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Harro
07-12-2009, 04:48 PM
Ok, so i've got my little TR PRoject.

I wanted to open a thread about discussing the ways i can go about making this happen

I want to do this as cheap as possible and i want to do as much work as possible myself.

So what do you think is the best choice.... CUstom made kit?

Can the gear off a Sigma Turbo be used?

Mr_Roberto
07-12-2009, 05:04 PM
Ben (86_elite) would be a good person to talk to as he has a turbo TR, but it's not driveable atm

pandaTR
07-12-2009, 05:12 PM
talk to tuff tr

[TUFFTR]
07-12-2009, 06:08 PM
talk to tuff tr

Actually....86_Elite is more knowledgeable on the topic as this refers to 4cyl stuff. I only know stuff about V6's.

MGNTZM
07-12-2009, 06:46 PM
Or ViP.

*Edit* - Tuffer TR? Somones aiming high!

Sigmaproject
07-12-2009, 06:51 PM
You can use a Sigma Turbo exhaust Manifold, if you can find one. Most of the good modified Sigma's use Magna EFI inlet manifolds, so you are half way there.
This guy makes exhaust manifolds for the Sigma/ Scorpion owners, and does a good job..http://www.sigma-galant.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=2388
You can even leave your compression ratio alone as long as you go for a low boost. Otherwise it is low comp pistons and O rings.
My Sigma was Turboed around 2003 and hasnt missed a beat. Last forever if you dont drive like a moron.

Here is something to give you a little incentive

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7113/turbomagnamanifold.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/turbomagnamanifold.jpg/)

Harro
07-12-2009, 07:22 PM
You can use a Sigma Turbo exhaust Manifold, if you can find one. Most of the good modified Sigma's use Magna EFI inlet manifolds, so you are half way there.
This guy makes exhaust manifolds for the Sigma/ Scorpion owners, and does a good job..http://www.sigma-galant.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=2388
You can even leave your compression ratio alone as long as you go for a low boost. Otherwise it is low comp pistons and O rings.
My Sigma was Turboed around 2003 and hasnt missed a beat. Last forever if you dont drive like a moron.

Here is something to give you a little incentive

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7113/turbomagnamanifold.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/turbomagnamanifold.jpg/)

Hey mate. looks the goods. any other pics or info on what gear you've used would be great

only aiming for 7psi atm so low boost to begin

[TUFFTR]
07-12-2009, 07:32 PM
Harro....got an intercooler here FS if your keen

Harro
07-12-2009, 07:35 PM
;1171331']Harro....got an intercooler here FS if your keen

how big is it? Am going to want to try to keep this sleeper styles so was thinking Top Mount

86_Elite
07-12-2009, 11:49 PM
If your keen you can buy my TR off me, its street legal, needs a bit of TLC, PM if keen, check profile for details, lots of work done plus now has coilovers. looking for around 6 for it as is..... but as for questions and info, what would you like to know? the sigma turbo manifolds were helped by HKS as apart of early 80s thing mitsi thing trying to come up with a turbo engine, they ended up scrapping and building the 4G63 as we know today. but there was 12 2.6 DOHC engines built. A member on here was gonna make up some DOHC heads but wasnt enough interest to go through. Just lemme know what kinda path you wanna take with this, like how extreme, ive built my TR to handle around 300hp at the wheels around 1 bar boost, but potentially up to around 20psi before my GT28 max's out.

www.sigma-galant.com is a heads up www.g54b.com are some good sites to start with the 2.6 turbo setup. :)

Harro
08-12-2009, 03:53 AM
If your keen you can buy my TR off me, its street legal, needs a bit of TLC, PM if keen, check profile for details, lots of work done plus now has coilovers. looking for around 6 for it as is..... but as for questions and info, what would you like to know? the sigma turbo manifolds were helped by HKS as apart of early 80s thing mitsi thing trying to come up with a turbo engine, they ended up scrapping and building the 4G63 as we know today. but there was 12 2.6 DOHC engines built. A member on here was gonna make up some DOHC heads but wasnt enough interest to go through. Just lemme know what kinda path you wanna take with this, like how extreme, ive built my TR to handle around 300hp at the wheels around 1 bar boost, but potentially up to around 20psi before my GT28 max's out.

www.sigma-galant.com is a heads up www.g54b.com are some good sites to start with the 2.6 turbo setup. :)

hey mate. Not lookin to buy a complete car as building it will be %50 of the fun for me.

First off i'd like to run at about 7 psi, on as many stock internals as i can. then maybe aim for more. the idea is not to have a record breaker.

Sigmaproject
08-12-2009, 04:25 AM
The pic I put up in a previous post is not my car unfortunately. It is a pic of some lucky Magna owner that I got off the net.

But there are plenty of Sigma owners getting better than 200 rwkw using stock internals, stock turbo exhaust and Magna inlets.

Throttle body, Injectors and ECU are all upgraded.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/752/resized640x480sigmaturb.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/resized640x480sigmaturb.jpg/)

86_Elite
08-12-2009, 12:38 PM
hey mate. Not lookin to buy a complete car as building it will be %50 of the fun for me.

First off i'd like to run at about 7 psi, on as many stock internals as i can. then maybe aim for more. the idea is not to have a record breaker.


Just so you know, im running stock TS pistons and have spiked around 15psi through this engine with no dramas, the key is the tuning mate. the 2.6 has forged rods and crank from factory so getting these polished up is a good help, I also had them heat treated and had the whole engine blue printed and o-ring'd.

You wanna find your self a mitsubishi canter oil pump, the 2.6 was used in the trucks before sigmas and came without harmonic balancers, they also run a bigger cog which also lowers your oil pressure a bit. The other thing with the harmonic balancers is they run at twice the RPM of the engine so if your doing 6,000rpm changes your oil is getting turned at 12,000rpm which can cause it to break down and air rate too. These cost about the same as a standard magna oil pump (around $550) and will benifit you heaps.

Ive also had custom valve retainers made up for the cylinder head, this seemed to help an issue I had with a miss fire which was caused by the extra chamber pressure causing the valves to offseat and make the car missfire.

And as for building the car yourself. Kiss around 10,000 bucks goodbye, im well into 30,000 with this car and ive had to build this car from the start and its still not finished. The reason I am offering you my car is you can still build your car just use my parts mate. the cylinder head needs to come off as I thk I might have cracked my casting as im leaking oil from my inlet manifold. Hence the TLC issue

yann89
11-12-2009, 01:48 PM
well from memory the turbo manifolds from a Sigma wont work because the Sigma used ASTRON not ASTRON II which i'm told is different. Also, all of the Sigma Turbo models were 2.0L.

RXCORP
07-01-2010, 07:59 AM
All 2.6 exhaust manifolds are the same. Sigma turbo manifold is a bolt on.. Its the intakes that change