Anyone used this? Any good?
Mate of mine emptied a bottle in to a tankful and claims his Lexus became a rocket.... well almost :roflwtf:

Read a few reviews, seems to work, car has done 55,500k now so maybe has some carbon build up on the valves, so I just went & bought a bottle & chucked it in. Then again I've been using Shell V-Power for the last 30,000k so maybe little or no gunk in the fuel system or on the valves etc, and I may have wasted $16. Worth a try though for $16.

Will report back how it goes.

KJ.

Yet another thread about throttle in a bottle

This stuff will generally remove moisture from your fuel system but no matter what they claim, the car will not go like a rocket when put in, will not clean the carbon off the injectors and you are better off going to buy a pizza with your money, at least you will not be hungry afterwards and will enjoy it more

If you want to clean injectors, you need to use either proper onboard cleaner or better still ultra sonic clean. Carbon does not just wash off contry to popular belief

Yet another thread about throttle in a bottle

This stuff will generally remove moisture from your fuel system but no matter what they claim, the car will not go like a rocket when put in, will not clean the carbon off the injectors and you are better off going to buy a pizza with your money, at least you will not be hungry afterwards and will enjoy it more

If you want to clean injectors, you need to use either proper onboard cleaner or better still ultra sonic clean. Carbon does not just wash off contry to popular belief

Mal,

I wasn't concerned about cleaning the injectors or the fuel system, both seem A OK to me, but I have had issues in the past with build up of carbon deposits on the valves (TM & TE Magnas), so I thought 'why not give it a go'? (and I was bored at the time and needed something to do).

I don't expect any transformation from slug to rocket (it's already a bit of a rocket), and if there are any significant benefits they most likely will appy to an older motor and/or one that hasn't been looked after all that well.

So my only question is does/can this stuff really remove carbon build up from valves, or are the claims by Caltex BS?

KJ.

the only way we do inj cleaning is by ultrasonic. the mechanics nextdoor to us put a bottle through a range rover, next day it was back coz all the gunk in the tank went through the injectors.

Yet another thread about throttle in a bottle

This stuff will generally remove moisture from your fuel system but no matter what they claim, the car will not go like a rocket when put in, will not clean the carbon off the injectors and you are better off going to buy a pizza with your money, at least you will not be hungry afterwards and will enjoy it more

If you want to clean injectors, you need to use either proper onboard cleaner or better still ultra sonic clean. Carbon does not just wash off contry to popular belief

Mal so it is only good if your running e10 as it seem to get alot of water ingress in the fuel??


With the use of PUPL ie ultimate V-power do the cleaners just remove the varnish deposits but not the carbon??

Also when should you get the injectors cleaned ultrasonically ??

Those fuels do not clean anything and all servo fuel will have some water in the tanks, they often top up the tanks with water to lift the fuel level back up to the pick up when low in fuel

There are 2 sorts, onboard (has nothing to do with a bottle in the tank, is a very volotile system that will clean near as good as Ultra Sonic, have seen before and after, only downside is you can not check flow, upside is will clean anything past the injector ie valves)

The bottle rubbish WILL NOT clean valves, you can not get anything near volotile enough in a simple screw off lid bottle that will be safe to handle. The onboard systems will actually self ignite when introduced to air

Thanks MM

the onboard is it done by a specialist or can your mechanic do it??

My corolla has had issues in the past and I suspect the vavles need a clean

The Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for this stuff is here: http://www.msdsonline.com.au/msds/msdsview.asp?SynonymCode=ACPHE00&msds_format=00&in_langcode=&uselogo=TRUE

Which means the thread title is a bit misleading, there is no MSDS in the product name.

The main ingredients are heavy hydrotreated naphtha 60-100% and light aromatic solvent naphtha 0-10%.

The best description I could find for naphtha is on this page: http://www.icis.com/StaticPages/Naphtha_Solvent.htm

"Naphtha is a light product of crude oil refining mostly used as either feedstock for petrochemical cracking or gasoline reforming and blending. With the development in technologies, naphtha can also be produced from condensate splitting and gas-to-liquid processing.

In general, there are two main classes of naphtha – paraffinic naphtha and heavy naphtha. Paraffinic naphtha is rich in olefins and is suitable for olefin/polyolefin production. Heavy naphtha is mainly used for aromatic production and gasoline reforming. There are three main grades for paraffinic naphtha, i.e. light grade naphtha, full-range grade and open-spec grade.

SOLVENT NAPHTHA LIGHT

Light solvent naphtha of good quality is used in the solvents market and sometimes the blending market.

Naphtha (N+A) finds its primary use in the US as a blending component of gasoline due to its high octane rating. Paraffinic naphtha is used as a feedstock in the petrochemical industry (i.e. ethylene)."

I'm guessing that naphtha is a common additive in high octone (98+ RON) petrol, and it is possible that all this stuff really does is the same as adding a bottle of octane booster to your tank.

KJ.

Firstly, my apologies for creating such new post for this chemical (Techron). But to my defence I could not find any details regarding this particular substance on AMC Forum, hence my decision for the fresh post.
This has obviously created some anxiety and frustration with some Members, hence I suggest to close/delete the post. After all, there are more important matters to be concerned about, like drought, pollution, terrorism, obesity etc.

But to add few comments.
Caltex it self recommends not to use this chemical too frequently without oil change. Hmm, nice, it kills the properties in the lubricant, yauchh. And I just changed new semis in.
Also, read from another Forum, that such chemical, among many similar products, might harm oxygen sensors and catalytic converters. Although, I haven’t read any conclusive scientific evidence to support such claims. Considering Caltex’s claim re engine lubricant, I can see it could be an issue however.
Continuing on the deposits (or lack of) on my engine valves and lower inlet ports, I can state that all valve seats are clean and so are the ports opposite and below the injectors. It is obvious the fuel I have been using (Shell V Power mostly) does something positive in that sense.

What comes to “chemicals in bottles” being corrosive, we need to take note that a given (not Techron) substance might corrode one material but not the other. Consider a very simple, banal trivial test: smudge a paint brush in to acrylic paint, then try to wash it in for example gasoline (benzine, automotive fuel). It doesn’t clean up. Wash it in plain water and it will clean ok. And water is considered safe! Cleans better than gasoline!
So called carburettor cleaners dissolve fuel deposits and other quite well and they are dispersed via plastic nozzle from a spray can – the nozzle doesn’t melt while in use.
I am not, repeat not, going to elaborate on various “plastic” materials’ abilities to handle various chemicals, it would just get quite ridiculous in my opinion. One would assume some large corporations and also Governments protect us from such dangerous combinations – aahh, what am I saying! We are all poisoned by lack of Gov monitoring on pollutants hahah. Nice try anyway.

Also, the comments about the Lexus going like a rocket, was intended as a sarcastic joke. I readily assumed that everybody would understand Lexus’ don’t use rocket engines. Well, generally, not on the roads anyway. So, sorry about the confusion.

And I do agree, that even Domino Hut’s Pizza Brothers products would taste better than Techron. Though, I haven’t actually tried that my self. Techron, that is.

So there. Have a good day everybody! And don’t drink Techron – not everything in a bottle is meant for human consumption! Drink Vodka (Finlandia preferably) instead. But not while or when intending to drive. :beer: