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alscall
16-02-2010, 01:54 PM
To all those who those purchased these from Philcom in the last group buy.

How have you found them?

Was the installation easy - a DIY job?

How much does the ride quality differ from what you had previously? (What did you upgrade from?)

Would you rather a stiffer or softer spring & which setting have you chosen for them?

Has anyone had any 'wear' issues with them or issues with getting alignments done?


The reason I ask is because I'm undecided as to go with a set of these or go with Koni Yellows plus custom rate/ height springs. But I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle & if the K-Sports might just be the easiest/ best way to go?

I'd rather only replies from those that actually have them installed as we speak or have had them installed in a Magna previously.

Thanks.

T_double_U
16-02-2010, 02:53 PM
How have you found them? Great i Love how much tighter the car feels in the bends compared to my old setup.

Was the installation easy - a DIY job? Well Mike (lenda) mostly did the install for me but it can be a DIY if your handy with a spanner and can rope in a few mates to give you a hand.Be warned though the rear passenger side strut removal and install is a pain in the ass.

How much does the ride quality differ from what you had previously? (What did you upgrade from?)I previously had KYB's with kings lows on the back and s/lows on the front,once the k-sports were installed i only noticed a slight loss of ride quality.

Would you rather a stiffer or softer spring & which setting have you chosen for them?I wouldn't mind the spring rate being a little firmer but i'm on 17's so the larger sidewall does soften the ride up a bit,but if your on 18's or 19's i believe the spring rate is spot on for the street at least.I run the hardest setting front and rear.

Has anyone had any 'wear' issues with them or issues with getting alignments done? I have noticed a very slight weeping coming from the top of the front struts.When i had the alignment done they had to adjust the front passenger side camber top all the way over to get 1deg on negative camber were as the front drivers side needed very little movement to get the same amount of camber.But this problem is probably an installation issue rather than a fault with the k-sports as nobody else i know who got there's from the group buy had this problem.

Hope that's of some assistance.

86_Elite
16-02-2010, 03:57 PM
How have you found them? Great, best improvement in my car to date and once I get a rear sway bar and strut brace its going to even be better

Was the installation easy - a DIY job? Also got a hand from Mike (Lenda) but it was a lot easier than I thought and with 2 people doing the rears are as easy as the fronts you just need someone big (like me) to stand on the rear hub to push it down to line up the strut bottom.

How much does the ride quality differ from what you had previously? (What did you upgrade from?) Great improvment, I had the Low / SL combo and I drove with coilovers in the front and SL in the rear and noticed how crap the springs were.

Would you rather a stiffer or softer spring & which setting have you chosen for them? Ive gone 6 turns off the hardest setting and find its perfect for the way I drive, spring rate feels tight and perfect for spirited driving on the road.

Has anyone had any 'wear' issues with them or issues with getting alignments done? No issues at all with them, i did my initial adjustment when we put them in, let them settle for a week and then made my final adjustments the following weekend.


The reason I ask is because I'm undecided as to go with a set of these or go with Koni Yellows plus custom rate/ height springs. But I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle & if the K-Sports might just be the easiest/ best way to go?
For $1500 delivered to your door, you cant go wrong, its worth the extra cash and with all the ammounts of adjustment you can do on them, you will be more than happy.

I'd rather only replies from those that actually have them installed as we speak or have had them installed in a Magna previously.

Thanks.

el3ment
16-02-2010, 06:22 PM
I'll be watching this thread closely. Im installing my K-sport coilovers next month, which is an upgrade from my current setup. KYB shocks and King low/superlow setup. If thread still open, I will add my own experience :)

GoTRICE
16-02-2010, 07:57 PM
This in the TR??


How have you found them? Great, best improvement in my car to date and once I get a rear sway bar and strut brace its going to even be better

Was the installation easy - a DIY job? Also got a hand from Mike (Lenda) but it was a lot easier than I thought and with 2 people doing the rears are as easy as the fronts you just need someone big (like me) to stand on the rear hub to push it down to line up the strut bottom.

How much does the ride quality differ from what you had previously? (What did you upgrade from?) Great improvment, I had the Low / SL combo and I drove with coilovers in the front and SL in the rear and noticed how crap the springs were.

Would you rather a stiffer or softer spring & which setting have you chosen for them? Ive gone 6 turns off the hardest setting and find its perfect for the way I drive, spring rate feels tight and perfect for spirited driving on the road.

Has anyone had any 'wear' issues with them or issues with getting alignments done? No issues at all with them, i did my initial adjustment when we put them in, let them settle for a week and then made my final adjustments the following weekend.


The reason I ask is because I'm undecided as to go with a set of these or go with Koni Yellows plus custom rate/ height springs. But I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle & if the K-Sports might just be the easiest/ best way to go?
For $1500 delivered to your door, you cant go wrong, its worth the extra cash and with all the ammounts of adjustment you can do on them, you will be more than happy.

I'd rather only replies from those that actually have them installed as we speak or have had them installed in a Magna previously.

Thanks.

QMD///801
16-02-2010, 08:56 PM
How have you found them? Great in every way, they are smooth compared to my previous hotbits, yet they handle everything you throw at them.

Was the installation easy - a DIY job? We (Megatron, Muzza_Oz and myself) initially ordered these through a contact we had direct with Ksport before Philcom looked at getting them, ours required some slight modification to fit as they were evo tops. once we had it down pat its an easy job, I've adjusted my heights myself at home with ease - changing height requires removal of strutt .

How much does the ride quality differ from what you had previously? (What did you upgrade from?) I previously had Hotbits sport spec coilovers with modified valves, however the springrates were too soft so the shock wasn't allowing the spring to do its job mainly because the hotbits are height adjustment modified the springrate. Ksports don't - the spring remains the same and the strut itself is shortened or lengthened to get the right height. the ride quality of the Ksports is amazing it's almost comparable to the ride quality in the EvoX MR, just a little stiffer. you know its there but its still smooth.

Would you rather a stiffer or softer spring & which setting have you chosen for them?I have very heavy springs in mine.. the damper setting is 10 from hardest and its still very firm.

Has anyone had any 'wear' issues with them or issues with getting alignments done? No issues, suggest putting a tad of grease on the top and bottom of the springs to make them quiet..

Just to make it clear my set up isn't the same as what philcom are offering, but they are a great product!

TimmyC
16-02-2010, 09:22 PM
This in the TR??

TR has been sold to a member on here (LOUD1) Benny has a TE now :)

[TUFFTR]
17-02-2010, 07:31 AM
But to answer yes they were in his TR.
TR front struts are same as 3rd gen.

lathiat
17-02-2010, 02:01 PM
;1205229']But to answer yes they were in his TR.
TR front struts are same as 3rd gen.

Ehm I don't know if he also had some on his TR but some went into his TE as well the other week.

86_Elite
17-02-2010, 03:03 PM
Sorry for thread spam but I will clarify this. I have got Koni Red Damper Adjustable in the TR I was going to order customs for the TR to put the coil overs in but changed my mind and ordered the K-Sports for the TE. The TR never had coil overs, but I can recommend both (Coil overs and Koni Reds) as they both handled amazing and am still pleased with both of my cars setups. Back on Topic :)

alscall
14-03-2010, 05:52 PM
Thanks everyone for their input.



Was the installation easy - a DIY job? We (Megatron, Muzza_Oz and myself) initially ordered these through a contact we had direct with Ksport before Philcom looked at getting them, ours required some slight modification to fit as they were evo tops. once we had it down pat its an easy job, I've adjusted my heights myself at home with ease - changing height requires removal of strutt .



So the ride height can only be adjusted by removing the coilovers...is this the front & rear? Is this the same for all coilovers, or only some? How about the damper settings, can that be done on the K-Sports whilst they're in the car?

Also, with regards to the evo strut tops - do they fit? How much modification to the tops is needed to make them fit or is it not something you could do at home? Has anyone else succesfully fitted evo tops?

NORBY
14-03-2010, 06:16 PM
for the price of the k-sports personally i would look at evo oz and adapt some evo coilovers, im sure the quality and the availability of spares would be better

alscall
14-03-2010, 06:37 PM
for the price of the k-sports personally i would look at evo oz and adapt some evo coilovers, im sure the quality and the availability of spares would be better

I have been for some time, but for the price the K-sports are pretty good value. A direct bolt-in so $$ saved on labour fitting them; only a wheel alignment.

The evo coilovers will cost a minimum of $500 fitted, plus alignment. (The rear bracket that needs to be made will cost ~$250, plus fitting, etc.) PLUS, any decent evo coilover will cost ~$2,000 or more, unless you go for 2nd hand or cheapies - neither of which I want, if possible.

NORBY
14-03-2010, 06:40 PM
I have been for some time, but for the price the K-sports are pretty good value. A direct bolt-in so $$ saved on labour fitting them; only a wheel alignment.

The evo coilovers will cost a minimum of $500 fitted, plus alignment. (The rear bracket that needs to be made will cost ~$250, plus fitting, etc.) PLUS, any decent evo coilover will cost ~$2,000 or more, unless you go for 2nd hand or cheapies - neither of which I want, if possible.

fair point.

I know the act guys were using evo coilovers, DHS or something the brand was. However the price was around the ~2k mark as you said

I just dont think from reading around the net that the K-Sport stuff is that great if you do decide to take the next step with your car. And parts arent especially cheap for rebuilds etc


Anyway i'll leave your thread be

QMD///801
14-03-2010, 08:17 PM
Thanks everyone for their input.



So the ride height can only be adjusted by removing the coilovers...is this the front & rear? Is this the same for all coilovers, or only some? How about the damper settings, can that be done on the K-Sports whilst they're in the car?

Also, with regards to the evo strut tops - do they fit? How much modification to the tops is needed to make them fit or is it not something you could do at home? Has anyone else succesfully fitted evo tops?

because of the design the Ksports height is adjusted via the actual length of the strut - this means that the springrate is always the same.. this is what makes these coilovers stand out from others available off the shelf for the magna.. I had the hotbits and I could adjust the ride height without removing my rims... however in doing so the springrates were changed..

damper is just a knob at the top and can be adjusted anytime...

For those of you that came up to Qld for MM09 you will know we drive our cars pretty hard on the mountains.. I think for the magna there is no better option and the Kpsort, sure, if your car was dedicated to track then you would look at spendin the $3k + for DMS coilovers or something great like them but for the majority of us the Ksports will suite our needs

ernysp76
14-03-2010, 09:17 PM
because of the design the Ksports height is adjusted via the actual length of the strut - this means that the springrate is always the same.. this is what makes these coilovers stand out from others available off the shelf for the magna.. I had the hotbits and I could adjust the ride height without removing my rims... however in doing so the springrates were changed..

damper is just a knob at the top and can be adjusted anytime...

For those of you that came up to Qld for MM09 you will know we drive our cars pretty hard on the mountains.. I think for the magna there is no better option and the Kpsort, sure, if your car was dedicated to track then you would look at spendin the $3k + for DMS coilovers or something great like them but for the majority of us the Ksports will suite our needs

Totally agree DMS or even MC are pure competition suspension and the sky will be the limit on what you are prepared to spend ($3K - $5K for DMS & $4K up with Murry Cootes) but really you'll never explore the limits of either of these unless you spend a majority of the time on the track or rallying in which case brakes tyres and wheels need to be considered. For road use Ksport or Koni (red or yellow) will be a vast improvement not convinced that coil overs are better than a well sorted spring / shocker combo. A set of Kings rated at say 220Ib front and 180Ib rear at what ever ride height you want matted to a set of Koni adjustable s some adjustable Whiteline sway bars 1-2 degree toe in on the rear some camber pins and you'll probably run rings around the Ksports and have a more controlled and tune-able setup.

GoTRICE
15-03-2010, 03:37 PM
what rates do the ksports have??

86_Elite
15-03-2010, 04:15 PM
See K-Sport Thread in regards to Spring Rates, but AFAIK, they are made a little softer than what they come out with so they are not too violent when driving. They are not hardcore though I can tell you that much but definitely a really firm ride.

Brett H
16-03-2010, 08:19 AM
How have they been found in terms of durability?

ernysp76
17-03-2010, 05:35 PM
Thought this might help those trying to workout how to set up suspension:

http://www.mcasuspension.com/setup.pdf

Boozer
17-03-2010, 05:41 PM
Thought this might help those trying to workout how to set up suspension:

http://www.mcasuspension.com/setup.pdf

awesome, good info