I know it been talked about before and the general consensus is that this motor is a rareity. What I want it to know is how different it is from our 3.5 litres? Where does the 194KW come from? Are serviceable parts the same? Spark plugs, belts etc? I only ask cause I have a relative who imports JAP cars and he might be able to source one for me? Do they use the same trans as ours? Same orientation (trans on the right)? Any info would be great! :D

i think difference between standard Aus made v6 3.5 magna engine and a jap made mevic engine is going to be same as

difference between hondal GLI engine and Honda VVti engine.

but then again i dont know much about engines :)

From what I've read, I don't think there is actually a MIVEC 3.5L. There's a 3L MIVEC, but I'm pretty sure that the Jap spec 6G74 is just a DOHC, without variable timing. I'm pretty sure it has same mounting as our 6G74, but they are apparently rare as hens teeth.

dont know if its tru but i read somewhere that the japs 2.6L engine is as powerful as our 3.5L..

oh and does anyone know how muvh it would cost for the 3L plus shipping and installing ?

I once asked Dave at RPW what a MIVEC 3.5 was worth. He had one on the floor for $6000. :shock:

I don't think he actually has one. He once said that he had a Mivec 3.0 but Blake thinks it's actually a GDI engine. So, I don't know but would love to find out.

i'm pretty sure the 3.5 mivec was from a Pajero Evo (paris dakkar rally car) and i think they might be mounted NS instead of the EW like our engines... anyone else know anymore?

i'm pretty sure the 3.5 mivec was from a Pajero Evo (paris dakkar rally car) and i think they might be mounted NS instead of the EW like our engines... anyone else know anymore?
its all a bit of a mystery!!!
definates: 6G72 MIVEC and 6G72 GDi, there was a 3.5 MIVEC in the EVO pajero, as was a 4.0 V6 MIVEC in latest Dakar pajero

rumours which i'd love to see proven: 6G74 MIVEC, 6G74 GDi.... none of the D's in Japan came with any bigger than a 6G72... but thats all i've ever found!!!

its correct there was a 3.5 mivec for dakar rally pajero, but i dont know of any other car using it...maybe 05 magna? they closing the adelaide engine plant so we will get imported engines.. maybe this is it!

its correct there was a 3.5 mivec for dakar rally pajero, but i dont know of any other car using it...maybe 05 magna? they closing the adelaide engine plant so we will get imported engines.. maybe this is it!

I've had the same thought. PRAISE THE LORD!! But seriously Mitsi Aus better came up with something fast to keep up with Falcon (182KW) and New Commodore
(200KW). Otherwise they're gonna be left way way behind. :cry:

I've had the same thought. PRAISE THE LORD!! But seriously Mitsi Aus better came up with something fast to keep up with Falcon (182KW) and New Commodore
(200KW). Otherwise they're gonna be left way way behind. :cry:


page 8 daily telegraph,Sat 22nd,
mivev coming soon!!!

page 8 daily telegraph,Sat 22nd,
mivev coming soon!!!
i haven't read that article (i can't find a copy anywhere :confused: ) but i'm going to bet that they (the authors) stuffed up and misquoted something... I know for sure there are MIVEC engines coming in the Grandis and Lancers, but there are no 6G75's in production with a MIVEC system, hell i can't even find a DOHC 6G74!!! and i've been searching for an hour!!

i wouldn't worry about the 182/200kW falcodores... they are such lard arses that they need it to move, let alone hook up! seeing as a manual 6G74 magna has no trouble keeping with the BA falcon's 182kW, i don't see how a ~180kW 6g75 is going to loose to it!!! unless it gets mightily porky in the process!!!

unless it gets mightily porky in the process!!![/QUOTE]


the new magna is meant to be shorter so probably not.

unless it gets mightily porky in the process!!!


the new magna is meant to be shorter so probably not.[/QUOTE]
shorter doesn't neccessarily mean lighter (but it will help)... the liberty's got bigger but lost weight!!! it depends on how clever the little MMC engineers in Jap/Aus are at designing and integrating it all!! seeing as its a whole new car, they should be able to make it reasonable light!

hell i can't even find a DOHC 6G74!!! and i've been searching for an hour!!

http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/mitsubishi/diamante/
You can also remove the diamante part from the URL to check out other Mitsu cars like Pajero and Debonair.

http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/mitsubishi/diamante/
You can also remove the diamante part from the URL to check out other Mitsu cars like Pajero and Debonair.
thanks mate, i actually found that in my travells :D ... the only problem is... there are no MIVEC 6G74s there :cry: ... there are a hell of a lot of GDI 6G74 examples, not that they're bad
176kW & Max.torque(net) = 343.23 N*m / 2500 rpm thats some low down torque hit!!! i did find some 6G74 DOHC engines that fit between the 6G72 MIVEC 198kW(301Nm) and the 6974 GDI for power though.... 191kW(323Nm), sounds good compared to 155kW(315Nm) for the SOHC but that would be on Jap fuel too...

Yeah, I wouldn't expect that the Mivec 3.5 would be there if it was for the Evo Pajero as I don't think it's available for public sale.

Motor or Wheels talked about the Dakkar Paj recently. I'll have a squiz tonight but I can't remember it ever mentioning Mivec. They said the engines been taken out to 4l but wouldn't quote any other figures or specs. :rant:

Motor or Wheels talked about the Dakkar Paj recently. I'll have a squiz tonight but I can't remember it ever mentioning Mivec. They said the engines been taken out to 4l but wouldn't quote any other figures or specs. :rant:
yeah, i remember reading it too... (i can't quite remember the specs though)... what i do remember is watching the Dakar on SBS and them saying that the engines were 4L MIVECs, unless they were just trying to advertise MIVEC.... i'm not sure... mind you, if i was entering in Dakar, i'd want MIVEC!! (turbo would be to unreliable for that race!)

edit: found it... here (http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/motorsports/e/04dakar/team/cars.html) ya go :)

Go to this link
then click on the article from 21/05/04 (second one)
"mitzy in aus, now there's something to look forwar too"

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/mitssite/jsp/pages/company/press/press.jsp

It talks about what new models are comming out in 2005
they mention a magna VR-X "Quadtech" with a mivec engine.
i would imagine this would be a AWD magna VR-X with the MIVEC engine, whatever the power output or size. it should be good.

Not trying to brag but I might be doing something rather unique next week. I'll ask a few questions, pick the brains out of the guys I meet and try and glean any info I can.

Go to this link
then click on the article from 21/05/04 (second one)
"mitzy in aus, now there's something to look forwar too"

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/mitssite/jsp/pages/company/press/press.jsp

It talks about what new models are comming out in 2005
they mention a magna VR-X "Quadtech" with a mivec engine.
i would imagine this would be a AWD magna VR-X with the MIVEC engine, whatever the power output or size. it should be good.

Apon closer inspection of the article you will notice:


A number of these new models will feature our revolutionary MIVEC engine. MIVEC stands for Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing and lift Electronic Control system

They Talk about 1 engine, and I'm afraid it will most likelly be the 2.4 MIVEC that will be fitted to Lancer sports models and Grandis, as shown HERE (http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news/news0008.htm)

Ahh I too wish for a V6 MIVEC powering the Magna :badgrin: , but unfortunatelly at least for the time being that ain't going to happen :cry:

Go to this link
then click on the article from 21/05/04 (second one)
"mitzy in aus, now there's something to look forwar too"

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/mitssite/jsp/pages/company/press/press.jsp

It talks about what new models are comming out in 2005
they mention a magna VR-X "Quadtech" with a mivec engine.
i would imagine this would be a AWD magna VR-X with the MIVEC engine, whatever the power output or size. it should be good.
yep, have read that too.... the only problem is:
These new models are the Grandis, Lancer Evo VIII, Colt and the Lancer Sportswagon. Three significantly upgraded models will also be introduced later this year: the Magna VR-X Quadtec; the 2005 model Pajero and the 2005 model Outlander.
A number of these new models will feature our revolutionary MIVEC engine. MIVEC stands for Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing and lift Electronic Control system.... now, the lancers, colt and grandis are all coming with MIVEC, which leaves the VR-X AWD, pajero and outlander as upgrades, not new cars... ie no MIVEC!!!

ok u can interpret that way if u want to be really literal that there probably wont be mivec on the "upgrades", but that dosent rule out the new 05 magna having mivec, bec its not just an upgrade.

ok u can interpret that way if u want to be really literal that there probably wont be mivec on the "upgrades", but that dosent rule out the new 05 magna having mivec, bec its not just an upgrade.
i hope you're right! but 2005 isn't that far away, and they've only just released the 3.8, i can't see them upgrading that too quickly just for us, they'll try and get some time out of it before giving us a MIVEC (damn having to make money at the expense of engineering! :rant: ). It would be possible for the sports models to have MIVEC i suppose, :D

u probly right dingo, they wouldnt give a bore and stroke AND mivec all at once :doubt: .

Upside is that it might now be as simple to stroke a 3.5 as dropping the sump and undoing those lovely4 bolt mainbearing caps and slotting in a crank from the 3.8 :D

I think it's funny how Mitsu finally got to 3.8 and Holden step back to 3.6 :bowrofl:

I think it's funny how Mitsu finally got to 3.8 and Holden step back to 3.6 :bowrofl:
yeah, its annoying how we (i like to think we represent MMAL) are now behind holden and ford for engine technology... i swear it would have been better to develope an aussie version of the MIVEC, than to simply bore/stroke to 3.8L, that HFV6 of holden's is going to kick some serious arse (especially in ecconomy stakes), and they will take it out to 3.8 when the need arises... they just don't need it yet as the 3.6 will be more powerful than all other current competitors, it would not be the case if we had MIVEC, but MMAL don't seem to know how to lead, or maybe don't want to!!!

Well at least the 3.8 in the galant, close to what we will be getting with its 172kw i think does 0-100 in 6.7sec :D

its the same ol story when holden somehow make all the right moves for the market,
holden actually didnt want the canadian 3.6 bec they thought the aust market likes a bigger engine and would give ford the lead. GM want everyone using the same stuff so holden had to take the 3.6 and then capitalises on the increased fuel prices. The other reason was that the 3.6 is basically just enough less power than the 5.7 V8, and if holden had used the 3.8 for a HF it would have been just as powerful as the V8 around the 220kw and so not worth buying the V8 as an option.

its the same ol story when holden somehow make all the right moves for the market,
holden actually didnt want the canadian 3.6 bec they thought the aust market likes a bigger engine and would give ford the lead. GM want everyone using the same stuff so holden had to take the 3.6 and then capitalises on the increased fuel prices. The other reason was that the 3.6 is basically just enough less power than the 5.7 V8, and if holden had used the 3.8 for a HF it would have been just as powerful as the V8 around the 220kw and so not worth buying the V8 as an option.
yeah, all marketing crap! although, they should look at FORD though with the XR6T, goes harder than the V8 stock, but they're still selling V8's cause they sound better and some people like a V8... people who want a V8 aren't going to buy a V6 just cause it goes as hard... otherwise we'ld all be driving 4cyl turbos!!! but again they've got to get the life out of the engine (and its design) and using the most of it right now would not be good for business.... i hate that!