View Full Version : Fog light install in TS SE (Help anyone)
Dougal
17-01-2010, 07:37 AM
Hi All,
This is my first post as i am new to this forum.
I am needing help with installation of fog lights to my Magna TS SE if anyones had any experience doing so.
I am a keen fisherman and most mornings when im heading down to throw a line out its very foggy conditions.
Firstly i am thinking that this best installed into the front bumper lower section, attached to the bumper grill section?
Does that sound right?
I haven't found a 2nd Gen thread that mentions someone doing so before.
Any advise is appreciated.
Thanks
Dougs
[TUFFTR]
17-01-2010, 07:45 AM
Doug. if your prepared to spend a bit of coin, Keep an eye out for a Diamante Series 1 bumper bar and fog lights.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/100_1303.jpg
There is also the series 2 bumper bar option, but ALOT harder to come by.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9685/neeewrn3.jpg
These can be easily wired up with a pre-made wiring loom available from your automotive retail outlets, or if you have a 4 pin relay, a switch and some wire, you can wire it in yourself (really quite easy)
and after actually having a set of foglights that work now, I can tell you that they are very bright. Highly recommened.
Elwyn
17-01-2010, 08:06 AM
Another option - far less slick than TUFFTR's - is the use of a "lightbar" which sits up above the bumper in front of the grille. Check the For Sale threads, cos one was listed in the last day or two - might be Spider-Ken's thread.
Thinking about this, though - the lightbar might be for driving lights rather than fogs...... where lower mounting of fogs would def be the better way to go.
Magna_TR-Driver
24-01-2010, 08:52 AM
I installed some lights in my bumper myself was so easy. Sorry i dont have a better pic as i dont have the car anymore.
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/858/p6040063bk9.jpg
cberry30
24-01-2010, 10:09 AM
I installed some lights in my bumper myself was so easy. Sorry i dont have a better pic as i dont have the car anymore.
How did you do this
sean1993
24-01-2010, 10:14 AM
How did you do this
duct tape and a pair of pliers? lol
Magna_TR-Driver
24-01-2010, 10:37 AM
How did you do this
Tools required for this stanley knife and philips head screwdriver.
And you definately require lights and a fitting kit.
What I did to my old KS was to use a sharp knife and cut out the outer-most horizontal slats in the bottom grill leaving a whopping big space for foggies. If you then take a look at the metal bar behind it, its got a hole which I used to attach a pendant style rectangulare fog light. Bumper bar is not required to be removed as well.
Here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11069&highlight=fog+lights#7) are some pics of mine.
You will also need two relays, a switch which you can mount into the empty slot next to the mirror control. Here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64317&highlight=fog+lights) is a thread about wiring them up.
[TUFFTR]
24-01-2010, 09:27 PM
Why use 2 switch's
Only need 1?
Pin 30 - Run off battery fused by appropriate size fuse (Usualy 10-15A)
Pin 87 - To fog lights (+)
Pin 85 - tapped off parker circuit +, running through switch in cabin
Pin 86 - Ground
(Italics are you power and earth)
(normal writing is the coil, low current needed only)
Sometimes I do stuff up, but pretty sure that should work without a hiccup.
Doh, that's right. Typo made in referred post. 1 switch and 1 relay required only. I had a proper DIY set of instructions written on here but has been removed.
Dougal
26-01-2010, 07:09 PM
Hi All,
Thanks to those who provided advise and information regarding my question on fog/driving lights.
I have now sucessfully installed these in my SE TS. See link
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/album.php?albumid=277
I am very happy with the results even though it took all day to install.
Finding the easiest way to getting wiring through to the cabin from the engine bay was probably the most difficult part of this exercise.
Ending up tracing the wiring through the drivers side wheel arch and through the existing sealed electrical hole using a coat hanger thingy
Anyway i like that my lights work via a switch in the cabin via the parker switch (only when the high beam lights are on)
Hi All,
Thanks to those who provided advise and information regarding my question on fog/driving lights.
I have now sucessfully installed these in my SE TS. See link
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/album.php?albumid=277
I am very happy with the results even though it took all day to install.
Finding the easiest way to getting wiring through to the cabin from the engine bay was probably the most difficult part of this exercise.
Ending up tracing the wiring through the drivers side wheel arch and through the existing sealed electrical hole using a coat hanger thingy
Anyway i like that my lights work via a switch in the cabin via the parker switch (only when the high beam lights are on)
Looks good. Question: Are they fog lights or driving lights. If they are fog lights then they should have been wired such that the new relay is triggered off the parking lights. You generally do not want high beams when going through fog as the light will just reflect back and blind you. Same goes for low beams that is why fog lights are wired to parkers so that only your parkers and fog lights are on.
Dougal
26-01-2010, 10:58 PM
Hi Vlad,
Thanks for your reply.
They were purchased to be used as fog lights for my early morning fishing trips.
The box states they are fog and driving lights, which i think they have just labeled incorrectly (the wiring diagram shows differentky to how you describe)
I think i was a little ignorant on the way fog lights work whilst driving through a fog, as i assumed that the more light the better the visabillity. Which is as you correctly mention actually would make it harder to see.
The salesperson who recommended them to me probably didn't know what exactly these lights were designed for either.
i will re-wire them up again so that they can be used with just my parker lights on but before i do so i will contact the manufacturers so see if they can shed some more light onto this for me (pardon the pun!)
Thanks
Dougs
There is a big difference between fog and driving lights in the way they project light as well. Driving lights have a pencil beam, narrow and long for long distance lighting where as fog lights have a short but wide beam. The purpose of fog lights is to go under the fog and light up the immediate front and side of the road. Fogs generally hover over the road or are thinner near the ground.
presti
27-01-2010, 09:29 AM
Tools required for this stanley knife and philips head screwdriver.
And you definately require lights and a fitting kit.
if you buy new lights say from a shop, does the fitting kit come with or is that just a general term for a loom/switch/fuses and cables?
From what I've seen, the fitting kit is just a term for a collection of stuff you buy separately. The lights just come in a box with nothing else. When I was doing mine on the KS, I went through 4 sets of lights before settling on the one I liked and none of them came with wiring, switch or relay.
presti
27-01-2010, 10:33 AM
From what I've seen, the fitting kit is just a term for a collection of stuff you buy separately. The lights just come in a box with nothing else. When I was doing mine on the KS, I went through 4 sets of lights before settling on the one I liked and none of them came with wiring, switch or relay.
ahhh shiit. so if ibough the lights, would i go to like jaycar or autobarn and say i want a relay for foglights, a switch and the correct guage wiring? or would i have to go to mitsu? i dont even know what relay's look like/what capasity they are lol
ahhh shiit. so if ibough the lights, would i go to like jaycar or autobarn and say i want a relay for foglights, a switch and the correct guage wiring? or would i have to go to mitsu? i dont even know what relay's look like/what capasity they are lol
Jaycar or autobar or even kmart auto will do. Just make sure you get the correct relay as there are 4 pin ones (SPST - single pole single throw), 5 pin ones (single pole double throw) and 6 pin ones (double pole double throw). You need the 4 pin ones unless you want the relay to power something else when you switch it off (see here (http://autospeed.com/cms/title_Using-Relays/A_2741/article.html) for info). Also make sure you get switches for DC application rather then for AC application as AC switches don't have wide enough gap which can cause arcing due to the nature of DC vs AC). With wiring, the bit that goes to the switch and back can be light guage as that is sourced from the parker lights where as the cables that goes to the fog lights need to be able to handle the currents that the lights draw.
presti
27-01-2010, 12:08 PM
thanks mann il bookmark this thread so i remember everything, sorry to the OP if i stole it temporarily lol :)
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