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Mecha-wombat
08-12-2009, 12:41 AM
I never used to have a car wash routine nor did I really care about a shiny car because well the Corolla and Echo were colours you can leave dirty for a while and still looked clean so I never cared

Then my Molten Red GT comes along and I decide its time to learn how to properly maintain my paintwork

now there are thousands of product out there and I have used alot of different things via things like samples, gifts, unwanted stuff ETC but I have settled on PRIMA (its around the same price point as Megs and Autoglym but just so much nicer IMPO
but the corolla gets Autoglym and anything else round the house

If you can, buy products from detailing specialist retailer rather than from automotive stores they have the knowledge to help you its what they DO

OR ASK CYBERMONKEY (HIS CAR IS AMAZING and its BLACK)He wont be back til Jan 2010

Always wash and dry in shade with a car that is cool to the touch. Washing a car with hot paint will usually result in streaks as the water / shampoo dries before you can remove all of it from your car.

Rinsing your vehicle is the first step
Washing comes next and it is often done incorrectly, ruining the painted surface.
The first step to correct washing, is to ensure your mitt is always kept clean of dirt and grit.I use two buckets, one bucket for your soap and water mixture, and another bucket containing clean water. The vehicle is washed panel by panel with constant rinsing of the mitt in the clean water,
Everything for my cars is colour coded too so I dont mess up the paint

you need to wash the panels in a set order from cleanest to dirtiest. This usually starts with the roof of the vehicle and ends with the lower sides of the vehicle. A common order would be roof, bonnet, boot lid, sides upper, front bumper, rear bumper, sides lower. This order of washing, coupled with the two bucket method will make it easier to not get swirl marks or damage your paint

When washing is complete remove the nozzle from the hose and “sheet” the water over the panels. To do this, you run the hose at low pressure trying to reduce any splashing and coating the panel with the water. The surface tension of the water will allow maximum run-off leaving minimal water beads behind, minimising contact with the surface while drying.
I never use to do this but it by far is the best method to techinically dry the car

This makes drying your car a 5 minute wipe down vs a 30min waste of time. I only use Microfibre to dry my car as well as to apply polish and buffing. I have over 10 different styles of MF for differnt jobs and each is colour coded (3M love me LOL)I have round 25 MF cloths all up not including the household cleaning ones

I use 2 different washs
Prima Mystique
Meguires Hyper wash

both of these are great for cleaning the surface but not stripping glazes etc

I do this weekly early morning tuesday straight after work I will also apply if I feel it needs it Prima Slick or Hydro for extra gloss top up

This will take me about 1hr which is nothing

If I am doing my seasonal paint protection I start with the wash and dry and then Clay Bar the car

I am totally addicted to Clay after doing it on my Corolla and feeling the difference before and after. if you use a plastic shopping bag run your hand over your paint and if you notice how it feels like sandpaper then you should CLAY your car.

I am going to let the experts tell you how to do this part from WAXIT.COM.AU



1. Work indoors or in the shade on a cold paint surface.

2. Wash and dry your car prior to starting claying.

3. Using a plastic shopping bag run your hand over your paint and notice how it feels like sandpaper.


4. If you have chosen one of the larger clay bars, cut it into 3 or 4 pieces and shape one of these into a flat round disk shape.

5. Spray the area you wish to clean with Clay Lubricant to lubricate it and then rub the clay back and forth until you feel the roughness diminish, wipe off the residual spray with a Microfibre Towel and move onto the next area. I typically divide a roof or bonnet into four sections.


6. Put the plastic bag back on and feel the difference, simply amazing.

7. Make you sure you use enough lubricant, do not scrimp as you could scratch your car.

8. Check the surface of the clay bar for contaminants constantly and knead it back into itself so your are always using a clean part of the clay.

9. If you drop the clay, throw it away, one small piece of dirt could scratch your paint very badly.

10. You can usually get 4 cars to one bar, however an entire clay bar on one car due to it being very badly covered in industrial fallout is not unheard of.

11. Wash the car to remove any clay or lubricant residue.

When you have done the entire car it should feel like glass. One point to remember though, a clay bar will not remove scratches or swirl marks for these paint imperfections you will need a dedicated swirl remover.

Extra Tips to ensure a successful claying job.

1. Dry any lube off the clay, place in the container provided with a LIGHT spray of lube and leave. I have clay which is a couple of years old and still usable. Never has any clay gone hard or turned into a soggy mess. Recently I left some clay stuck to the side of shelf for 3 months, pulled it off the shelf, kneaded it into shape and used it without any problems.

2. Usage - lightly spray the area to be clayed ensuring an even coverage then move the clay back an forth over the area using enough pressure to hold the clay against the panel...no more.


Once you have done that section wipe the surface of the clay onto the heel of your left hand (assuming you are using the clay in your right hand) this will remove any surface contaminants and EXCESS lube.


Visually check the clay surface for grit, clean out as required.

If you wipe off the excess lube and dry the clay prior to folding and re-shaping your clay will last a lot longer.

Most people I have watched roll the wet clay into a ball and then flatten it, doing this a few times it starts to get soaked in lube and falls apart. Imagine the poly clay is real dirt clay...too much water and it falls apart.

3. I have to say I never had clay break down on me, but I am very careful about how much lube I use............enough to allow the clay to glide over the paint but not so much as it is dripping on the ground. The average bottle would do about 6 average cars.

4. Regardless of what you use as a lubricant too much of will break down the clay.

5.The use of soapy water is often promoted as a suitable lubricant, the problem with this is that if a very strong mix of a cheap wash soap is used it will break down the clay and can effect the rubbers etc on the the car if done repeatedly.

Using the recommend lubricant removes any chance of incompatibility and therefore when used in the correct amount will result in a better job.


I also clayed the exterior windows of my corolla water beads right off after that (RainX does help though)


Then you need to protect the fresh paintwork this is where you would polish the car.
I prefer a glaze again a Prima product - Prima Amigo to preclean than EPIC and finish with a spray of SLICK

(The Corolla gets Autoglym Super Resin Polish and then a coat of Armour all Wax and Polish for the final coat )

I follow the same pattern as washing top to bottom

This takes me at least 6 hrs sometimes more depending on how long I leave the glazes (I do multiple coats) on to cure but afterwards it is something sweet to look at like a big shiny boiled lolly

Slick just adds to the final gloss and repels DUST

windows get wiped doen with a you guessed it a MF cloth

Wheels I clean seperate I use left over wash and a colour coded MF cloth and interior is done when it needs it (and if you have a young-un its daily LOL)

I apply just a cheap tyre dressing (its tyres for crying out loud)

The engine bay gets a wipe down with a damp MF cloth (again colour coded for the engine bay)

I have a bevvy and sit back and smile


I have nothing but praise for both Waxit.com.au and for ZAS.com.au as all the info I learned came from those two sites

Joel at ZAS is really great and is happy to answer any questions


I hope this helps someone

Grubco
09-12-2009, 03:32 PM
Good write up. Wow, some real detail in there. Unfortunately I'm far too lazy for all that (maybe back when I was teenager I could put in all that effort). I will check out the products you've mentioned though, thanks.

GT-Pete
09-12-2009, 04:48 PM
Great write up Mecha, time for a detailing day :clap:

RINGA///ART
09-12-2009, 05:42 PM
I still think we need some sort of car care / detailing section to the forums..

Nice write up there mate..

I love detailing, it's the reason why I do it for a living.

Nothing better than sitting back admiring a nice clean car. Nothing worse than it raining thar or the next day after you've done it!!

Any pics?

Blackstar
09-12-2009, 05:52 PM
Thanks for the tips MW.

I find washing the molten red GT that I also own, is a lot easier, if done thouroughly the once, then once a week normally.

GT-Pete
09-12-2009, 06:26 PM
I still think we need some sort of car care / detailing section to the forums..

:stoopid:

Mecha-wombat
10-12-2009, 01:53 AM
I still think we need some sort of car care / detailing section to the forums..

Nice write up there mate..

I love detailing, it's the reason why I do it for a living.

Nothing better than sitting back admiring a nice clean car. Nothing worse than it raining thar or the next day after you've done it!!

Any pics?


Yeah I love detailing too

definitely need a detailing section

Mecha-wombat
13-12-2009, 11:39 PM
I made detailing a big thing for me as I am hopeless on the tools and my Mrs said I had to look after my car unlike the previous car

@ Grubco

6 hrs is once a season IE 3 months a wash and top up may take all of 1hr usually round 30mins (cause it dont get that dirty) and it is glaze as you dry

Also the 6hrs includes cure time

I have being know to let the glaze to cure overnight and I do multiple coats so I can spend more time getting hit up the arse by VW owners then detailing my cars (I cry when I see my car ATM)

Mecha-wombat
27-12-2009, 07:23 PM
So got some more detailing gear for xmas

I will get some pics up of the cars with a full detail this week

Looks so shiny ATM just need to get rid of some swirl marks that I can see (but others cant???)

RINGA///ART
27-12-2009, 07:36 PM
Hehehe.. Don't worry mate, I'd be able to spot them... you're not completely insane like everyone would think you are..

I got another big box of Supplies delivered on Christmas Eve. Most for clients unfortunately. Am loving the results im getting from P21s100... 100% Pure Brazilian Grade Carnauba Wax.. First tub I've bought of it - up to layer 3 on the RColt now, might get another one on if I can find some energy on my holidays..

What gear did you get for xmas?

Mecha-wombat
27-12-2009, 08:05 PM
Just got refills of all my Prima gear

mystique
hydro
amigo
slick
clarity
banana gloss wax (it smells like BANANAS)
epic
Wheel armour
plus I got AUTO GYLM gear

bodywash shampoo
super resin polish
leather cleaner
leather nourish
super auto shine
rubber and vinyl cleaner
wheel cleaner
Heap of MF cloths
plus some meguaires Hyper wash and pre wax cleaner

So a far bit of stuff

Mecha-wombat
04-10-2010, 11:17 PM
Being using OAKWOOD Leather nourisher on my leather in the GT

Oh this stuff is so nice and it is Aussie made and owned

Eucalyptus, Emu oil and tea tree

HMMMMM smells alright in the GT
now it needs a bloody vac when it stops raining

Blackstar
05-10-2010, 06:41 AM
I find wiping down with a chamois cloth is very quick with a great result for both inside and out.

But it has to be a good quality one, not the cheap supermarket ones.

TreeAdeyMan
05-10-2010, 07:45 AM
I find wiping down with a chamois cloth is very quick with a great result for both inside and out.

But it has to be a good quality one, not the cheap supermarket ones.

Agreed, I've tried all sorts of alternatives over the years but for most uses nothing beats a good quality genuine chamois.

chrisv
05-10-2010, 08:32 AM
Agreed, I've tried all sorts of alternatives over the years but for most uses nothing beats a good quality genuine chamois.

I've recently taken to use a waffle towelling drying cloth.
Absolutely brilliant in my opinion. Soaks water like you wouldnt believe and no lint residue.
Good for inside and out and you can chuck it in the washer. Never scratches.
Just bought a second 'just for my rims'

Mecha-wombat
05-10-2010, 11:41 AM
Yep waffle weave MF cloths are AWESOME bit of kit over a traditional chamois