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Daveo
19-01-2010, 06:28 PM
Hey Guys,

First time poster, long time reader.

A few months ago now I picked up my grandfather's TH Magna (2000 build). Just last week I had the timing belt changed on it (100,000km service I think it was). Anyway, the mechanic was meant to do an oil change at the same time but he forgot. I'm not that fussed about it because I am sort of tempted to change the oil on it myself...I just don't know what I need (spec wise) to do it.

Is it worth me doing it myself? Or just getting the mechanic to do it? I found the oil filter and it looks easy enough to get to...?

Thanks,

Daveo

[TUFFTR]
19-01-2010, 06:34 PM
What kind of tools do you have?
At a minimum You want/need
1/2 (3/8 minimum) breaker bar and ratchet
Assortment of sockets (6 point...cant stress that enough)
Sump washers
Oil tray
Oil filter remover tool.
Jack
Stands
2L soft drink bottle cut in half (use upside down as a funnel)

Oil changes yourself are pretty easy, but if you dont have the tools right up, first oil change might set you back a few hundred bucks in tools. If not, Its a simple case of undo plug, let drain, remove filter, clean oil filter housing with a rag, have beer, new sump plug washer (can re-use sump plug) new filter, tighten by hand, fill with oil, check dipstick, start car, turn off and recheck oil level and check for leaks
:D

Disciple
19-01-2010, 06:35 PM
Hey Guys,

First time poster, long time reader.

A few months ago now I picked up my grandfather's TH Magna (2000 build). Just last week I had the timing belt changed on it (100,000km service I think it was). Anyway, the mechanic was meant to do an oil change at the same time but he forgot. I'm not that fussed about it because I am sort of tempted to change the oil on it myself...I just don't know what I need (spec wise) to do it.

Is it worth me doing it myself? Or just getting the mechanic to do it? I found the oil filter and it looks easy enough to get to...?

Thanks,

Daveo


Ratchet, 24mm socket, 5L oil (take your pick, probably a 10W-40 synthetic) and an oil filter (Ryco part number Z456) As TUFFTR said, you may need a breaker bar as sometimes the sump plug is quite hard to get off. I also find an oil filter attachment kit is quite handy.

MOS84
19-01-2010, 06:59 PM
from memory the sump plug is a 24mm socket? as i had to buy it seperate cos my kit didnt go that high!

VR-S3X
19-01-2010, 07:47 PM
;1190939']What kind of tools do you have?
At a minimum You want/need
1/2 (3/8 minimum) breaker bar and ratchet
Assortment of sockets (6 point...cant stress that enough)
Sump washers
Oil tray
Oil filter remover tool.
Jack
Stands
2L soft drink bottle cut in half (use upside down as a funnel)

Oil changes yourself are pretty easy, but if you dont have the tools right up, first oil change might set you back a few hundred bucks in tools. If not, Its a simple case of undo plug, let drain, remove filter, clean oil filter housing with a rag, have beer, new sump plug washer (can re-use sump plug) new filter, tighten by hand, fill with oil, check dipstick, start car, turn off and recheck oil level and check for leaks
:D

Don't forget to refit and tighten sump plug lol

Gas_Hed
19-01-2010, 08:14 PM
Little tip: Instead of using a soft drink bottle use a milk bottle chopped in half. The hole in the top of the milk bottle clips nicely into the oil filler hole and holds the "funnel" in position.

Madmagna
19-01-2010, 08:22 PM
Why not use a funnel lol

The socket is 24mm, USE 6 Point

the plug takes an "O" ring, not a washer

I recommend and always use Penrite, you can use either HPR10 or HPR15

Also, pay a few extra bucks for a genuine filter, if you are going to keep the car a while see if they will do you a deal for 6 filters

GTVLAD79
19-01-2010, 08:38 PM
Why not use a funnel lol

The socket is 24mm, USE 6 Point

the plug takes an "O" ring, not a washer

I recommend and always use Penrite, you can use either HPR10 or HPR15

Also, pay a few extra bucks for a genuine filter, if you are going to keep the car a while see if they will do you a deal for 6 filters

Yep, gotta agree with the magnaman. 100%
Yep every word he said!
Dont, not use the O ring either, its like $2.20(last time I bought em in 07, got 10 to save time).

Penrite HPR10 is a lovely oil for the 6g72/74, but I personally find it needs doing at the max 10,000klm(with 20% spirited driving).

Infact I used Penrite HPR5 and their auto fluid while I had my Ford Escape. Damn did it quietin down the engine(double row timing chain). And make the 4wd transfer smoother and quieter too.

veradabeast
19-01-2010, 09:35 PM
Also, pay a few extra bucks for a genuine filter

I picked up several from my local dealer @ $16ea, whereas the cheapest Ryco I could find was $22. It's amazing how cheap the genuine cans were.

matty.c
20-01-2010, 05:41 AM
i actually have a 24mm socket i linished down so it has no internal shoulder.. cos those sump plugs are buggers as they are very thin!

it's my magna specific tool :)

i am of the theroy that you can never service a car too often.. i do mine every 5k or 3 mts.. and after 200,000km's there is no sludge, no gunge nothing.. infact everything it a nice light brown/gold colour (i was replacing rocker cover gaskets, tube seals, breather hoses and putting my new 380 injectors in)

and belive me i have worked on some perfect examples of -extended- servicing.. lots of jap imports.. and the odd, 'it's about 13,000 since the last service.. and before that i think i had one last year or somthing?'

p.s. wesfil/cooper filters ;) $4-4.50 each... http://www.wesfil.com.au/page/products

Disciple
20-01-2010, 06:12 AM
I picked up several from my local dealer @ $16ea, whereas the cheapest Ryco I could find was $22. It's amazing how cheap the genuine cans were.

:facejump: I pick up Ryco filters from my local Auto One store for around $3.90.

Madmagna
20-01-2010, 06:28 AM
Forget Cooper, I have seen so many drop seals and a few split the seam as well. Did an engine swap recently where a cooper split.
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If a cust supplies one, I flatly refuse to install it

Is amazing how some will try and save $8 bucks to put a thousand dollar engine at risk

ernysp76
20-01-2010, 07:41 AM
Also when you are undoing the sump plug get some dish washing gloves as the oil coming out is a know carcinogen, try to twist your hand over the top of the plug and undo the last bit by hand, it might stop the oil going everywhere and the plug dropping into the oil tray. You might find the oil filter is really tight if you get a rag around it and grab it with two hand it will usually come loose other wise you'll need to get a oil filter tool. Sometime the rubber "O" ring on the oil filter stays on the motor if you put the new filter over this major leak, so make sure it comes off with the old filter put a smear of new oil on the new filter "O" ring before you put it on. I use AC Delco filter but only cause I get them at $3 each.

Mecha-wombat
20-01-2010, 04:06 PM
I recommend and always use Penrite, you can use either HPR10 or HPR15


HPR is great stuff MAL

my Corolla was sounding like a diesel took your recommendation and filled it HPR 10

great oil for OLDER higher milage engines

and always when changing oil dispose of it correctly


AND have PLENTY of rags, rags are good