So I have been having a play with some roms provided by gremlin, lets just say I got lucky and ended up with a definition file. Still working out how to host the file, but here is a screen shot of the fuel map.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2987/09111823754.jpg

Interesting times ahead for us Magna and Verada drivers!

Now so far I have only tested it with a TJs2 rom, would love to try a kj rada one... TJs1 rom did not work.

Nice one mate, would be keen to have a look myself at these roms if you're willing to share...

look similar to what i saw when i got my reflash done :)

hey mate, did you use a definition from another mitsu? i did this (cant remember which one) and was able to get the fuel ..but thats about all ...

Na, using a special one :P talk to me on msn

Wicked job. Might have to put an order in for a Tactrix cable.

Interesting!!

See how there are more map points in the lower rev ranges.
250 rpm increments, then 500 then 1,000 as the revs increase.
More opportunity to get fuelling, and I suspect ignition timing, set up just right in the rev areas where responsiveness would be much appreciated.

Gerry

Interesting!!

See how there are more map points in the lower rev ranges.
250 rpm increments, then 500 then 1,000 as the revs increase.
More opportunity to get fuelling, and I suspect ignition timing, set up just right in the rev areas where responsiveness would be much appreciated.

Gerry

thats just the scaling in ecuflash.. you can rescale the increments if you wish..

Interesting. My dyno tune produced obv similar - hey, can't go and re-invent the wheel! - graphs, except on the higher RPM it was quite rich, close to 10,5. Fortunately I can alter these my self. Just need to get this WB AFR gauge sorted.

Interesting. My dyno tune produced obv similar - hey, can't go and re-invent the wheel! - graphs, except on the higher RPM it was quite rich, close to 10,5. Fortunately I can alter these my self. Just need to get this WB AFR gauge sorted.

now you see why magnas dont achieve as much as other cars (commo's, falcons) with retunes..they come out with a fairly decent tune from factory

Any one have a SKR tune they would like to put forward for inspection? I am going to see if I have enough money for a cable this week, if so it means we could do basic things locally like remove immob.

Looks like SKR base tune is the same fuel map as the standard one, just the ignition timing changes.

Looks like SKR base tune is the same fuel map as the standard one, just the ignition timing changes.


Interesting! Do you think there's any room to move with the fuel map?


p.s I have a KJ Verada and am in Coburg if you are keen on pulling the bin from my ECU

I remember with mine, Steve advanced the timing and also made the air/fuel ratio leaner.

Interesting! Do you think there's any room to move with the fuel map?


Yeah duno, really need to get a look at a Ralliart at this point.

i have a manual ralliart ecu you could borrow so you can download the rom. in return for a retune. :happy:

I'm more doing this for the betterment of the club rather than handing out retunes.

Need someone with a Ralliart Auto, with traction.

so do you want to borrow the ecu to take the rom off it???

So, If an skr tune is just timing advance, lets all go tojaycay and get timing interceptors? 80 bucks instead 0f 500?
:roflwtf:

Yeah that would be awesome.


So, If an skr tune is just timing advance, lets all go tojaycay and get timing interceptors? 80 bucks instead 0f 500?
:roflwtf:

Only his very basic tunes, I am sure the custom ones he does would be more than just timing.

then we caould couple the $80 timing interecptor, with a $65 air/fuel ratio adjuster.
I dont see what else he could be doing though.

edit: so when he advances timing, he just moves it to like 17degrees btdc right, instead of 15

then we caould couple the $80 timing interecptor, with a $65 air/fuel ratio adjuster.
I dont see what else he could be doing though.

edit: so when he advances timing, he just moves it to like 17degrees btdc right, instead of 15

Not quite, the map is quite different.

Did you guys not read my previous post. Steve also changed the acceleration parameters to provide better off-the-mark acceleration.

Did you guys not read my previous post. Steve also changed the acceleration parameters to provide better off-the-mark acceleration.

Err?

Sounds like he might have changed your fuel map as well, I am saying that his base tune (the one you get when you send him an ECU) is just timing changes.

Err?

Sounds like he might have changed your fuel map as well, I am saying that his base tune (the one you get when you send him an ECU) is just timing changes.

Yes, as stated in my first post, he made the AFR leaner across the range.

You in Vic any time soon?

Anyone closer to being able to flash these ECU's yet??

I have the ability to do all the work with either the MUTII or with other software however in so far as tunes goes, Steve is the guru and even with my own car, when it comes to the actual tune he is the only one I will trust to do anything with fuel or ignition, plus he has the Dyno so can get it 100%

I can do all other bits like ECU unlocking, key learning, clearing codes, fining issues etc etc

anyone got an proven dyno results from tunes? would be interesting to post

Do a search, plenty of people have posted dyno results with before and after SKR tune. Can also check the been flashed social group for results

anyone got an proven dyno results from tunes? would be interesting to post

Mate, not being rude by why would you even ask this. You have been around the forums for only a short time but seem to have replied to almost every thread made in the last few months so surely you would have seen threads and posts all over the place about SKR set up, the fact that without people like Steve Knight most of your cars would not even be on the road in the first place.

Steve is the guru and even with my own car, when it comes to the actual tune he is the only one I will trust to do anything with fuel or ignition, plus he has the Dyno so can get it 100%


The only thing that is stopping me from getting my car's ECU flashed by him is the fact that he's in Adelaide!?

Is there anyone closer (i.e Melbourne) that has got proven results yet? Gremlin? Does anyone know if Matt Lowth could do it?

The only thing that is stopping me from getting my car's ECU flashed by him is the fact that he's in Adelaide!?
Is there anyone closer (i.e Melbourne) that has got proven results yet? Gremlin? Does anyone know if Matt Lowth could do it?

There's quite a few people from Vic that have been over to SKR to have a tune done...some have even gone back for a re-tune. 3 days, & you're there & back. Plus you get to be involved in the process, unlike your local tuner - "here's the keys, I'll be back tomorrow, hopefully you get it right!"

Whereabouts in Adelaide is this SKR and how much for re-tune? (apologies if this seems ignorant question)

Lonsdale.

Approx $500 for a dyno tune.

There's quite a few people from Vic that have been over to SKR to have a tune done...some have even gone back for a re-tune. 3 days, & you're there & back. Plus you get to be involved in the process, unlike your local tuner - "here's the keys, I'll be back tomorrow, hopefully you get it right!"


Unfortunately I work 6-7 days a week, so this aint an option..... :sook:

There's quite a few people from Vic that have been over to SKR to have a tune done...some have even gone back for a re-tune. 3 days, & you're there & back. Plus you get to be involved in the process, unlike your local tuner - "here's the keys, I'll be back tomorrow, hopefully you get it right!"

My tuner in Sydney was great, he did my car and apricot rockets, he was talking me through the whole process as it was on the rollers

Looking for someone with a untuned ralliart in Melbourne/Victoria so I could take a copy of their ROM

i would also like to see the difference between the VRX and Ralliart roms.

Pretty sure the VRX is just a normal tune, my GTVI is the same as an exec

Okay! Created a ROM for my car using the Ralliart details. Running on 98Ron fuel my Freeway consumption (111KM/H) has dropped from 9.4 to 8.9, that works out to be 44KM's more from a full tank on the Freeway.

Around town it's a bit of a different story, consumption is up because I can't stop putting my foot down at every chance! The power increase wasn't so obvious at first but after I cleared the ECU it seemed to be better, must have been something to do with learning. I am estimating 2-10KW, without a dyno it's a bit hard to tell. Oddly my exhaust note seems to have changed to, but only up higher in the rev range. Sounds like it's working a bit harder up top instead of flattening out.

So more timing and slightly leaner AFR?

Hey lowrider

I'm in sydney and looking for a tuner, what are his details??

thanks in advance

Okay! Created a ROM for my car using the Ralliart details. Running on 98Ron fuel



Are R.A magnas designed for 98?

Are R.A magnas designed for 98?

nope they had a 91ron tune...

I am running it on 98 to make sure there is no pre detonation, afr's are kept the same... I think they could be a bit leaner.

I read somewhere that the Ralliart have similar AFR to the VRX but different timing map.

From the roms I have seen the AFR's are the same on every magna and verada. Timing map is defiantly different.

From the roms I have seen the AFR's are the same on every magna and verada. Timing map is defiantly different.

likewise...

AFR's the same across the board... timing in ralliarts different as stated..

Still waiting for someone to tweak it a little and be able to flash my ECU!!!!

Hey lowrider

I'm in sydney and looking for a tuner, what are his details??

thanks in advance

port hacking automotive
Ben Cox 95449477

Still waiting for someone to tweak it a little and be able to flash my ECU!!!!

I can't see any problems with your KJ.

I have taken this knowledge I have acquired a little bit further and it is probably going to take a decent amount of time to figure out, talking months or years here.

After finding just about everything I could do with the stock magna rom gremlin put me onto some interesting information about the evos, some guy (a very smart one that is almost impossible to contact) had started to recode the ECU rom to include features that were never included, just like launch control. Now I am not even sure if it is possible for us or how hard it would be to do so at this point but he has coded these features for the Evo8 ECU and just by luck the magna one shares the exact same CPU. This should make it a lot easier to try and see how he did it and maybe with his permission copy his code. That said, I hate coding and picking assembly code isn't exactly the best starting step.

Hopefully at some point I will be offering up some more information. I don't really understand anything at the moment so I can't offer much help... but if someone knows even the basics of assembly I would love to hear from them.

Please note, I am doing this from a developmental side to benefit the whole magna community. I do not plan on selling or giving away any thing but the standard executive tune as that would not be fair on SKN, RalliArt or Mitsubishi.

Please note, I am doing this from a developmental side to benefit the whole magna community. I do not plan on selling or giving away any thing but the standard executive tune as that would not be fair on SKN, RalliArt or Mitsubishi.

How is it not fair? Many of the tuners, e.g. SKR have usually figured this stuff out for themselves and not sharing and more often in the case of alot of EVOs etc - are using freely available info, etc.

They still offer the services of doing good tunes, etc... rather than some idiot hacking up their engine and potentially breaking it :P

How is it not fair? Many of the tuners, e.g. SKR have usually figured this stuff out for themselves and not sharing and more often in the case of alot of EVOs etc - are using freely available info, etc.

They still offer the services of doing good tunes, etc... rather than some idiot hacking up their engine and potentially breaking it :P

I think we are saying the same thing, I'm not releasing any tunes or anything to be considered IP... the info on how to tune the ECU is a different story.

That said, I wouldn't suggest people start playing around with their maps or even the ECu's at all... leave that one to the people that know what they are doing, because chances are you will fry something.

I think we are saying the same thing, I'm not releasing any tunes or anything to be considered IP... the info on how to tune the ECU is a different story.

That said, I wouldn't suggest people start playing around with their maps or even the ECu's at all... leave that one to the people that know what they are doing, because chances are you will fry something.

Oh right, as in you're not gonna try release the ralliart tunes or someones SKR tune or something.. gotcha.. no problems...

Why would you not share the ralliart tune? the idea of these forums is to help each other save money on maintenance etc by getting answers/advice to on things we dont know and therefore hopefully avoid paying mechanics huge prices for small jobs easily done at home. You said you had already adapted your tune, to run 98ron, so technically you have already been unfair to SKR etc as that is work he could of done for you. not having a go just think if you have the info to improves others cars, provided they have the gear and knowhow, then why not!!!

Why would you not share the ralliart tune? the idea of these forums is to help each other save money on maintenance etc by getting answers/advice to on things we dont know and therefore hopefully avoid paying mechanics huge prices for small jobs easily done at home. You said you had already adapted your tune, to run 98ron, so technically you have already been unfair to SKR etc as that is work he could of done for you. not having a go just think if you have the info to improves others cars, provided they have the gear and knowhow, then why not!!!


Because it was given to me for development, not deployment.

And I don't think it's the best tune in the world, will hopefully be working on something custom soon.

Sounds good, so with launch control, is this an ECU only thing? What else would be needed to activate it in a magna? push button? switch?

With my ECU its activated by a switch to earth.

Just to reflash my memory from my subaru days (dont ask) launch control does what to stop your car breaking again? or does it activate a certain RPM to launch at or what.... my mates GC8 WRX had launch control but we just used to launch off limiter with all 4 wheels baking it up lol

With a valid speed input to the ECU so it knows how fast you are going (ABS sensor is what I'm using) and an RPM signal, In the software you specify a cutoff RPM below a certain speed.
i.e.
30km/h and 3000RPM.
so with LC engaged via the switch, with the car under 30km/h, you will be limited to 3000PRM even if your foot is flat to the floor. once you break that speed your RPM comes back.
Yet to trial this but that is how it works.

so your sitting at the drag strip, LC engaged with foot flat to floor and car will not rev pass 3,000rpm, you take off and as soon as you reach 30km/hr it disengages or you switch off? and away you go with out wheels spinning all over the place from launching too hard..... correct?

so your sitting at the drag strip, LC engaged with foot flat to floor and car will not rev pass 3,000rpm, you take off and as soon as you reach 30km/hr it disengages or you switch off? and away you go with out wheels spinning all over the place from launching too hard..... correct?

Pretty much, All it is is a drivers aide. I'm sure anyone here can keep the car at a steady RPM but this does it for you. So instead of having to worry about keeping RPM steady, when to engage clutch, when to back off throttle, All you have to do is mash your foot to the floor and worry about engaging the clutch.

thats hot, I want it!

It's going to be about the hardest thing to implement, i don't have a manual.

Just so everyone knows, I have the roms and def files from several cars including EVO's with some of these features and am also working with someone who works on Evo's who has indicated he is willing to lend a hand

Timeframe I am not sure on given that this person is extrememly busy however will keep everyone updated

got a 1999 3000GT TT ROM if your interested.

Mal, I have a spare 3.5 Manual ECU here still locked if you want to load it onto that ole mate and ill give it a go!! :D haha no but seriously....

That launch control does sound cool, and im sure you could use it for other things like teaching ya son to drive, lol. take away the ability to redline at any speed so he cant thrash ya car if he borrows it!!! hey that is a great idea for an product, i think!. anyway would love to have a 95 ron tune even.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ynnejnxe3gz
http://www.mediafire.com/?5zuacjoxkjx

Rom definition files, if you want to use these you will have to do some google. Program is called ecuflash, you will also need a openport 2.0 cable or a reflash connector from these people
http://www.tactrix.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=6&Itemid=53

Your better off getting a pro to do it, give steve knight a call.

Got a better job, given up on the other features

Thanks Dude, good stuff! heaps of info I can use off these :D

How did you go with the ROM file?

Still nutting it out, so far can only view the ralliart manual one, but yeah that's all I need to see right now anyway :D

Ralliart manual is all you need, the auto one is the same

Files no longer available for download???

ummmm

Still working here, might have been a temporary issue. Try again and if it doesn't work pm me your email and I will send them to you

oh yea back online now, cheers!

I think your all very precious........ do a google search & see what the Americans have available on Evo Tunes. They got the car late, from Evo VIII i believe. Check out the wealth of freely available info on subaru's, i mean really, do you think MMAL even give a Toss, what your doing with th computer on a car they STOPPED selling over 10 years ago! You are accessing the tunes using a cable & software bought over the net from New Zealand, Doesnt sound like that has a Mitsubishi part number. Check out the Ecu tunes available for Hondas, they have base tunes for turbo, non turbo, supercharger, vtec............ its a forum, a community for sharing .

I think your all very precious........ do a google search & see what the Americans have available on Evo Tunes. They got the car late, from Evo VIII i believe. Check out the wealth of freely available info on subaru's, i mean really, do you think MMAL even give a Toss, what your doing with th computer on a car they STOPPED selling over 10 years ago! You are accessing the tunes using a cable & software bought over the net from New Zealand, Doesnt sound like that has a Mitsubishi part number. Check out the Ecu tunes available for Hondas, they have base tunes for turbo, non turbo, supercharger, vtec............ its a forum, a community for sharing .

ummm....

I think your all very precious........ do a google search & see what the Americans have available on Evo Tunes. They got the car late, from Evo VIII i believe. Check out the wealth of freely available info on subaru's, i mean really, do you think MMAL even give a Toss, what your doing with th computer on a car they STOPPED selling over 10 years ago! You are accessing the tunes using a cable & software bought over the net from New Zealand, Doesnt sound like that has a Mitsubishi part number. Check out the Ecu tunes available for Hondas, they have base tunes for turbo, non turbo, supercharger, vtec............ its a forum, a community for sharing .

Ok back under your bridge... i think some goats are coming!!!

I think your all very precious........ do a google search & see what the Americans have available on Evo Tunes. They got the car late, from Evo VIII i believe. Check out the wealth of freely available info on subaru's, i mean really, do you think MMAL even give a Toss, what your doing with th computer on a car they STOPPED selling over 10 years ago! You are accessing the tunes using a cable & software bought over the net from New Zealand, Doesnt sound like that has a Mitsubishi part number. Check out the Ecu tunes available for Hondas, they have base tunes for turbo, non turbo, supercharger, vtec............ its a forum, a community for sharing .

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha pass the crack pipe, your post makes no sense to us sober people.

I think your all very precious........ do a google search & see what the Americans have available on Evo Tunes. They got the car late, from Evo VIII i believe. Check out the wealth of freely available info on subaru's, i mean really, do you think MMAL even give a Toss, what your doing with th computer on a car they STOPPED selling over 10 years ago! You are accessing the tunes using a cable & software bought over the net from New Zealand, Doesnt sound like that has a Mitsubishi part number. Check out the Ecu tunes available for Hondas, they have base tunes for turbo, non turbo, supercharger, vtec............ its a forum, a community for sharing .

So what is the go buddy, are you just thread mining to add totally nothing to threads in order to get your post count up or what

YES please do pop an evo tune into your VERADA RALLIART mate, will be interesting to see just how it does run on 4cyl


The reason people dont go spruking tunes all over the place is that we have respect for the work others do, those being paid.......

I have taken this knowledge I have acquired a little bit further and it is probably going to take a decent amount of time to figure out, talking months or years here.

After finding just about everything I could do with the stock magna rom gremlin put me onto some interesting information about the evos, some guy (a very smart one that is almost impossible to contact) had started to recode the ECU rom to include features that were never included, just like launch control. Now I am not even sure if it is possible for us or how hard it would be to do so at this point but he has coded these features for the Evo8 ECU and just by luck the magna one shares the exact same CPU. This should make it a lot easier to try and see how he did it and maybe with his permission copy his code. That said, I hate coding and picking assembly code isn't exactly the best starting step.

Hopefully at some point I will be offering up some more information. I don't really understand anything at the moment so I can't offer much help... but if someone knows even the basics of assembly I would love to hear from them.

Please note, I am doing this from a developmental side to benefit the whole magna community. I do not plan on selling or giving away any thing but the standard executive tune as that would not be fair on SKN, RalliArt or Mitsubishi.

What do you want to know?

I have sucessfully added outputs on condition to magna H8 rom and VR4 rom, and working on live tuning for the H8 platform. I've managed to hijack MUT and read/write to any location of RAM, next step is to relocate map to RAM - this is proving difficult as i dont want to interfere with the stack.

I have an auto TL V6 and would like to have the VATS removed from the ECU so as to eliminate a common problem from the vehicle, I know it makes the car more vulnerable to theft, but that is no concern as it will still lock and still have the alarm active, if they get past that then they can have it because it would mean they really want it. The reason is I live in central QLD and have no easy access to anyone that can scan these things for their trouble codes.
Any help would be appreciated.

rossi1959, PM sent in response to your other post...

Thanks WytWun, I have sent a reply.