I'm thinking of getting 17" mags for my TR and I just want them to look simple but nice and white or light coloured. Also i would need to know what size tyres to get also, I think have 17" wheels on a car that was 14" when stock is illegal ( I think you can have an increase of 2" only) but correct me if I'm wrong. I'm currently looking at the ones from the new Falcon SR. Tell me what you think?

I've got a feeling its 3" not 2" so you should be alright in that respect.

But I dont think you will have much luck with the Ford rims they have a different offset and i think a different stud pattern.

rim size doesnt matter at all. you could go from a 14" to a 20" if you wanted, so long as you dont go anymore than 2" WIDER than stock. for us you cant go any wider than 7", so 17x7 is fine. you'll just have to search around for some good tyres. alot of guys have 235/45 but alot of places dont recommend them for 7" rims. ive got 215/45 and now ive had them a bit i think there just a little to narrow. i think 225/45 or 50 would be the way to go.

Okay thanks for that guys. I don't know what you mean by a different offset and stud pattern or how it affects it but in that case are there any types of 17" rims that you guys can recommend that would suit a 2nd gen? I'm looking for something that isn't chrome, I like white, it will suit the colour of the car

erh...youd wanna goto your local RTA (or wot va it is in ur state) and ask for the papers regarding wheel sizes. IN 2001 (maybe 2) in NSW you could get any size rim n tyre but it couldnt be any bigger then 1" higher then the stock item.

Your best bet is to goto the local authority and get the papers (maybe on the net also) and keep them in your car if your rims fit into that legal catagory.

if your car is fully insured, also check with them how big you can go.

Diameter cannot be more than 2 inches bigger than stock that came with the car. Offset can
not change by more than 1 inch and width cannot change by more than 2 inches.

In Victoria you cannot increase diameter by more than 15mm (that's less than 1"), and not more than 25mm wider, no greater than 25mm change in offset.

rim size doesnt matter at all. you could go from a 14" to a 20" if you wanted, so long as you dont go anymore than 2" WIDER than stock. for us you cant go any wider than 7", so 17x7 is fine. you'll just have to search around for some good tyres. alot of guys have 235/45 but alot of places dont recommend them for 7" rims. ive got 215/45 and now ive had them a bit i think there just a little to narrow. i think 225/45 or 50 would be the way to go.


Sorry MAGWGN, that's wrong. In NSW it's 2 inches larger in diametre and 1 inch wider.

victoria is 2" in diamater and 2" in width i htough

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi_dl1.html

This has all the standards information for NSW

well someone should definately pass this information on to the nrma because they cleared me to do whatever i wanted as long as they went no wider than 7". that was the only stipulation they gave.

Sorry MAGWGN, that's wrong. In NSW it's 2 inches larger in diametre and 1 inch wider.Sorry KB, that's not completely right either. I just had a look at that and the full document is at
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi09_rev4.pdf


An important requirement for all replacement wheels is that the wheel track must not be increased by more than 25mm beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer for that vehicle.
...
Minor changes to wheels
Wheels up to 26mm wider than the largest optional wheel recommended by the vehicle manufacturer for the vehicle can be fitted without the need to notify the RTA.

The outside diameter of the wheel and tyre combination must be no more than 15mm over the largest diameter wheel and tyre combination specified for the vehicle and not more than 15mm below the smallest diameter wheel and tyre combination specified for the vehicle.
So there is no requirement over the wheel diameter, as long as the wheel and tyre combination is within 15mm of the original diameter.

Further on in the document it has some engineer certified wheel width changes, but then clarifies for front wheel drive vehicles that 26mm is the widest change to wheels for the front.

I'm sticking with my stockies, unless someone wants to give :confused: me some 4x114 (no more than 6" wide I think) wheels with the right offset.

I think what everyone is forgetting here is that every state has different regulations, and every insurance firm has different guidelines. You are effectively bound by the most restrictive aspects of the 2 put together.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrne/vrninte.nsf/alldocs/53379F4D9354F50BCA256E66000F55DD?OpenDocument&Area=[Road+safety+hidden+documents]

Section A

this is for victoria only

basically:
rim width no more than 25mm wider than the maximum option specified for your vehicle.
no less than minimum width option for your vehicle. (pretty sure these can be found in the fuel filler door on 2nd gens).

the rim and tyre combination must be between max specified + 15mm and min specified - 15mm.

so you can go from 14inch rims and 6inches of tire to 20" rims and 15mm of tire, as long as the new rims are no more than 25mm wider than mitsubishi makes 'em.

"we love you cause you're a Victorian!"

Sorry KB, that's not completely right either. I just had a look at that and the full document is at
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi09_rev4.pdf


So there is no requirement over the wheel diameter, as long as the wheel and tyre combination is within 15mm of the original diameter.

Further on in the document it has some engineer certified wheel width changes, but then clarifies for front wheel drive vehicles that 26mm is the widest change to wheels for the front.

I'm sticking with my stockies, unless someone wants to give :confused: me some 4x114 (no more than 6" wide I think) wheels with the right offset.

Sorry yeah I made a mistake..I was thinking of NRMA's restrictions..my bad..sorry Cory!

accepted (feeling very tempted to do kb's pattented happy dance but bound by maturity and good sportsmanship)

Liar..you're not mature :bowrofl:

shut up! i am so! im gonna tell on you!!!!

Dan in WA, u can go 2 inches bigger (but i doubt cops would pull u over if u had 17's) and only 1 inch wider.

the stud pattern and offset must stay the same. stud pattern is how many bolts are used to bolt a wheel on. i a magna's case 5. and the offset if like 114, well for the 3rd gens anyway

Trav

While we're on this topic... every tyre/wheel shop I went to to get tyres for my 17x7's said that I should not go any less than 235/45/17. But I have also heard that legally this tyre is too wide for 7" rims?

Is this a safety reason? Should I be concerned that I have 235/45/17 on my 17x7's?

Wouldnt 225/45 or whatever give quite a different speedo reading?

Kim

I thought you couldn't put 235's on a 7" rim?
Thought 225 was the max?

"couldnt" as it in wont physically fit? Or "couldnt" as in not legally?

I know for sure that they do fit (as I have them on my 7" wide rim). I haven't had any problems with apart from slight rubbing on the front mud shield thing in the front guard. This was fixed by cable tying the weather shield back towards the front bumper.

I just don't know if it is legal or not. I have heard that it is not legal, but EVERY tyre centre I went to said that 235 is the best for my 17x7 rims.. :confused:

"couldnt" as it in wont physically fit? Or "couldnt" as in not legally?

I know for sure that they do fit (as I have them on my 7" wide rim). I haven't had any problems with apart from slight rubbing on the front mud shield thing in the front guard. This was fixed by cable tying the weather shield back towards the front bumper.

I just don't know if it is legal or not. I have heard that it is not legal, but EVERY tyre centre I went to said that 235 is the best for my 17x7 rims.. :confused:

Ah ok then...I thought you couldn't physically. Thanks for correcting me on that :D

But I dont think you will have much luck with the Ford rims they have a different offset and i think a different stud pattern.
There's a 2nd Gen around the corner from my house, and he has put the 16" BA Ford Futura rims on it. Looks the goods too, nice style, nice size. And also, I believe it is well documented in the forums that Falcon and Magna rims are pretty much interchangable without modification (well, maybe tyre profile), or is this only for the 3rd Gens?