optimal tune.
24v3.0
04-11-2009, 09:37 PM
i i was to send one down to him
then when i get it back take it to sum1 up in syd to do the dyno tuning
would tht work?
nope steve is the only one in aus whe can tune the stock ecu.
MattyB
04-11-2009, 09:50 PM
It's recommended you do the drive down to S.A. if you're keen on doing the reflash mate. Well worth the time and money in regards to performance increase. Sending one down will help also but as Life said every car is different, dyno tune is the best option.
SupremeMoFo
04-11-2009, 09:58 PM
How much would you typically pay?
T_double_U
04-11-2009, 10:01 PM
For a mail order tune i paid $350.
24v3.0
04-11-2009, 10:18 PM
did ne testing on the 1/4?
I'm definitely interested in driving down there for a dyno tune. Anyone know how much that is and how long it takes?
Red Valdez
04-11-2009, 11:06 PM
did ne testing on the 1/4?
I don't think anyone's done before and after testing down the quarter, but most people have reported gains of between 7 and 15kw at the wheels.
MattyB
05-11-2009, 01:09 AM
I'm definitely interested in driving down there for a dyno tune. Anyone know how much that is and how long it takes?
Best way to find out is ask him mate. I've been told about 4 hours and $500
FamilyWagon
05-11-2009, 03:56 AM
Yeah thats approx right matty B.
Best to get to him if you can. I know its a long haul for some but well worth it. You would never be happy knowing your tune could be slighlt better if it was dyno'd.
Just make it a holiday/road trip.
Boozer
05-11-2009, 04:45 AM
Yeah thats approx right matty B.
Best to get to him if you can. I know its a long haul for some but well worth it. You would never be happy knowing your tune could be slighlt better if it was dyno'd.
Just make it a holiday/road trip.
it was definately a long haul for ya, thats for sure! *poor bugger*
The "reflash" stage only takes a couple of mins if any. When i had mine done, i use Type40's tune as we had similar mods all he had to do was hook his equipment up to the car and load it from his laptop. I didn't bother too much about before and after dyno comparisons. So it was flash and off i went for a drive to tell him what i thought, it was only after the drive that i had the car on the dyno to check things over. Eg. No pinging, a/f ratio, and whilst there it spat out a power reading :)
Blazin'
05-11-2009, 05:09 AM
Yep, mate it is definately recommended that you get this done if you are looking to increase performance. It's by far the best gain per $ mod out there (Except for 380 washer nozzles lol...)! As soon as I get my new car, I will be getting it done myself :)
Madmagna
05-11-2009, 05:09 AM
Guys, your best bet is to call Steve, if you need to I can get you in contact with Steve.
I have also had my car done and the result was awsome. What Steve does not know about a Magna is simply not worth knowing.
One thing though, you may have issues with the 3.0 ECU as some of the older ones programme differently and I do not think Steve can do them. You can do however what I did and get an ECU and engine harness from a TJ from wreckers or I may also be able to provide one, once you have this it is an easy swap. The only reason you need the harness is for the bara sensor as your check engine light will remain on if you use the new ECU with the older harness but the car will still run fine
wendnarb
05-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Their is also a guy in Sydney who can do it alhough he does it on a live dyno which apprently is better although costs more. From what I heard it's $850 talk to gremlin if you want more details!
Jasons VRX
05-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Their is also a guy in Sydney who can do it alhough he does it on a live dyno which apprently is better although costs more. From what I heard it's $850 talk to gremlin if you want more details!
Steve (SKR) does it on a "live" dyno as well (for a awesome price), IF you get your car over to adelaide or you can arrange a dyno for him to use and fly him to the area nearest you.
His base/mail out tunes are good and still conservative enough to be safe BUT a clean up on a dyno is always the best way if you are after every last killowatt.
gremlin
05-11-2009, 07:20 PM
yeh can have it done in penrith.. guy there has definitions for heaps of magnas and has a dyno...
doubt its as much as $850 anymore... i can pass more detail on to any interested party..
HOOKUPOZ
05-11-2009, 07:39 PM
yeh can have it done in penrith.. i can pass more detail on to any interested party..
Could we get a name or phone number or something of this guy? As good as Steve is (and i have had many conversations with him regarding a mail tune) it would be so much better if we could get a tune done closer to home.
Gremlin has this guy doone a magna tune for you? Or has anyone else had one done that could comment on his work?
cheers luke
interested in the guy in Penrith too !!
Their is also a guy in Sydney who can do it alhough he does it on a live dyno which apprently is better although costs more. From what I heard it's $850 talk to gremlin if you want more details!
I realize you're trying to help but so far this rumour is at least partially wrong.
yeh can have it done in penrith.. guy there has definitions for heaps of magnas and has a dyno...
doubt its as much as $850 anymore... i can pass more detail on to any interested party..
You've mentioned this before, but i find it very hard to believe that anyone could come close to manipulating factory ECU's to the extent that SKR can.
I'm sure we'd all enjoy some hard proof with known cars so we could make some comparisons between SKR and this mystery tuner.
Mohit
06-11-2009, 04:54 AM
A good tuner can tune any car. The tuning principles are the same. It comes down to whether the tuner knows how to use the software and parameters to tune an ECU.
BJ31OS
06-11-2009, 05:02 AM
I realize you're trying to help but so far this rumour is at least partially wrong.
You've mentioned this before, but i find it very hard to believe that anyone could come close to manipulating factory ECU's to the extent that SKR can.
I'm sure we'd all enjoy some hard proof with known cars so we could make some comparisons between SKR and this mystery tuner.
I know a few people now that can tune the factory magna ECU a few in sydeny and one in Newcastle.
FamilyWagon
06-11-2009, 05:07 AM
Steve knight is the only one in Aust that can tune the factory ECU's.
These other people you are talking about must add an aftermarket managment system or chip.
Mohit, yes others can tune cars but none of these other guys has the experience that Steve does.
He was involve in the origional software for these engines and he was also involved in the endurance testing at Mitsubishi when the 3rd gens were designed. He knows exactly what these engines are capable of at what point.
Others may tune them but dont know what may result down the track or to what effect their tune is having on the engine where as Steve knows exactly the limits of them and tunes accordingly.
Wouldn't even consider anyone else otherhan Steve for this sort of job.
Also, Steve does a dyno tune at a much more reasonable price than these others you are mentioning.
BJ31OS
06-11-2009, 05:08 AM
Steve knight is the only one in Aust that can tune the factory ECU's.
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Nope the guy in Newcastle can defiantly tune the factory ECU i have seen the software with my own eyes.
FamilyWagon
06-11-2009, 05:11 AM
Thats funny BJ because there are only 2 hardware unts in Australia that can tune the factory ecu's.
One Steve Knight has and the other Mitsubishi Australia stll has so i find it hard to believe tha this guy can do the factory ECU.
ALso, no dis-respect to this guy but i can guarantee that he doesn't have anywhere near the knowledge/experience that Steve does.
Madmagna
06-11-2009, 05:13 AM
So if these mystery people are out there, why does no one bother to name them then
BJ31OS
06-11-2009, 05:16 AM
You can buy the cables to do it just like gremlin did if you dont want to believe me dont i couldn't give a shit but it can be done. i have said i have seen it with my own eyes.
as for experience well the work shop he works at have a very very good tuner who knows his stuff.
Now i think this is good for magna owners that they now dont have to travel so far to get tunes done it can only mean good things for the magna community.
P.S they will be letting people know soon they just want to do more testing first (as any good tuner should do with new software)
Madmagna
06-11-2009, 05:22 AM
You can buy the cables to do it just like gremlin did if you dont want to believe me dont i couldn't give a shit but it can be done. i have said i have seen it with my own eyes.
as for experience well the work shop he works at have a very very good tuner who knows his stuff.
Now i think this is good for magna owners that they now dont have to travel so far to get tunes done it can only mean good things for the magna community.
P.S they will be letting people know soon they just want to do more testing first (as any good tuner should do with new software)
No need to be so precious bud.
Am just over all these people stating that they can get this or that but refuse to tell people where and how. This is turning into a secret squirrel club
If this ghost can tune, well and good, let people who know about these cars like me speak to this person and sus them out a bit if for anything for the good of the members.
As for the cables, where are these available?
BJ31OS
06-11-2009, 05:28 AM
No need to be so precious bud.
Am just over all these people stating that they can get this or that but refuse to tell people where and how. This is turning into a secret squirrel club
If this ghost can tune, well and good, let people who know about these cars like me speak to this person and sus them out a bit if for anything for the good of the members.
As for the cables, where are these available?
I dont know where the cables are from but i do know of 2 members now that have bought them and have had success.
and im not being precious mate just sick of people that think they know everything and cant handle it when they are wrong.
BJ31OS
06-11-2009, 05:30 AM
If people want to do a search Gremlin had a thread stating what he had.
Potentfoz
06-11-2009, 05:42 AM
The ECU lock is only software based, like anything really it can be cracked (as SKR and others have done) the Evo ECU's were the same, provided there is enough interest anything is possible.
rodpolky
06-11-2009, 06:01 AM
Can anyone PM me Steve's details as I would like to take my car to him for a tune
FamilyWagon
06-11-2009, 06:05 AM
As Mal said, this person needs to be verified by someone who knows like Mal himslef before we go recommending him to people on here.
Also, the fact that 'P.S they will be letting people know soon they just want to do more testing first (as any good tuner should do with new software)' is a little bit of a worry.
So its new software or he is new to Magna's?
Once again, i would find it very hard indeed to believe this guy knows anywhere near what Steve would know in relation to the Magna motor/software.
Steve has seen what can happen with badly implemented software as it was his job to try and break/kill these motors through in house testing at mitsubishi when he was there.
That was his job, to get the best combination of power/enduro/power out of these motors.
BJ31OS
06-11-2009, 06:53 AM
no not new just new to the magna software he knows magnas in general very well.
Its not up to me to mention who the person is if he wants to be known then its up to him to say.
86_Elite
06-11-2009, 07:31 AM
Is it that hard that we can't live with more than one magna specific tuner? I personally pick who I use to work on my car by word of mouth. I've seen too many flashy workshops that can do everything you want (supposedly). Can we all just take a deep breath, group hug, its 1st thing in the morning obviously we are all a little cranky on a friday.
Not that I am a mod, but can we get back on topic, because, I am also interested in getting a SKR and I would like to hear from members who have had it done and wether its worth it or not. So far, im convinced.
Lucifer
06-11-2009, 07:40 AM
Is it that hard that we can't live with more than one magna specific tuner? I personally pick who I use to work on my car by word of mouth. I've seen too many flashy workshops that can do everything you want (supposedly). Can we all just take a deep breath, group hug, its 1st thing in the morning obviously we are all a little cranky on a friday.
Not that I am a mod, but can we get back on topic, because, I am also interested in getting a SKR and I would like to hear from members who have had it done and wether its worth it or not. So far, im convinced.
I think that the skepticism here comes from that we don't know who this/these tuner(s) is/are, and we don't even know if they are worth their salt. Plenty of people say they can tune a car, but can they do it well? Like you, I would always choose my tuner by word of mouth, in fact, locally there is only one person I would deal with.
I'm interested to see whether this mystery tuner can match or surpass SKR in the performance and reliability side of their tune, and be competitively priced at the same time like SKR are.
Phonic
06-11-2009, 08:33 AM
How about we just wait and see what they can do when they are ready? Personally I think competition is a good thing for us, the consumer!
Mohit
06-11-2009, 08:33 AM
I've had 3 shops work on the tunes on my Verada when it had the Sprintex. If i had a 3rd Gen again i would only go back to 2 of those shops for tunes. The one I wouldn’t go back to is the Sprintex authorized workshop who put a crap tune on the car.
What I’m getting at is any good tuner will be able to tune an engine if he knows what he is doing. I’m sure Steve Knight is an excellent tuner when it comes to 3rd Gen engines and probably any other engine as he knows what he’s doing.
I was speaking to the tuner that last worked on my Rada the other day and he said he would be able to tune a Magna ECU as long as he has a list of the definitions/parameters. He does flash tuning of Evos all the time and he said the concept is similar. If anyone wants more info speak to Ray of ART Tuning.
Steevo
06-11-2009, 08:37 AM
As Mal said, this person needs to be verified by someone who knows like Mal himslef before we go recommending him to people on here.
Also, the fact that 'P.S they will be letting people know soon they just want to do more testing first (as any good tuner should do with new software)' is a little bit of a worry.
So its new software or he is new to Magna's?
Once again, i would find it very hard indeed to believe this guy knows anywhere near what Steve would know in relation to the Magna motor/software.
Steve has seen what can happen with badly implemented software as it was his job to try and break/kill these motors through in house testing at mitsubishi when he was there.
That was his job, to get the best combination of power/enduro/power out of these motors.
While Steve from SKR tuned my car and did a ripper job IMO,at the time,Mal wouldnt have known him either i gather,it was Zero that put me onto him,and only very few people knew what he could do,if we never give him a chance,we would have all missed out!,simply cos he wasnt recommended by mods/people in the know?,while i tend to agree about mobs being "verified",word of mouth from end users is good enough for me in most cases,and for mine,a good tuner should be able to tune ANYTHING if he has a dyno and can fiddle the mixtures and spark etc,you know the basics
But yes,steve has the inside knowledge and benefit of knowing factory tunes and motor tolerences etc for the Magna`s,which is very good news for us boys indeed,but could be learnt given enough practice like anyhting,but for now,he is the king whtout a doubt
i just hope steve knight keeps on doing what he is doing as i really want a tune next year
Jasons VRX
06-11-2009, 10:08 AM
While Steve from SKR tuned my car and did a ripper job IMO,at the time,Mal wouldnt have known him either i gather,it was Zero that put me onto him,and only very few people knew what he could do,if we never give him a chance,we would have all missed out!,simply cos he wasnt recommended by mods/people in the know?,while i tend to agree about mobs being "verified",word of mouth from end users is good enough for me in most cases,and for mine,a good tuner should be able to tune ANYTHING if he has a dyno and can fiddle the mixtures and spark etc,you know the basics
But yes,steve has the inside knowledge and benefit of knowing factory tunes and motor tolerences etc for the Magna`s,which is very good news for us boys indeed,but could be learnt given enough practice like anyhting,but for now,he is the king whtout a doubt
The reason steve wasnt spoken about by me alot earlier was for the fact that he still worked for MMAL and his job wouldve been on the "line" so to speak if people outside of us select few knew about it.
Now that MMAL has folded and he is out on his own with his own business AND has bought the genuine MMAL "flash box and software" as well as all the different factory tunes (plus some custom tunes) we can know talk about him and what he can do.
He comes highly recommended by me and the magna racecar boys, hell hes even been fitting powerup kits and doing tunes for TMR on the EVOX, hence why there is always a large number of victorian plated evo's at his workshop.
Best of all is hes a very approachable guy who wont bullshit ya around and just take ya money!
gremlin
06-11-2009, 10:13 AM
lol what a funny thread.. so many "experts" telling us what can and cant be done.
the magna ecu's are basically the same hardware (ecu) as the evo's of the same year.. same processor..... there is no issue reading and writing to the magna ecu's, exactly as you do with an evo.. i have personally done this..
ALL that is missing is the definitions that define where everything is on the ecu... (fuel, timing, immob., speed cut, rev limiter etc etc etc)... new stuff is being found/defind for evo's every month e.g. launch control, map swapping, no lift to shift and tonnes more.. search for tephra mods on any evo forum for more info.. tehpra is a freak at reverse engineering these ecu's .. if we had enough ppl interested in flashing magna ecu's would could pay him to do as many models and he can and we'd have some crazy features unlocked on our ecu's.. i have no doubts the factory ecu could run ANY magna on here including forced induction cars
...so the problem is not many ppl are interested in investigating the magna rom's to "find" stuff.. therefore even though i can read and write to the ecu, i havent got the memory location on the ecu for fuel, timing etc which i need in order to modify them.. ive had a go at reverse engineering magna ecu but my limited knowledge of hex and my very limited time allowance has held me back...
ALTHOUGH some ppl in oz have reverse engineered some magna ecu roms.
but the few ppl who have keep the definitions to themselves cause of the time theyve spent creating them and they known they're rare so they want to make money out of them (which is fair enough).. everyone is playing with evo ecu's and therefore definitions for almost every evo rom out their is available online...
every model/series has a different rom.. auto and manual in the same model/series has a different rom... therefore just because one person has defind mem locations for, say, TH manual 3.5L.. it does not mean they can edit a TJ Sports. theyd have to sit down a go through the TJ sports rom aswell and reverse engineer that...
anyway, for those in sydney who want their magna live flash tuned on a dyno by a pro:
if he hasn't reveresed engineered the rom for your exact model magna already, he will do it.. he'll ask you to come past and he'll pull the rom off your car.. then he'll reverse engineer it (locate the required areas of the ecu that he will need to edit to tune the car.. fuel and timing of course).... then you go back, chuck your car on the dyno and he'll tune it..
HITMAN INJECTION TUNING
http://www.hitman.hm/
7 Coombes Drive
Penrith
NSW 2750
Ask for Matt... tell him gremlin from evom recommended him (he may or may not remember me)...
I just talked with Matt from Hitman Injection Tuning. Sounds like a good guy, was willing to have a good chat about what he can do with the things. Here is some info:
$650-ish for a reflash IF he has already investigated the ROMS for that particular model
A fair bit of work on top of that if the ROM has to be pulled off the ECU and investigated so could be a few hunderd dollars more.
If auto, can fiddle around with the transmission part of the ECU but more complex.
Has done a dozen or so magnas already such as Ralliart models, and an Evo X as well (which MIGHT uses the same ECU type as the Mitsubishi 380)
So I might create a new thread on this to help out some NSW people who can't travel to SA for various reasons. I will be definately interested in this dude once I have manual conversion complete next year.
Edit: Considering I have just had a lengthy chat with Matt, its probably best not to bombard the fella with calls from other Magna members right now lol
Levinitup
06-11-2009, 11:30 AM
Nice work Gremlin. And thanks very much for sharing your info! Unlike some people on here.........
Lucifer
06-11-2009, 11:37 AM
Yes, thanks Gremlin, good to see some useful input from someone in this thread at least :)
TimmyC
06-11-2009, 11:47 AM
Glad to see some more info coming out. Personally the only person i will ever let tune my car would be Steve Knight. The QLD boys are trying to fly him up there to tune a bunch of cars, and even with the costs of flights etc its still cheaper than this other tuner. Not a hard choice in my opinion.
Glad to see some more info coming out. Personally the only person i will ever let tune my car would be Steve Knight. The QLD boys are trying to fly him up there to tune a bunch of cars, and even with the costs of flights etc its still cheaper than this other tuner. Not a hard choice in my opinion.
Look, Steve Knight has a good rep here and has done a lot of good for our relatively small tuning community. Lets give this guy in Penrith a chance first, from my conversations with him over the phone he sounded like a good guy and was interested in helping. A lot of places I talk to are just downright rude so it is a good start in my opinion.
Lets stay open minded until we have looked into this further. How about we discuss this in the new thread I created...?
TimmyC
06-11-2009, 11:56 AM
Look, Steve Knight has a good rep here and has done a lot of good for our relatively small tuning community. Lets give this guy in Penrith a chance first, from my conversations with him over the phone he sounded like a good guy and was interested in helping. A lot of places I talk to are just downright rude so it is a good start in my opinion.
Lets stay open minded until we have looked into this further. How about we discuss this in the new thread I created...?
Im not trying to take anything off this new fella dont get me wrong, i think its great to see people willing to help magna owners out. All i was trying to get across is people have the choice to bring Steve to them to do a tune as well. Would love to know some info about these dozen magnas he has tuned though. Am very surprised that none of them have come out about him before :confused:
. Am very surprised that none of them have come out about him before :confused:
I too am wondering this. Perhaps Gremlin has info...?
Potentfoz
06-11-2009, 12:31 PM
I too am wondering this. Perhaps Gremlin has info...?
Probably didnt want people hassling him constantly about tunes etc, or that they were too busy and was asked to keep it on the down low.
Could be numerous explanations.
86_Elite
06-11-2009, 12:42 PM
*waits*
Madmagna
06-11-2009, 01:00 PM
Guys,
Just want to make one thing clear
At the moment Steve Knight is the one and only AMC person we recommend for tuning.
I am more than happy for others to come on board HOWEVER before AMC will think of allowing others to be recommended on the forums I will first need to talk to them to get a run down of their experience with Magna's, what they offer, what sort of guarentee they offer etc etc
I am not trying to be hard assed here, I am just wanting to do my best to protect the members out there and do not want to get more like 6Sik come on here claiming to be demi god tuners just because they have managed to pull one tune off a customers car and reverse engineer it.
I know well what Steve's background is, what his knowledge is like, the equipment and tunes he has and believe me, it will take a pretty special tuner to even come close to Steve's knowledge
This having been said, it will be good to have a second person on the east coast provided they have the interest (not just financial), the ability and the equipment to do this properly.
If anyone knows this person who is doing these, please feel free to hook me up with him (I will keep contact details confidential for now of course) so I can chat to them, figure out how they can help members etc etc
Cheers
Mohit
06-11-2009, 01:33 PM
Guys,
Just want to make one thing clear
At the moment Steve Knight is the one and only AMC person we recommend for tuning.
I am more than happy for others to come on board HOWEVER before AMC will think of allowing others to be recommended on the forums I will first need to talk to them to get a run down of their experience with Magna's, what they offer, what sort of guarentee they offer etc etc
I am not trying to be hard assed here, I am just wanting to do my best to protect the members out there and do not want to get more like 6Sik come on here claiming to be demi god tuners just because they have managed to pull one tune off a customers car and reverse engineer it.
I know well what Steve's background is, what his knowledge is like, the equipment and tunes he has and believe me, it will take a pretty special tuner to even come close to Steve's knowledge
This having been said, it will be good to have a second person on the east coast provided they have the interest (not just financial), the ability and the equipment to do this properly.
If anyone knows this person who is doing these, please feel free to hook me up with him (I will keep contact details confidential for now of course) so I can chat to them, figure out how they can help members etc etc
Cheers
Does that mean before any future recommendations are made about companies that could benefit people, we have to get auth from the admin team before this is done? Since this tuner is not a sponsor i don't think this should be the case.
Lucifer
06-11-2009, 01:45 PM
Does that mean before any future recommendations are made about companies that could benefit people, we have to get auth from the admin team before this is done? Since this tuner is not a sponsor i don't think this should be the case.
It's really to protect the interests of the club's members, there's nothing stopping a member going out and getting a tune by some other bloke, but AMC won't endorse it or recommend it. In case you haven't realised, we've had a lot of bullshit products recommended to us lately and my guess is the AAT are sick of cleaning up the mess, which is fair enough.
Steevo
06-11-2009, 01:46 PM
Does that mean before any future recommendations are made about companies that could benefit people, we have to get auth from the admin team before this is done? Since this tuner is not a sponsor i don't think this should be the case.
You would bloody well hope not,freedom of speech is a great thing!,i would like to think its for sponsers only etc that would need approval or before AMC admin will sing their praises/recommend them,the general forum public can recommend anything to anyone on here,but doesnt mean you have to use them etc,well thats my take,im sure clarification will follow
Luci,How can the forum stop someone from recommending someone/something on here though?,it just cant be done,they can say its shit,but thats were the line is drawn
Lucifer
06-11-2009, 02:01 PM
You would bloody well hope not,freedom of speech is a great thing!,i would like to think its for sponsers only etc that would need approval or before AMC admin will sing their praises/recommend them,the general forum public can recommend anything to anyone on here,but doesnt mean you have to use them etc,well thats my take,im sure clarification will follow
Luci,How can the forum stop someone from recommending someone/something on here though?,it just cant be done,they can say its shit,but thats were the line is drawn
When I read Mal's post I didn't read it in the light that we weren't allowed to recommend something without permission, I interpreted it as AMC as a whole, in particular the governing body, will not recommend anything/everything willy-nilly. Like you said we'll wait for some clarification from Mal himself.
Type40
06-11-2009, 02:05 PM
Luci,How can the forum stop someone from recommending someone/something on here though?,it just cant be done,they can say its shit,but thats were the line is drawn
You cant. And im all for people recommending places that they have had good service and received a quality product. But, if anyone is ever after a tune i will only recommend Steve as he has created great results with my car. Im 100% satisfied with his work!
Steevo
06-11-2009, 02:10 PM
You cant. And im all for people recommending places that they have had good service and received a quality product. But, if anyone is ever after a tune i will only recommend Steve as he has created great results with my car. Im 100% satisfied with his work!
me too fella,I am really pleased with my results aswell and will always sing SKR`s praises, (btw, didnt you get my tune IIRC?),just wanted to sort the wheat from the chaff in regards to what and what cannot be said/done etc
Type40
06-11-2009, 02:13 PM
me too fella,I am really pleased with my results aswell and will always sing SKR`s praises, (btw, didnt you get my tune IIRC?),just wanted to sort the wheat from the chaff in regards to what and what cannot be said/done etc
I have a feeling i got a modified version of Jasons tune (one of his many tunes)... But im not completely sure about that to be honest. All i know is that it produces the goods. lol
Articuno
06-11-2009, 02:26 PM
As the others have said, Steve Knight is a champ, and can get sensational results for the $$$ investment.
Just dont ask him to change your cams over... haha
Highly Recommended A+++
rodpolky
06-11-2009, 02:56 PM
So can anyone PM me Steve's number??
Type40
06-11-2009, 02:59 PM
So can anyone PM me Steve's number??
Done!
".LIAM."
06-11-2009, 03:07 PM
would steve be able to tune a 2nd gen ECU??
if possible could someone also PM me his number
Thanks.
86_Elite
06-11-2009, 03:28 PM
No Liam but if you speak to Lathiat, he is developing the ECU software to tweak a 2nd gen ecu, only 2.6 for the moment but will later in time adapt this for the 3.0 V6, just a few more parameters in the v6 and he is learning each day
VR-S3X
06-11-2009, 04:59 PM
interested in the guy in Penrith too !! +1
spud100
06-11-2009, 06:31 PM
All very well.
SKR has a proven track record with demonstrated before and after dyno charts.
Put up or shut up time guys.
All very well talking about someone else who is calimed to be able to tune the OEM ECU.
Prove it!
If anyone else can actually tune the OEM ECU then show the results, both before and after with basic spec info.
However watch out, these charts are not necessarily comparable with anothers tuners results.
The key will be the percentage difference from before and after.
Gerry
BJ31OS
06-11-2009, 06:45 PM
All very well.
SKR has a proven track record with demonstrated before and after dyno charts.
Put up or shut up time guys.
All very well talking about someone else who is calimed to be able to tune the OEM ECU.
Prove it!
If anyone else can actually tune the OEM ECU then show the results, both before and after with basic spec info.
However watch out, these charts are not necessarily comparable with anothers tuners results.
The key will be the percentage difference from before and after.
Gerry
This is not aimed at a specific member but everyone in general
If your that desperate for answers ring the *********** guy Cybermonkey did
Here are his numbers again.:
HITMAN INJECTION TUNING
http://www.hitman.hm/
7 Coombes Drive
Penrith
NSW 2750
Ask for Matt... tell him gremlin from evom recommended him (he may or may not remember me)...
I'm sure hes not going to waste his time by joining up to a forum of whingers just to give a couple of people answers especially when people are basically saying he cant.
Sorry to be blunt but seems there are a few VIC members who cant except that some other people can tune magnas and not just there Steve Knight, im sure Steve does a good job but FFS there are plenty of just as good or better tuners in the country maybe they dont know the software like he does but im sure they know other software better than him, and given time im sure they would also be just as good with the software.
People whinge about the prices of magna stuff as there are only a select few who make it or willing to tune it or even work on them, People cant you see that this is a good thing for the magna community.
I now understand why JasonsVRX doesnt post up information as its pointless people just whinge and complain about everything.
Madmagna
06-11-2009, 07:42 PM
So BJ, who exactly is winging
People are saying that they like Steve as he is friendly, tested these cars before they even hit the road and knows the tune and engines in these cars better than anyone else
That does not mean that another party starting to do these is a no go. It simply means that people will be cautious about a newbie to the Magna ECU flashing scene
I for one will be calling this person myself next week to both sus him out and also general chat about what he does.
BJ31OS
06-11-2009, 07:51 PM
I for one will be calling this person myself next week to both sus him out and also general chat about what he does.
This is want i mean people just expect the guy to start giving answers on an online forum he probably doesnt even know we are talking about him or even know about AMC, i understand they want proof which is fine but none of them seem to know how to pick up a phone and ring him to ask questions.
it just seems that most members cant comprehend that someone else apart form Steve knight can tune the ECU
I'm glad your ringing him i hope he tells you everything as it would be good to have another person who can tune a factory magna ECU
I also think that Steve has done and will continue to do a great service to the magna community.
he knows his stuff thats for sure. If all goes to plan, we might have a decent tuner for the stock ECU in the sydney region. I am sure he wouldn't say no to the business, even if there is only 10 people interested!
wendnarb
06-11-2009, 08:15 PM
I for one will be calling this person myself next week to both sus him out and also general chat about what he does.
am very interested to hear what you learn about him and if he sounds like he knows his stuff..
thanks madmagna, your awesome!!
I think its great that there may be a person in the sydney area able to tune our stock ECU's. I know its all good and well telling everybody to go to SKR but the problem is that if you were to post it you will not be getting optimal tunes. Sure you could drive there and have it dyno tuned but nobody seems to consider that for a sydney member to drive to adelaide, pay for accomadation, a tune, and drive back they are looking at $1200 or more and a few days off work. This can get VERY costly VERY quick.
I may contact this guy in sydney to see if he is able to remove the immobilizer and if so how much on my TH Sports ECU to make my tippy installation a little easier.
wendnarb
06-11-2009, 08:57 PM
from what i remember gremlin is already able to remove the immobilizer.. he might be able to do it for you for a small fee... shoot him a pm?
gremlin
07-11-2009, 12:43 AM
you ppl wonder why i held that contact back for 12 months... jesus
Tonba
07-11-2009, 04:38 AM
^ FYI Hitman is a well respected tuner in performance car circles. I rate him.
Mecha-wombat
07-11-2009, 04:51 AM
Cyber he said he cracked the evo X ecu which MAY be the same as my 380 *ears prick up*
WELL I am following your progress with what can be done good chav LOL
Trotty
07-11-2009, 05:12 AM
^ FYI Hitman is a well respected tuner in performance car circles. I rate him.
Would there be a chance he's craked the TS ecu?
Might go have a chat. Hitman is like 3 mins down the road.
White
07-11-2009, 05:52 AM
Cyber he said he cracked the evo X ecu which MAY be the same as my 380 *ears prick up*
WELL I am following your progress with what can be done good chav LOL
steve has tried to do the 380 ecu. when in development once the cardigan was applied by bosch thats it. even after the cardigan was cracked as soon as he tried changing something it went into limp mode and you throw it in the bin cant fix it after that. ive spoke to bosch about it and they verified this. if anything were to be changed the ecu programming locks you out and you bin it.
Mecha-wombat
07-11-2009, 06:48 AM
This is the one time I officially hate BOSCH
I love BOSCH every other time
khorne
07-11-2009, 06:55 AM
Have you made the call yet madmagna, and does anyone know if hitman has reversed engineer a th 3.5 manual rom.
Mrmacomouto
07-11-2009, 07:03 AM
steve has tried to do the 380 ecu. when in development once the cardigan was applied by bosch thats it. even after the cardigan was cracked as soon as he tried changing something it went into limp mode and you throw it in the bin cant fix it after that. ive spoke to bosch about it and they verified this. if anything were to be changed the ecu programming locks you out and you bin it.
Probably a checksum or something
Mohit
07-11-2009, 07:06 AM
This is the one time I officially hate BOSCH
I love BOSCH every other time
Just go the piggy ECU option. It won't make a difference in the end if you're running an unopened engine with just the usual bolt on mods.
Magtone
07-11-2009, 10:33 AM
QMD is organising SKR to come up a and do a tune at the end of the month.
For those interested in the Piggyback V's Flashed Factory ECU argument, I will be able to give feedback after I have my Emanage removed and a tune put onto the ECU.
Blackbird
08-11-2009, 08:49 AM
Nice thread!!
I'm interested in reflashing my ECU.
Either by Hitman (Being a Sydneysider myself) or getting Steve Knight to do it. Not really fussed by whom..Seems both have their followers and no-one has said anything bad about either yet....
QMD has the right idea by flying him up to do their cars... enough people get together could be a very cost effective method.
Anyone interested in getting together
(With the blessing of AMC Mods of course)
to get a group buy thing going??
Could be a good discount if we got say 20 cars going??!!!
What do ya'll think??
Steve
Steve's work is both professional and honest, no complaints here whatsoever.
timmy_666
09-11-2009, 12:32 PM
In the future if some of the Vic guys ever wanna put in to fly Steve down id most likely be interested :D As blackbird said, could be pretty cheap if we end up with like 10+ ppl interested...just a thought anyway
In the future if some of the Vic guys ever wanna put in to fly Steve down id most likely be interested :D As blackbird said, could be pretty cheap if we end up with like 10+ ppl interested...just a thought anyway
SKR is in Adeliaide AFAIK, surely not that far to drive?
86_Elite
09-11-2009, 03:17 PM
Correct and we got him next! bwahaha mine mine mine! Nah this thread has been a good read and very informative. I definately want to keep the 3.0 for the moment and along with induction kit and cams an SKR tune for 98 RON is high on my list of mods to do!
Guys - Some info on hitman.
I sent him a couple emails asking about immob removal on a TH sports ECU, and unfortunantly he cannot do any bench work. The ECU needs to be in the car while he works.
gremlin
09-11-2009, 05:51 PM
I sent him a couple emails asking about immob removal on a TH sports ECU, and unfortunantly he cannot do any bench work. The ECU needs to be in the car while he works.
thats interesting..thought it would be easy enough to rig up a harness so you can fire the ecu up on a bench... im pretty sure a few ppl on openecu have done this
Boozer
09-11-2009, 06:33 PM
In the future if some of the Vic guys ever wanna put in to fly Steve down id most likely be interested :D As blackbird said, could be pretty cheap if we end up with like 10+ ppl interested...just a thought anyway
just visit him when you to go to MMX if you are, hit 2 birds with 1 stone... if anything i can see the SA rep organising a day that may include SKR
thats interesting..thought it would be easy enough to rig up a harness so you can fire the ecu up on a bench... im pretty sure a few ppl on openecu have done this
Thats what I was thinking! Anyways, I'll get a quote from mits to recode it to fit my current BEM and see how I go - Otherwise I'll have to swap everything out.
alscall
09-11-2009, 07:41 PM
Guys - Some info on hitman.
I sent him a couple emails asking about immob removal on a TH sports ECU, and unfortunantly he cannot do any bench work. The ECU needs to be in the car while he works.
Why not ship it to SKR & have him remove the immobilizer?
Why not ship it to SKR & have him remove the immobilizer?
The problem with steve knight is the cost, it was something like $160 to remove the immob.
gremlin
09-11-2009, 07:44 PM
The problem with steve knight is the cost, it was something like $160 to remove the immob.
not a bad price really man
Once you add postage each way and such it'll be about $180, I'm looking for something around the ~$100-110 mark. Maybe I'm just a cheapass?
Poita
10-11-2009, 05:55 AM
Once you add postage each way and such it'll be about $180, I'm looking for something around the ~$100-110 mark. Maybe I'm just a cheapass?
Yep :P
Magtone
12-11-2009, 06:47 AM
The problem with steve knight is the cost, it was something like $160 to remove the immob.
whats the advantage of removing the immobilizer?
gremlin
12-11-2009, 07:21 AM
whats the advantage of removing the immobilizer?
you can swap ecu from one car to another
seano
25-11-2009, 07:54 PM
Did anyone end up going to this guy in Syd? ringing him up to run a questionnaire on him to see if "he knows" stuff etc? There was allot of ill do this and ill do that and nobody does it better than this and he cant possibly do that but no real official, definitive result.
Was there another thread created about it. It lmentions in here someone was gonna create one but i coudn't find it.
I'm with the other NSW guys is all and if someone can do this sort of work closer to me. I'm up for checking it out.
Cheers.
TJTime
25-11-2009, 08:21 PM
hey, can steve knight tune cars with LPG on them?
alscall
25-11-2009, 08:24 PM
hey, can steve knight tune cars with LPG on them?
Yeah, he doesn't tune the LPG, though. He tunes the vehicles ECU, which in turn controls the petrol only. Which system do you have?
Polvo
25-11-2009, 08:27 PM
Parden my Ignorance but can someone please tell me the benefits of Re flashing one's ECU? :S
Did anyone end up going to this guy in Syd? ringing him up to run a questionnaire on him to see if "he knows" stuff etc? There was allot of ill do this and ill do that and nobody does it better than this and he cant possibly do that but no real official, definitive result.
Was there another thread created about it. It lmentions in here someone was gonna create one but i coudn't find it.
I'm with the other NSW guys is all and if someone can do this sort of work closer to me. I'm up for checking it out.
Cheers.
I created a thread but it got locked by an admin because he wanted to check the guy was legit. Unfortunately this was never done so no one is any the wiser about this guy in Sydney. I spoke with him already and knows his stuff for sure, but my knowledge is fairly limited on reflashing elements
Madmagna
26-11-2009, 04:38 AM
Sorry guys, I will admit that I have been slack but also very busy.
I have your PM here Cyboer so will get to this early next week bud and come back to you
Boozer
26-11-2009, 05:08 AM
Parden my Ignorance but can someone please tell me the benefits of Re flashing one's ECU? :S
The standard 3rd gens do not have a knock sensor fitted so you won't see the benefits of higher octane fuel by having the ecu advancing or retarding timing based on fuel quality, so by reflashing you are adjusting/changing timing and fueling, you can gain more power and may lower consumption (depending on driving style) . Only down side is you will have to use the octane level you have used during the tune or the motor will ping.
Sorry guys, I will admit that I have been slack but also very busy.
I have your PM here Cyboer so will get to this early next week bud and come back to you
No worries Mal, I had no intention of visiting this guy until early next year anyway :)
TJTime
26-11-2009, 06:33 AM
Yeah, he doesn't tune the LPG, though. He tunes the vehicles ECU, which in turn controls the petrol only. Which system do you have?
dont have a system yet, just wondering if i went and did a HiPo 6G74, then get LPG fitted, if somebody can first do a good tune on petrol, then a tune for LPG? That way I get monster performance with a cheap way of running it when im not gunning from the lights.
seano
26-11-2009, 10:03 AM
I created a thread but it got locked by an admin because he wanted to check the guy was legit. Unfortunately this was never done so no one is any the wiser about this guy in Sydney. I spoke with him already and knows his stuff for sure, but my knowledge is fairly limited on reflashing elements
OK cool. Thanks for info.
Madmagma - If im not mistaken you were gonna call him or something? Looking forward to the outcome
Thanks
OK cool. Thanks for info.
Madmagma - If im not mistaken you were gonna call him or something? Looking forward to the outcome
Thanks
read above mate madmagna has already replied
FamilyWagon
26-11-2009, 04:21 PM
Hey TJtime.
I have an SVI gas system on my AWD.
Yeah best do do all your mods first such as exhaust/cams/intake etc before Steves. Then get your ECU flashed at steves and then you can go and get your gas tuned by someone who can tune your particular system. Best also to have that done on a dyno a well.
I have had my gas tuned after the petrol tune at steve knights and WOW, what a difference it made.
After i installed extractors/cams/hi flow cat, gas wasnt running as well as it could because the gas ecu has a stock magna tune in it, not a tune for all the mods.
Now that i've had the gas tuned, i recon it now goes better on gas than it does petrol even after the Steve Knight 98 fuel tune. It definately has much more torque down low on gas than petrol.
But if you are intending on getting a fuel tune at Steves, you must do that first before gas tune as gas gets some of its readings from petrol ECU. In other words, do gas tune last.
And this is SVI systems we are talking about, not old mixer systems.
seano
26-11-2009, 07:27 PM
read above mate madmagna has already replied
Yeah "I have your PM here Cyboer so will get to this early next week bud and come back to you" doesnt really specifically say he is gonna call them and post up the results though.
I was more or less confirming with him if thats what me meant by that statement. I'll assume it is though.
Thanks guys.
Raziel
10-12-2009, 08:52 PM
im not sure if this has been talked about much lately, but do we have any more info on the tuner in sydney? i would be interested in getting my new awd TL reflashed after i've changed a few things [headers, cam] but not if it means driving to adelaide. its simply too far. and im not really too keen on the whole postal ecu tune, doesnt sound too accurate to me. someone in sydney i could get to quite easily however. or if SKR were to be doing a group tune in syd or melb i could be interested as well.
all a long way down the line at the moment though. just interested for in the future
gremlin
11-12-2009, 07:03 AM
well ive just joined up to the MR2 club of australia and he is very very respected on there.. he tunes very high horsepower cars for them.. so thats a positive
also, he has tuned evo's which means he has a 4wd dyno. so another positive for you..
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