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just what i need to hear.....

just what i need to hear.....

Don't worry, as someone has already commented this is the first and only serious mechanical failure on a 380 that any of us have heard of.

KJ.

Crankshaft is also buggered....so motor is a write off except the heads....45,768k's for anyone interested/worried.

Car is a S3/GT VIN 26075 built around may 2007.

Happy motoring...:)

Rest In Peace, young fighter. YOUR DEATH SHALL BE AVENGED!



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Poor luck dude, 6G's are tough beasts, I guess yours just couldn't make it

hmmmmm my car does a cold start rattle from time to time... hmmmm.....

Let us know how the warranty claim goes.

Also, have you had the car since new?

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As good as new then :)

What's your driving style like? Hard and fast or easy-does-it?

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Sorry to hear what oil were you using???

What mods have you done to the car???

great. new i shoulda done the rods and bearings while the engine was apart.

Im guessing the rattle wasn't from the common lifters issue yea?

I've heard that this same thing happened to one of the 380/Galant guys in the US also.

Hard and fast and take no prisoners.

Sounds like my sex life... :hmm:

That sucks mate.. That should be all good with the Mitsu Warranty.. You went to Mitsi previously regarding the issue right?

SuFz :ninja:

Don't worry, as someone has already commented this is the first and only serious mechanical failure on a 380 that any of us have heard of.

KJ.

No, mine has been diagnosed with the #2 piston problem, MMAL will cover it under warranty, but they keep putting me off to get it done, can't get it done until Feb now.

I strongly recommend anyone who is having the rattle on cold problem go to a dealer tomorrow and demand (nicley as you can) that it gets fixed.

JB5

Well that sounds like 3 engines gone then. I'm assuming the 3.8 Galant engines are also imported in a crate from Japan?

No, mine has been diagnosed with the #2 piston problem, MMAL will cover it under warranty, but they keep putting me off to get it done, can't get it done until Feb now.

I strongly recommend anyone who is having the rattle on cold problem go to a dealer tomorrow and demand (nicley as you can) that it gets fixed.

JB5

Dont wanna burst your bubble buddy but you cant go into a dealer and say "mate, the engine rattles when cold, I want the whole motor replaced"
Doesnt work like that...

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disapointing :(

;1175084']Dont wanna burst your bubble buddy but you cant go into a dealer and say "mate, the engine rattles when cold, I want the whole motor replaced"
Doesnt work like that...

Well, after being through the whole process, it does happen to work like that. You just have to go through their procedure first. Which is:

1/ Book job in for to check. They will want it overnight so they can start it cold first thing in the morning.
2/ They will hear the fault, and either diagnose it "correctly", or in my case "incorrectly". It didn't fix the problem (obviously) but I got a new camshaft fitted under warranty. I don't blame them for this, like many other mechanical faults there can be multiple causes.
3/ If not fixed, book the car in again. This time, they'll want to re-build the engine, to do that they'll need approval from MMAL. That means that the MMAL dealer rep will have to come and listen to the car cold. He only comes to the dealership every two/three weeks or so so you'll need to book in, again with an overnight stay, and he'll listen to the fault. He will then either authorise a rebuild or not. In my case, he did, however due to Christmas/New Year breaks, I can't get it done until February 2010. I hope it lasts. And they claim the car will be off the road 3-6 weeks (depending on etc etc).

The process has so far taken me two months of "work", with at least another 6-8 weeks before the car goes into the shop, and another 3-6 weeks before I get it back - hopefully with the problem fixed.

Again, I strongly advise those of you with rattles to get in looked at ASAP, at the very least you'll start the ball rolling, even if it will take 3-5 months to sort. And the more problems of this type that MMAL get reported, the easier it will be for them to recognise there is a problem, and maybe the process will be that much quicker.

JB5

Oh deary sorry to hear the motor has done its dash...Its so hard to decipher if ticking noises in the 380 motor are serious or not...it seems everything on the motor has a different noticeable tick lol. Lets hope this does not happen to any other 380's around here

both of the cars are from Victoria very strange !!!

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My brother also has a VRX with the noise...and its got 40000k's on the clock...

Mine has always been tappety in the morning and is slightly tappety when warm ever since I bought it (26,000km)....its now up to 55,000km and all of those kays lets face it were "enthusiastic" driving. Does this tap vary hugely from the other tap from the lifters or injectors?

Crankshaft is also buggered....so motor is a write off except the heads....45,768k's for anyone interested/worried.

so... are you keeping the old heads? I might have a use for them if you are and are interested in selling them.

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I dont have any noise but I do use nulon engine treatment with everychange too

Concur with Jim Beamer 5. Spoke to a guy at work today about this and he rang a mate who's a Mitsubishi mechanic. The feedback indicated no bottom end problems noted to date. Problems have been noticed with wear in some piston gudgeon pin holes which results in a slight knocking sound till the engine warms up.

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That's good news mate, now you need to try to get that LSD to fit while she is in pieces!

Awsome result.... hope this one give's you more than just its scrap metal value.... lol

Oh...yes the Mitsubishi assessor knew it had a few performance "enhancements" fitted....


Hard to miss a blower tho?

Or did you take off the Blower before taking it back to Mitsubishi?

Actually this backs up what my dealer told me. They will honour the engine warranty as long as the mods don't contribute to any claim.

Hard to miss a blower tho?

Or did you take off the Blower before taking it back to Mitsubishi?

I believe he said factory blower... might be wrong.. congrats on new engine :)

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I dont have any noise but I do use nulon engine treatment with everychange too

Nulon is your best insurance policy for this. Remember that they ran a car with nulon in from syd to mel with no oil in it and pulled it down with very little wear to show.

Nulon is your best insurance policy for this. Remember that they ran a car with nulon in from syd to mel with no oil in it and pulled it down with very little wear to show.

It's a miracle! IF it were true! Want to test that in your car? lol

I take it the car that ran from Sydney to Melbourne had a sump full of nulon.

thats probably what did the bearings.... it was all clogged up with tiny moly pieces from nulon :P which nulon oil additive product did you put in your oil every change?

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So guess who now has a Ticking engine Hot or cold

Mitsi will be looking at it as soon as there is a spot available

Well just got the word that my 6g75 engine will be replaced with a brand new one at no cost to me whatsoever.
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Interest question; does this mean you can legally reset your odometer to zero??

Regards, Tony

Interest question; does this mean you can legally reset your odometer to zero??

Regards, Tony

no you cant mate.. the rest of the car has still done the km's..

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So guess who now has a Ticking engine Hot or cold

Mitsi will be looking at it as soon as there is a spot available

Good luck Wom, don't take no prisoners. Ours has been gone for almost two weeks, still no word on how long it will be. I keep remembering to call them at like 6pm (obviously no good), new job and the workload's a killer. Company car at least, so there's no mad rush to get it back............

I would do it if i could get away with it, :)

but the ECU keeps a log of kilometres, VIN number, top speed, max rpm etc etc in its memory I am told.

GULP! The ECU does that?

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yep, it's one of the ways they assess warranty.

Well that is interesting then. Can't say I have ever gone over 130 max so it would be interesting to see how the poor thing was treated before I bought it...hope it doesnt show 200+ haha.

just say it went on a dyno to assess a problem with the driveline

just say it went on a dyno to assess a problem with the driveline

Good call Cybermonkey..ill keep that one mind :woot:

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Well...if it registers 200kmh - so what?
I'd be more concerned re redline visits.

I assume you are talking to me?

I don't use any oil additives, I just use whatever Mitsubishi put in during their service.

(better that way me thinks, nothing for them to blame me for...) :happy:

It could be the engine oil that cause the bearing failure. A blown engine would normally takes a slightly thicker oil which provide enough oil pressure during high heat/boost, a top quality engine oil like Redline or Amsoil with high doses of anti-wear additives would be ideal.

Well...if it registers 200kmh - so what?

exactly , even redline, why does it matter ?
they build the car to go that fast and rev that high , they have to warrant the product...if it can't go over 160km/h without doing damage , where is the factory fitted speed limiter..
there is a rev limiter there for a reason, they built the engine and set the limiter to where it is , if it blows up at 7000rpm it's still a warranty claim , as it was designed to rev to the limiter and stay in one piece..

exactly , even redline, why does it matter ?
they build the car to go that fast and rev that high , they have to warrant the product...if it can't go over 160km/h without doing damage , where is the factory fitted speed limiter..
there is a rev limiter there for a reason, they built the engine and set the limiter to where it is , if it blows up at 7000rpm it's still a warranty claim , as it was designed to rev to the limiter and stay in one piece..

All very good points. Not saying I have ever attempted land speed records, I was just curious to know if anybody had before I bought it :hmm:....the revs my car has done is another story all together. Spirited driving= revs

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I am quite confident it was due to detonation....

If that was the case I am surprised it was covered by warranty since you had a non stock blower install (LPG)

I agree, so what...but....

Unless you are holding it in third ...and holding it at redline for longer than an auto trans would, which would be at 160 km/h on the speedo...

Then it rings alarm bells.

Yep, my point exactly. Going past the redline consistently would be bad for warranty. Speed registered would not.

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had mine looked at today for a misfire issue. apparently my car has a reading of 255km/h, 10,000rpm and a collant temp reading of 250 degrees. wtf. top speed of a 380 is 210km/h (can confirm this), 6,200 rpm rev limiter and if it had coolant temp of 250 degrees id have a cooked motor.

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Thats good to hear all is well. Did they service the head before replacing the gasket?

talk abbout saving a dollar... old oil pump? its had crap go through it. FFS!!!

Nice

a sort of new engine does it mean you have to reset the service intervals

like going back after 100kms ETC

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Dunno what they did..I just got the keys and told to come back in 1500 k's for an oil change.

As for the service intervals I wasn't told anything special.

The heads have a new gasket, I know that...LOL

It definitely feels like a new car again.

under the bonnet is a lot of stuff, i would hate to have to do it all...pipes everywhere inc LPG and blower etc.

Did Mitsubishi refit the blower? I thought you said TMR removed it before you took it in for warranty or did TMR rebuild it?

talk abbout saving a dollar... old oil pump? its had crap go through it. FFS!!!

surely the filter would have caught anything in the pick-up?

I can tell you know from owning a spun bearing motor the crap goes everywhere. Why they didnt flush the heads is beyond me.

its still under warranty.... if they don't do a good and proper job, they'll be seeing the car again..

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I would definitely be worried about them using a 2nd hand oil pump. Thats just ridiculous in an engine that would have shards of small metal fragments everywhere through it.

Can't say that I think reusing the oil pump is a good idea at all.

Glad to hear you have your wheels back on the road though :D

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Well regardless of anything.. as long as there's no problems.. sounds to me like Mitsubishi did a cracking job and should be congratulated.

Well regardless of anything.. as long as there's no problems.. sounds to me like Mitsubishi did a cracking job and should be congratulated.

:stoopid:


I was always a bit dubious when my dealer said I'd still have a normal warranty after mods, this bears it out.

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I was always a bit dubious when my dealer said I'd still have a normal warranty after mods, this bears it out.

Same here......I used to think they may knock me back on a engine warranty claim because I had the bigger intake & lower resonator mod. However if they are replacing engines that are supercharged, I never had anything to worry about!!

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As a precaution that i don't have any long term "issues" I am popping in to SKR while in Adelaide for the Clipsal next week.
An independent opinion by a pro is always worth a look.oh really, don't happen to fancy joining us for our regular fortnightly meet on the Wed night do you?? :) 'what's that daddy? that my boy is a supercharged 380, now step back so dad can get a good look at it' lol

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