hey guys. i no this isnt a realy indepth walkthrough on how to do it or anything but this is what i did to make my pod filter semi enclosed.

when i make my next one i will take more photos of the process of makeing it. so you get a better idea of how its made.

haveing my pod like this shields it from the heat alot better and also is non defectible. cops havent bugged me about it. im working on adding another airline into it aswell.

to make this setup all you need is.
-a pod filter (preferably a small fat one)
-the pod connector. ( its a rectangle plate that connects the pod filter to the airbox connector.
-a jigsaw (to cut the box)
-an old air filter or new (it will be destroyed.)

first what you do is remove the back half of the airbox
leave the front half of it there it doesent need to be touched.
attach the pod filter with the connector. make sure its on tight
(it connects to the squarish bit where the air sensor is connected to)
you will now have the pod laying down half in the encolousure.

Go get the old air filter. you will have noticed while you were takeing the airbox apart that when the filter is in place it creates a seal on the box.

what you need to do now is cut the inside of the filter out so it just leaves the the outside edge. (cut all the fluffy filter bit out with a jigsaw) when i did mine i only did the top so it would seal the box back up because i still wanted airflow come through the holes. (i need another filter so i can make the side that faces the engine shielded off to block it from more heat)

this isnt easy to explain without many photos but the back piece of the airbox that you removed has to be cut.
the easyest way to do this is to kind of line it up with the pod. look at the existing hole in the airbox and just enlarge it so that the pod filter fits into the airbox. (ill try get more photos of this)

you can now put it all back together. you should have the pod sitting inside the current box so its preaty much concealed. although when you cut the filter make sure that you keep the side that is faceing the engine bay. as this will block excess heat from the engine i no mines wrong but ill fix it when i can

i hope this guide helps anyone looking to easily hide there pod filter.

and for anyone that asks i havent felt any loss haveing my filter setup this way compared to keeping the panel filter. i dont feel much gain either i keep mine mainly for the noise it produces.

heres some photos to help out

is anyone has any questions or can think of any improvements let me no :facejump:

this is what the box looks like from the top
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/mattgreen69/18112009359.jpg
This is what it looks like when you look at it from the side. as you can see you dont realy notice the pod in there at all.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/mattgreen69/18112009360.jpg
and this photos from the engine direction remember that i did mine WRONG. i was suposed to keep that side of the filter piece to shield it from the heat. :(
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/mattgreen69/18112009361.jpg


more photos on page 2 !!!!!!

nice one, thats actually a neat idea

nice one, thats actually a neat idea

yeah its good if you need to hide a pod and it fits good in there. plan on makeing some tubeing to go into the side to get more air from the front bar to.

So whats the point of all this work? Is there any scientifically obtained proof that a pod filter is better than the flat panel?
bollie7

Is it possible to keep the entire outside of the old filter in there? Or won't the pod fit in there if you keep it all.
That way it would look 100% normal, and also you wouldn't get any hot air from the engine bay it would all be from the pipe.

I'm with you too on the sound, who cares if you get less power, the sound is grouse haha. Hopefully it doesn't muck up the AFM.

I like that you gave this a go, good effort mate. :)

Nice work brother! I couldnt care less if i got no extra power but what about sound..does it sound 'gruntier'-relatively speaking? if so then ill definetly give that a shot!

Is it possible to keep the entire outside of the old filter in there? Or won't the pod fit in there if you keep it all.
That way it would look 100% normal, and also you wouldn't get any hot air from the engine bay it would all be from the pipe.

I'm with you too on the sound, who cares if you get less power, the sound is grouse haha. Hopefully it doesn't muck up the AFM.

I like that you gave this a go, good effort mate. :)

yeah mate it fits with the whole piece thats what my second attempt is going to be like

to add to it it sounds so much better, realy loud induction noise. i wouldnt go back from a pod. i have noticed increase in throttal respose compared to the standard paper filter

non oval pod filter will play funny buggers with your MAF IIRC?

non oval pod filter will play funny buggers with your MAF IIRC?

Nah mate. I had 4 different round filters on the TR (same MAF) and it was fine. Thats just a myth

what brand of pod filter did you use buddy?

EDIT: and what size pod did you use 3''?

what brand of pod filter did you use buddy?

EDIT: and what size pod did you use 3''?

not sure about the size. it wasnt big and it wasnt small. and it was just a 40$ pod from autobarn.

not sure about the size. it wasnt big and it wasnt small. and it was just a 40$ pod from autobarn.

oh okay thanks buddy

hey guys i took some photos of the back of the encolsure. mines abit rough but it does the job :)
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/mattgreen69/25112009366.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/mattgreen69/25112009367.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/mattgreen69/25112009368.jpg

hey mate i just did mine its pretty straight forward, i did not chop the panel filter so the only whole is in the back
so its to stop any heat getting in.
lost a little torque but that is all good on my manual as it had bucket loads anyway
as anything else no difference except the main reason having a pod the sound is great
very good idea i wanted to put one in just did not like the idea of being exposed the the heat

no worrys mate glad to see you apreciate it

hey mate i just did mine its pretty straight forward, i did not chop the panel filter so the only whole is in the back
so its to stop any heat getting in.
lost a little torque but that is all good on my manual as it had bucket loads anyway
as anything else no difference except the main reason having a pod the sound is great
very good idea i wanted to put one in just did not like the idea of being exposed the the heat

If you lost torque then why did you bother keeping the setup? Sounds like a waste of time to me.

i did this for the sound im not after a faster car if i was i wouldnt have a magna
hense why i have not done any engine mods waste i've money
id buy a evo if i wanted all that
im happy with my magna fast enough for me anyway
im after looks not power if i was young again well yeah id want power
if i was rich i do it too

i didnt notice loss in torque on mine.

i didnt notice loss in torque on mine.

coz there is barely any in the 3L down low

coz there is barely any in the 3L down low

true, there still a quick car tho

where did you get the pod conector from buddy?

where did you get the pod conector from buddy?

autobarn, supercheap have them

autobarn, supercheap have them

how much are they buddy, where did you buy yours from?

same 15 bucks from auto barn. fits perfect

i think it was 20.00 from supercheap

thanks buddys

i think it was 20.00 from supercheap

could you post some pics? im sure you made yours better then mine :D

i wonder if autobarn in my town will have an adaptor lol

most likely. can u see the bulbs through your tailights?

yeah just lol

yeah just lol

haha same did you use spray tint?

so i brought the pod and the adaptor and i didn't want to cut my box up, so i rang my mate up whos a metal fab worker and he said he could make me one something like this. http://enginewhisperer.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/airbox.jpg

thats good. i didnt do that tho cause i can get defected. thus why i try make it look standard :D

lol and those rims rnt defectable :P

could you post some pics? im sure you made yours better then mine :D

yeah at some point im putting on rocker covers which i got powder coated and my polished manifold when ive finished it ill put some picks up of it all

an ezy boy pod box come up once in a while , there great


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/bigperry/TJ%20Sports/101_0066.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/bigperry/TJ%20Sports/101_0067.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/bigperry/TJ%20Sports/101_0068.jpg

haven't lost any torque, its gained a bit more

an ezy boy pod box come up once in a while , there great


http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/bigperry/TJ%20Sports/101_0066.jpg


hey, is that pipe connected to the pod at the end, or just an opening and the pod inside the box?

probably a stupid question :P

its just an opening the pod is directly attached to the maf sensor i know because i used to own it

thats realy nice. i like that haha. yeah i felt i gained from mine. didnt see loss thats a nice chrome grill u got there

lol and those rims rnt defectable :P

there not to defectable :(

thats realy nice. i like that haha. yeah i felt i gained from mine. didnt see loss thats a nice chrome grill u got there

thanks man, check out my members ride thread

thanks man, check out my members ride thread

whered you get the eyelids from

Why did this turn into a rice mods thread?

Why did this turn into a rice mods thread?

Its about pod filters, it was always about rice mods...

Its about pod filters, it was always about rice mods...

Touche...

pod filter isnt a rice mod?

whered you get the eyelids from

rather than clog up this thread, post it in my members ride thread

working on getting a k and n pod. see what it gains if anything

hey mate i just did mine its pretty straight forward, i did not chop the panel filter so the only whole is in the back
so its to stop any heat getting in.
lost a little torque but that is all good on my manual as it had bucket loads anyway
as anything else no difference except the main reason having a pod the sound is great
very good idea i wanted to put one in just did not like the idea of being exposed the the heat

ok was not the pod lossing the torque was the clutch not adjusted right now it is

how was your clutch adjustedwrong? could be the same with me after i got a new clutch it didnt feel as fast as when i had the stock one in

how was your clutch adjustedwrong? could be the same with me after i got a new clutch it didnt feel as fast as when i had the stock one in

since i had the conversion done the pedel was not all the way out so was engaged a little so very minor slip but you would not notice it i only found out as it got worse
i had to adjust the bolt on the clutch pedal and made it come out more
thw cluch was just about all the way out before it stopped engaging now i have a little play in it

oh ok i see the issue. thanks for that. i have a fair bit of play in mine so i dont think it would affect me

Hmm, will a 4.5" pod fit into the standard airbox?
Anyone know?

Hmm, will a 4.5" pod fit into the standard airbox?
Anyone know?

post a pick of a 4.5 and ill judge. not sure what size mine is

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/kangyoon20/RF-1005.jpg
found here at number 5:
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/engine-and-performance/151251-kaitospeed-k-and-n-open-pod-air-filter-112.html

After looking at this site and pictures, it seems like the length of the pod is more relevant to fitting inside the airbox.

I'm pretty sure when people talk about 3" or 4.5" pods, they talk diameter. Am I wrong in this?

In terms of air flow, you could always cut the guts out of the air filter (leaving just the outer plastic frame), and glue in one of these after cutting to size:
http://www.lukey.com.au/default.asp?pageid=PROD-AIRFILTERS&template=CONTENT
They don't have the Magna size unfortunately,

You would have to get one thats bigger width and height wise so you can cut it, and cut it slightly larger to get a good fit. Of course use the appropriate glue too, you don't want one that soaks through the filter clogging the filter part!

Advantages over a normal performance filter is smugness that you did it yourself, great airflow, and since its a dry filter no oiling related issues. I reckon this would work great in addition to an extra pipe running to the bumper. I did have one in place of the snorkel resonator, but I think cutting the front part of the box and inserting it there will be much more effective as I do see some issues with attaching it to the snorkel.

I never got around to doing this, but when I get my car back on the road this is something I plan to do.

i finished mine complete cant even tell i got one looks standard a hole in the back for the maf sensor to conect to the pod used black duck tape to seal it off have a look at my engine bay
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/album.php?albumid=260&pictureid=1412

looks good cant evan see it!

similar to how mine looks, need to enclose mine properly though

Is any performance difrence betwen small pod filter and the big ones? i have in plan to do the same set up with the std air box but i don't want to cut it! And i've seen today at "autobarn" smaller pod filter and i think is gonna fitt pretty good in the box

Is any performance difrence betwen small pod filter and the big ones?

to be honest no real diffrence from filter panel to pod just the sound as for size i put the biggest i could fit in my box cant see how the size would make a difference
some one here will correct me if im wrong

Is any performance difrence betwen small pod filter and the big ones? i have in plan to do the same set up with the std air box but i don't want to cut it! And i've seen today at "autobarn" smaller pod filter and i think is gonna fitt pretty good in the box

as for cutting you need to cut the back to fit as the maf sensor ends up going partly in the box which attaches to the oval apdapter to the pod
have a look at the previous page
havent figured out a way not to chop this

I have set up in my mind and i gonna do it tomorrow! Hope is gonna work! I gonna add some pics here if is gonna work.
Thanks for help robceline

The pod I got is too big to fit inside.
In fact, all conical pods at Supercheap were.

As for the cutting of the box, I guess I'd feel guilty cutting apart a box worth 320 to replace from Mitsubishi lol.

Obviously much cheaper from a wrecker.

Ah whatever, I'm just gonna make the EZ Boy box.

Waiting for him to come back on AMC.

Like i said i just put my plan in aplication today, and it work perfect without cutting the air box! here some pictures!

First i buy a pod filter a bit smaler than the "normal" ones
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1812
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1815
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1809
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1811
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1813

Okay, can I ask a legitimate question here.
If the pod filter is in the same airbox, getting the air from the same place, what the hell is the advantage? Why not just use a panel filter?

I think it's great what your doing but I dont see the point, Its a different filter in the same location :S

;1226650']Okay, can I ask a legitimate question here.
If the pod filter is in the same airbox, getting the air from the same place, what the hell is the advantage? Why not just use a panel filter?

I think it's great what your doing but I dont see the point, Its a different filter in the same location :S

The advantage is the pod filter is not sucking hot air from engine bay

Yeah but you aren't gaining anything either? It's probably lost u power over having a panel lol

any noise will also be absorbed by having it in the standard thick filter box

Yeah... you kinda need the cut out thats the whole point? You may as well just put a K&N panel filter in dood?

The advantage is the pod filter is not sucking hot air from engine bay

That's not an advantage thats a trade off.
The pod filter in this situation is doing EVERYTHING a standard panel filter will be doing

Sucking in the exact same air
from the exact same location.

Get my point?

having an exposed pod means;
Better sound;
Sucks in more hot air, possibly worse for the motor

So as said, a K&N panel sould do the exact same thing, probably filtrate the air easier as that pod will only really be getting air from one side.

;1226684']That's not an advantage thats a trade off.
The pod filter in this situation is doing EVERYTHING a standard panel filter will be doing

Sucking in the exact same air
from the exact same location.

Get my point?

having an exposed pod means;
Better sound;
Sucks in more hot air, possibly worse for the motor

So as said, a K&N panel sould do the exact same thing, probably filtrate the air easier as that pod will only really be getting air from one side.

i did mine for the sound and as in qld it is illegel to have an exposed pod
i was not after benefits as it would be very little gains anyway
just me 2c worth

That's a 18 dollar pod from Repco.

Personally I don't trust em, I got a Calibre (rebranded 3A) pod that's way too big for the box but has been proven to filter better than K&N.

i didnt notice any gain or loss when i did it. maybe a little more respose i also did it for the noise ;)

You can still hear them suck, not as loud as exposed but still pretty loud. I did the same thing in my XU6, with the lid off its really loud but boxed up its still a different sound to the panel.

Yeah... you kinda need the cut out thats the whole point? You may as well just put a K&N panel filter in dood?

You miss the point entirely. With a panel filer the air that goes in is SQUARE, with a pod it is ROUND, and fits through the ROUND pipes, and ROUND throttle body, through the ROUND runners, into a cylinder that is ROUND. Gotta be worth at least 15KW at the wheels! :hmm:

for a second I thought you were having a go at me then i just lol'd

I just dont see the point in mounting a pod inside the air box, all that effort when you can just mount a K&N panel filter in there with greater surface area and most likely better flow than a $19 dollar repco POD.

I just use the fram panel filter and replaced the first resonator, under the snorkle, with a piece of flexipipe that runs to the lower righthand side of the front bumper behind the lower grill (between spot lights), with a plastic mouth on the end. it faces forward to collect air. it lets me keep the standard snorkle intake, which i think is an excellent design and just supplements it with cold air. i also copied the GDI Diamante, which has slots cut out off the plastic cover infront of the snorkle, allowing it to draw air from the front grill as well as the sides of bonnet like normal. i dont know if there is any power gain, but i didnt lose any torque, and it does sound great from the front of the car as you can hear the snorkle sucking through the grill. im thinking 0.47392543854 kW (0.26675467864 kWatw) at speed fronm the ram air effect. lol

This resonator on the snorkle itself. I'm assuming they cut this out of the later models? Because I just ran my hand around underneath (in the dark) ad didn't feel anything. Also did all magnas have the same size snorkle? Because when I was working on my sisters car (TH) te other day I swear it looked bigger than mine (TL). Perhaps it was just because her engine bay is more cluttered with the gas, but it did look bigger

yeah early models had 3 resonators, one under the snorkel and 2 just before the TB. Later ones, TJ onwards I think only had the one resonator

Like i said i just put my plan in aplication today, and it work perfect without cutting the air box! here some pictures!

First i buy a pod filter a bit smaler than the "normal" ones
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1812
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1815
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1809
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1811
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=1813

good effort there my pod was bigger i think thats why i had to cut mine
no matter what happens there is aways debates over a pannel or pod and enclosed or not
i just cant afford to pay fines all the time over stupied qld laws on exposed pods