View Full Version : Supercharge or not supercharge ? This is my dilemma
lookout
20-11-2009, 07:20 AM
Hi all.
I recently came across a supercharger from a V6 dunnydore, and was thinking about fitting it to the Magna.
My dilemma is, the engine is starting to consume oil and needs some kind of repair, PCV - valve guides or even rings, not sure yet. Any help on what parts l should use for either naturally aspirated or forced induction would be great!
Thanks guy's and gal's!!
Alan J
20-11-2009, 08:10 AM
Unless you have a load of cash and lots of mechanical nouse yourself don't go the forced induction route. Drop in a 380 engine is the easiest and probably cheapest, and should go well on stock ECU. I now have Graham Bell's cams and heads on my TL with stock ECU and its going very well. Great improvement in grunt and a bit better fuel economy too. But my 3.5 engine only had 100,000+ on it otherwise I would most likely have gone for a 3.8 as a base for modification.
With the AWD you need headers too to free up flow from the rear bank. Plus a VR/VRX rear muffler.
Cheers,
Alan
lookout
20-11-2009, 11:09 AM
Unless you have a load of cash and lots of mechanical nouse yourself don't go the forced induction route. Drop in a 380 engine is the easiest and probably cheapest, and should go well on stock ECU. I now have Graham Bell's cams and heads on my TL with stock ECU and its going very well. Great improvement in grunt and a bit better fuel economy too. But my 3.5 engine only had 100,000+ on it otherwise I would most likely have gone for a 3.8 as a base for modification.
With the AWD you need headers too to free up flow from the rear bank. Plus a VR/VRX rear muffler.
Cheers,
Alan
"Graham Bell" Is this a part, or a person ?
I am a fabricator, so the labor for supercharging is nominal. My question is to do more with parts supply for any of the choices l have.
Such as good pistons, rings, cams, valves, etc for either application?
Alan J
20-11-2009, 02:06 PM
"Graham Bell" Is this a part, or a person ?
I am a fabricator, so the labor for supercharging is nominal. My question is to do more with parts supply for any of the choices l have.
Such as good pistons, rings, cams, valves, etc for either application?
Graham Bell is a engine tuner/engineer.
Being a fabricator will save you a little. Are you a fitter/turner/machinist too? Can you have the car off the road for months? What is your budget?
Apart from the obvious like the blower, other things you need or need to engineer are: blower drive, inlet manifold/s, intercooler or water injection, bigger injectors and fuel pump, ECU remap. Plus whatever required to recondition the engine. There is a lot of $$$$ in all that even if you just upgrade to forged pistons and recondition the rest of the engine with stock heads and cams. That is why I suggested something a lot cheaper and a lot less trouble like going for a 380 engine with a few modifications.
Cheers,
Alan
doddski
20-11-2009, 04:45 PM
I dont think that the Supercharger from the commodore, will actually fit / mount to the 6G74 without lots of modification - will the SC pulley line up with the drive belts? Inlet manifold
will require an idler/tension pulley in there too.
Supercharging - is a BIG expense - the getting it might be cheap, the fitting might be cheap - but the long term running of a supercharger (esp when the tune / vehc has issues with it) adds up to much cost quite fast.
You do realise that with SCing, you need to service the car a lot more frequently, and if you dont / cant service the car yourself, the mechanics costs add up quite fast... trust me i know.
Pre-Post EDIT - Alan J has pretty much said everything i would have said, but in a nicer easier to read way.
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