ive just been googling and came accross this.

after reading it i have actually came accross this when pushing my car. maybe its time to pay my local dealer a visit.

link (http://autospeed.com/cms/A_3012/article.html)

I will complain when I take it in in a week for tippy trouble and the LED rear light rattle

i rad this before and lost the article good find

group complain then............

i assume that was along the line of a group buy. Lol. Wonder if we could get some extra benefits if we did a group complain!

Does the steering kickback feel like a harsher jolt then the torque steer? From what i read, they almost sound like the same thing.

Not sure if this would only be an issue on manuals driven right near the edge of grip etc. I bought this car as an auto for a new daily driver knowing the auto had better economy, but drove nice, and was a good box in itself in how it shifts etc. I did not want an old school 4sp auto, especially without the tiptronic, though I hardly use it.

I think the engineers may have made the right call, I won't be driving my car like that though I do like the twisty bits, I don't drive it that hard through each corner.

Hmmm i might leave this one. I don't want to loose any more steering feel because after doing 30-odd thousand kays in my beloved 380 I'll be honest in saying it never really had any to begin with :eeek:

Does the steering kickback feel like a harsher jolt then the torque steer? From what i read, they almost sound like the same thing.

its wierd. the first time i expirienced it it made a loud bang noise as if i had hit something. then torque steer sort off thing. but later that day it did it again. all at high engine revs and fast cornering.

Curious - would have thought I'd have spotted that in my week in a Series 2 SX. The 70km run along the Oxley Hwy out of Pt Macquarie is a freaking sensational stretch of winding tight corners - I demolished 2/3 of a tank of fuel in that 70km, so was pushing very very hard. I had to stop 4 times along that run to let it idle and cool the transmission down - it was locking me out of lower gears via the tippy!!!!

It that day the 380 became my friend (even though I was being a bit mean to it - hire car ;) ) - many many times into 1st and 2nd gear corner hard on the brakes and tipping the tranny into lower gears for 5-6500rpm full throttle launches out of corners. It really showed the very very good TCL tuning - it would let the tyres squeal and squirm to let you feel what they were up to, but really tamed the torque steer well.

The car was amazing. I had to walk around it afterwards to remind myself it was so big! The chuckability, rear end flickability and overall composure had no right being in a car this big!

I turned the TCL off a couple of times, and it did become MUCH harder work. I wonder if the journo in that article had his off? Or maybe the TCL needs to calibrated differently for the manual cars?

To get that sort of thumping feedback is essentially the tyres spinning/slipping and regaining traction suddenly - you have to seriously pushing it. It also speaks highly of the levels of grip inherent in the chassis for it to take that much to make it let go like that! Victim of its own success in some ways perchance?

:stoopid:

I've been trying to tell ppl for years how good this car handles for a big FWD. It's so chuckable with the sports suspension. You can take a really stupid line into a corner too fast and still readjust mid corner without disaster. Mid corner braking is no problem where other FWD cars just understeer off into the scenery. It's that well sorted.
Anything slalom is also a revelation i.e. roundabouts with quick direction changing belies the weight you are throwing around.

Personally, I've never had the steering kickback described.

If only it wasnt so thirsty.... I considered like a big Renault Megane (especially from inside - not sure who copied who, but they're certainly very very similar!!). The French do a lot of things really well, and setting up a front drive chassis is one of them (not quite so hot at screwing them together, but nothings perfect :)). The 380 felt very "French" in its handling - this is a good thing ;)

Mmm very interesting read that. Not having punted the ol' girl around at all that much(shock horror am I getting old?? or just afraid of getting booked?) I have never really felt this. However I do have a slush box (read tippy) which I still am copping flack over from my friends. Me thinks I will stick with the standard one.