hey im just curious that if i was to get King springs superlow front and rear (which is 45mm i think) aswell as 18x8 or19x8 wheels would there be much scrubing or will i need to roll the guards.

depends on the wheel/tyres you are running but the SL should be safe on the front on the back it might be a little closer. as a SL front and a L rear give a level appearance.

Straty,

Most of us here have Kings superlows on the front and lows on the rear, and in turn most have 19" wheels.

On 19" x 8" wheels with +36 offset (standard is +46) I first tried 245/40 19s and they rubbed badly on the rear arches.

I swapped the tyres for 245/35 19s (same wheels) and no more rubbing, the slightly lower profile (which reduced the overall diameter and hence height) made a big diference.

So I know that the combo of Kings lows, 19x8 +36 offset wheels & 245/35 tyres works nicely without needing to roll the rear guards. Well at least with Maxxis MA-Z1 Victra tyres, with other tyres it might change things.

Others have gone with 245/40 19s and found that they need to roll the rear guards. 245/40 19s might work with +46 offset, but on 19x8 wheels the rears might foul on the suspension somewhere, I'm not sure.

The bigger the + offset number the less the wheel 'sticks out' and the more it 'sticks in'.

The downside of the +36 offset is that the tyres only just sit inside the outside of the tops of the wheel arches, and a really anal Plod might decide one day to defect me on it. It also means that more gravel is kicked up by the tyres onto the lower bodywork.

The plus side is that is widens the stance of the car and it looks better (and maybe grips/handles better) than +46.

KJ.

+1 for 245/40/19 with low rears & scrubbing. Rolled the rear guards and still scrubbed.

I put Kings Superlows to the front & Lows to the rear (car will sit more equally this way) and am running 19x8.5 rims with 235/35/19 tyres. No scrubbing of tyres (still plenty of space), and no scraping of bumper on driveways, speed humps, etc.
Mine's a base model, but results should still be the same.
EDIT: Error there... meant to say 245 tyres, not 235.

mine are 245/35/20, no scrubbing.

mine are 245/35/20, no scrubbing.

Stormie,

I see by your profile you're running the usual combo of Kings superlows on the front and lows on the rear.

Do you know what offset your wheels are?

Seems like they must be a fair bit more than +36 (+46?) to avoid scrubbing the rears.

Also, how wide are your wheels?

(PS - I think mine are 8.5" wide not 8" like I said above).

KJ.

Stormie,

I see by your profile you're running the usual combo of Kings superlows on the front and lows on the rear.

Do you know what offset your wheels are?

Seems like they must be a fair bit more than +36 (+46?) to avoid scrubbing the rears.

Also, how wide are your wheels?

(PS - I think mine are 8.5" wide not 8" like I said above).

KJ.

dont remember offset off the top of my head, can get it for you later but rims are only 8"wide

does running a lower profile change the aceleration or speed of the car, or is it not enough to make a difference

does running a lower profile change the aceleration or speed of the car, or is it not enough to make a difference

You might be thinking of speedo reading wrong... but as long as the correct overall diameter is kept (ie the tyre shop will know which low profile matches which size rim correctly), there won't be any problems.
(Well... some one here mentioned a while back that even in doing this, there is a small difference, but only very small and not worth really worrying about).
My car over-reads; that is when the speedo shows 100 its really doing ~91 (confirmed with a GPS). It did this before (with standard 16s) and after (with new 19s), so I'm certainly not worried. At least it gives me a tiny buffer for creeping over the limit.

You might be thinking of speedo reading wrong... but as long as the correct overall diameter is kept (ie the tyre shop will know which low profile matches which size rim correctly), there won't be any problems.
(Well... some one here mentioned a while back that even in doing this, there is a small difference, but only very small and not worth really worrying about).
My car over-reads; that is when the speedo shows 100 its really doing ~91 (confirmed with a GPS). It did this before (with standard 16s) and after (with new 19s), so I'm certainly not worried. At least it gives me a tiny buffer for creeping over the limit.

The speedos are so inaccurate on the 380. You can only come to the conclusion that MMC wanted us to think the car was faster and more economical than it really is.

alright well with that in mind, can i get any opinions about wheels ive got 3 options at the moment.
1. 18"x8" Lenso Tenzo DC6 v2
http://www.tenzoracingsports.com/images/wheel_pics/wheel/dc6.version2_charcoal_grey.jpg

OR

2. 19"x8" Koya Slammer
http://www.koya.com.au/wheel/showimg.php?t=cat_detail&cat_id=13&srno=97

OR

3. 19"x8" ANZ Nitro
http://www.actiontyres.com.au/ProductImg/Wheels/ANZ/nitro.gif

I like the lenzos nice but simple

Option 2 for me (very close between 2 and 3 which are almost identical).

my favs are the lenso ones but i am worried that when i spend the money they will look too small on the car cause they are 18". The reason i like the Koya ones is because they are 19" and they are not a over the top design, but then cost of tyres comes into the equation.

They all look nice I reckon! With the +35 offset on those Koyas though you will have rubbing issues on the taller 40 profile tyres with super lows as the guys have mentioned.If you can stick close to the factory offset you can run the taller profile with superlows, i guess sometimes it comes down to the availability of the wheels your keen on but theres no way i would but 35's on my family car with the poor quality of roads around me.But hey thats just me!

purely on looks (didnt even look at off set details/sizes) id be going option 2 unless you are planning on spending 3000$ upgrading your brakes, in my opinion nothing looks more silly than wheels with few spokes showing off a tiny little rotor/caliper. option 2 has nice big wide spokes so should partially counteract this.

Im liking the Lenso's...keep looking around mate, there are heaps of rims out there with similar style that could be the size your looking for. It took us nearly 6 months to find a rim we were happy with....with both sets we have had actually.

Yeah thats a bit of a pet hate of mine too! A little Honda or lancer with those thin five spoke wheels in 19's and brakes no bigger than the hubs,or even worse,drums on the back!ARRRRG!

that is my all time et hate. brakes have to suit the wheel or it just looks stupid. although it is a long shot with some custom work done BF XR6 Turbo brakes could be fitted. they ar 320mm fronts and 328 rear, but money would be an issue for that.

What would tyres cost on average for 235/35/R19?

my 245.35.20 were 300 a corner for no names(roadstone?), but 20 is a is step cost wise from 19/18/17, dont want to imagine MCs pain!

What would tyres cost on average for 235/35/R19?

I think mine were around $275 for Falkens.
Already 20s appear cheaper (from Stormie's reply above) than when I was looking a few years ago.

I think mine were around $275 for Falkens.
Already 20s appear cheaper (from Stormie's reply above) than when I was looking a few years ago.

thats probably because 20s are starting top come stock on some of the HSVs etc arent they. where they def wouldnt have been a few years ago... only reason i can think of.

thats probably because 20s are starting top come stock on some of the HSVs etc arent they. where they def wouldnt have been a few years ago... only reason i can think of.

Yeah and 22s are very popular now, whereas they were virtually unheard of when I was shopping around. At that time, the prices were steady per the smaller sizes, but jumped up at 20s. It looks like that spike has flattened now, making 20s a more affordable package.

We were paying around the $800 per corner but as you just said Grubco 22"s are now becoming quite popular and the price had dropped down to a more respectful $550.

But anyway getting pack onto the topic at hand. Straty380 my only suggestion with running super-lows (personal experience) all round is that you will find that if you keep the original shocks you might find that the suspension will start to become sloppy because of the shocks being "overly" compressed all the time. Just my two-bob worth mate!

Crap this descision sucks

will the shocks need to upgraded drasticly or can they take the low springs for a bit.

Crap this descision sucks

will the shocks need to upgraded drasticly or can they take the low springs for a bit.

Mate they will be fine, I have done 47k on mine & they are still firm.

Crap this descision sucks

will the shocks need to upgraded drasticly or can they take the low springs for a bit.

They will take the lowered springs for a bit, when you lower it you may as well replace the shocks while there out.

Crap this descision sucks

will the shocks need to upgraded drasticly or can they take the low springs for a bit.

If you stick to normal Kings Lows and/or SuperLows, you'll be fine. My mechanic told me that only if I going any lower (that is, lower than my current SuperLows/Lows combination) will I need new shorter shocks.
Eventually the shocks will get wear out from the lowered ride, but not for a long time (or depending on where & how you drive). I did this with my previous Magna (but SuperLows all round) and never changed the shocks - was fine.

thats awesome. well i can get the lensos for 1600 fitted (tyres and everything). Just gonna check on the Koyas now.

thats awesome. well i can get the lensos for 1600 fitted (tyres and everything). Just gonna check on the Koyas now.

Just for your info, I put 18's on mine and regretted it from day 1. Less than a year later I sold them on ebay for a HUGE loss and bought 19's and couldnt be happier. The 18's were Koya and they were an excellent quality rim, just a pity they looked too small for the car.

I have also had lows/superlows on my car for close to 2 years with the standard shocks and havent had any problems.

exactly what i am thinking.

Hey just checking the stud pattern is 5x114.3 hey, same as falcons?

Same stud pattern, yes.

Different offset, but the rims will actually fit.

Haha quote is:-
4x Koya Slammer rims 19"x8" +35, with 4x Accelera 245/40/R19 tyres fitted to rims: $1750
Postage: $160
Total: $1910
all from www.f1wheelandtyre.com.au

Thats a pretty good deal, Bob Jane in Orange quoted me $2300 fitted and balanced.

The tyres should fit with the rear guards because the rim is 8" not 8.5".

Thats a pretty good price, they should look hot.

I have the exact same wheel size, offset & tyre size on mine and the rears rub on King Lows. Even with the guards rolled and a 15mm spacer in the rears to lift it up, they still rub if I have any adults in the back. Just thought I'd give you the heads up in case you go ahead with the lowering.

would 235/40/ fix that or will i need to go 235/35 profile

I have 245/35/19 with no probs, have no idea of rim offset but. I did have to bend the lip over ever so slightly on the rear as it would just touch on big bumps.

i will get the tyres change to 235/35/R19. Bob Jane checked out some site for me and apparently the difference between the standard 215/55/R17 tyres and 235/35/R19 is when the speedo says 100kms on standard 17's you will acctually be going 103kms on the 19's. so really nothing to fuss over at all.

Haha quote is:-
4x Koya Slammer rims 19"x8" +35, with 4x Accelera 245/40/R19 tyres fitted to rims: $1750
Postage: $160
Total: $1910
all from www.f1wheelandtyre.com.au

Thats a pretty good deal, Bob Jane in Orange quoted me $2300 fitted and balanced.

The tyres should fit with the rear guards because the rim is 8" not 8.5".

go down and ask for andrew an tell him that michael in the blue magna sent you down. he will look after you mate

go down and ask for andrew an tell him that michael in the blue magna sent you down. he will look after you mate

haha we spoke to tim he was helpful

helpful yes but $400 more expensive.

hey guys, found King Springs Superlow fronts on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280437115538&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1695wt_939.

Just checking before I buy them if everything looks ok? They seem pretty cheap?

hey guys, found King Springs Superlow fronts on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280437115538&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1695wt_939.

Just checking before I buy them if everything looks ok? They seem pretty cheap?

Looks like the right part number to me, a bargain at around half price incl postage.

KJ.

yeah i thinking of getting the lows for the front at 70 bucks from the same guy