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Flying Ace
05-03-2010, 06:26 AM
I want to get my original height stock springs refitted, but have been quoted around $300 from a couple of places. Does this sound about right? It seems a bit over the top considering I got the car lowered with the place supplying the springs for just over $400! I still have my original springs, so it would just be labour.

Any places you can recommend on the Sunshine Coast?
Thanks!!

mezzi_24
05-03-2010, 08:27 AM
I want to get my original height stock springs refitted, but have been quoted around $300 from a couple of places. Does this sound about right? It seems a bit over the top considering I got the car lowered with the place supplying the springs for just over $400! I still have my original springs, so it would just be labour.

Any places you can recommend on the Sunshine Coast?
Thanks!!

I think that sounds right because this is what I got from WA Suspensions about a month ago.

"For front and rear springs only you would be looking at $340 inc GST.
If you would like us to supply and fit the coils as well as do a full wheel alignment you would be looking at $640 inc GST."

But then I did get this one from a different supplier:

"We have a lowered King spring available for you vehicle.
The front ride height would drop approx 50mm from standard and the rear would drop approx 35mm from standard. The King springs are 30% upgraded of the standard spring rate.
The price for these springs supplied, fitted and aligned would be $548.50 complete."

So technically speaking I think you'd be looking at somewhere between 200 - 250 including alignment perhaps? Can anyone else confirm with more concrete details?

Also, out of curiosity [only because I want to lower my car too!) why returning to the stock springs?

SA TFer
05-03-2010, 08:46 AM
$300 just for labour?? we do it in SA, without an alignment, for a carton :) surely you could organise an AMC work bee to refit your stock suspension for you? would have to work out a lot cheaper, even if you catered :)

Rory_newton
05-03-2010, 08:52 AM
Yeah, seriously all you need are some spring compressors ($50 from supercheap), stands/ jack and a bit of common sense.... (and maybe a torque wrench.... like $20)
Doesnt take that long either...

Flying Ace
05-03-2010, 02:29 PM
I just thought it was a bit expensive for a couple of hours (if that) labour!

I'm returning it to stock because I prefer a smooth ride over looks really :) The ride is pretty harsh and I feel every single little bump that I go over. I remember when my car was on stocks, it was so smooth and comfortable, and I'm longing to have that back - but I don't want to spend $300 for it!

[TUFFTR]
05-03-2010, 02:40 PM
Why not do a trade? put your suspension package for sale on AMC, depending on what you have, then just swap the entire units over. No need to take springs out. I'm sure someone here on standard suspension would love some lowered springs.

Johnnyred
05-03-2010, 02:43 PM
Hourly Labour rate is around $80 - $100. Wheel alignment is approx $65.

Madmagna
05-03-2010, 04:04 PM
Guys,
Good luck compressing a set of standard springs with a set of super cheap compressors and still keeping your head or your arms. This si just the most stupid thing I have read here for ages. You must all know by now how badly these can go if they get away from you

Furher, AMC members may do it for a carton but a workshop can not pay for rent, wages, insurance etc etc with beer

I charge $50 per corner so $200 all up but then again I do not have the same high overheads that some places do

Rory_newton
05-03-2010, 06:25 PM
Guys,
Good luck compressing a set of standard springs with a set of super cheap compressors and still keeping your head or your arms. This si just the most stupid thing I have read here for ages. You must all know by now how badly these can go if they get away from you

Furher, AMC members may do it for a carton but a workshop can not pay for rent, wages, insurance etc etc with beer

I charge $50 per corner so $200 all up but then again I do not have the same high overheads that some places do

Im not talking about the $20 supercheap ones (The ones with only a hook on each end) Nobody is stupid enough to buy those..... Im talking bout the ones with the forged steel jaws etc. I used them for my springs and they were perfect....

ts3.0
05-03-2010, 06:29 PM
Guys,
This si just the most stupid thing I have read here for ages.

Dude you must live a stupidly sheltered life if using spring compressors is the stupidest thing you've heard on this site in ages. I'm sure if you took off your mod hat and thought about it any person with half a brain would mean to buy a decent safe set of compressors.

robssei
05-03-2010, 07:02 PM
Actually the supercheap ones are $50 odd (in NZ) and are perfectly fine, i did my car and it was easy. Screw them down evenly, not one at a time, keeping it even as you adjust both, and face spring away from you whilst doing so. treat them gently while they are compressed and dont leave them lying around compressed, have it setup to transfer them asap. sensible use is safe. if you have to be told to not point them at your face or lay on it . lol. then you should consider a mechanic ha. oh and to change too standard shocks, it took me 1 hour. been safe. I promise.

FFEEkY
05-03-2010, 07:59 PM
Call Max and Brenda at Caloundra Suspension. They are in Daniel St just down from Caloundra City Auto's. Their info is in the QMD Garage (Link is in my Sig).
Make sure you tell them that your part of the Aussie Magna Club and that Keith from Retravision said they'd look after you.

They will give you a no bullshit price. Best part, is you'll be getting someone who actually knows what their doing (Max) do they work. He's been in the suspension game a long time, and after doing the suspension and alignments on my old Verada (after it was lowered the second time) , he knows how to set the alignment up for the best wear too.

Madmagna
05-03-2010, 08:12 PM
Dude you must live a stupidly sheltered life if using spring compressors is the stupidest thing you've heard on this site in ages. I'm sure if you took off your mod hat and thought about it any person with half a brain would mean to buy a decent safe set of compressors.

you are the sheltered person bud, as for my mod hat, well your maturity sure shows here as I am not a Mod for starters and secondly what does my position in AMC have anything to do with the usual crap advice being given to memebrs who clearly have not tried such a dangerous task.

Now while you are being all high and mighty and plucking your brain out of your back end, think of think of the 3 occasions I have had people bring me half compressed springs where these "supercheap" style compressors had bent and or broken and asked me to then risk my life in fixing their fkup

Mate, when you have actually done this to a standard spring you may grow up and see I was trying to save someone and not be a smart ass and spout crap....perhaps take a leaf from that book

ts3.0
05-03-2010, 08:21 PM
lol Totally expected that "I'm better than you" responce. Did you not notice I said about getting good quality spring compressors? Yes I have done it and I used value for money, cheap but good quality compressors and they worked a treat, the world didnt end as predicted and it all went off without a single hitch.

You may have been in the game a long time but doesn't mean that a member can buy a quality value set of spring compressors and perform the same, fairly basic technique of changing the springs for quite a bit cheaper than a workshop.

Hows that for high and mighty.

Madmagna
05-03-2010, 08:22 PM
You people do not understand the danger here clearly

No where until later did anyone specifty $50 set of compressors and for the record I have had more than one member have a very close near miss, even myself with my $300 snap on set when they have slipped not to mention the member with these so called good compressors who at 10 one night brought me a spring compressed with one bent and one half broken "good set" of compressors

Rory_newton
05-03-2010, 08:24 PM
You people do not understand the danger here clearly

No where until later did anyone specifty $50 set of compressors and for the record I have had more than one member have a very close near miss, even myself with my $300 snap on set when they have slipped not to mention the member with these so called good compressors who at 10 one night brought me a spring compressed with one bent and one half broken "good set" of compressors

"Yeah, seriously all you need are some spring compressors ($50 from supercheap)"

Mate that is my unedited post from earlier.

Edit: And just for the record, this comment-> "This si just the most stupid thing I have read here for ages" is not appreciated. This is the kind of crap that usually gets deleted, not handed out by an admin/mod.
Could have easily just said "I wouldnt trust those compressors as I have had many people injured by them blah blah" And left it at that

ts3.0
05-03-2010, 08:54 PM
"Yeah, seriously all you need are some spring compressors ($50 from supercheap)"

Mate that is my unedited post from earlier.

Edit: And just for the record, this comment-> "This si just the most stupid thing I have read here for ages" is not appreciated. This is the kind of crap that usually gets deleted, not handed out by an admin/mod.
Could have easily just said "I wouldnt trust those compressors as I have had many people injured by them blah blah" And left it at that

Its ok, he is doing this to scare people off DIY so they can go to him and earn money off it. Dont have the quote as it was deleted but before he said he charges $200 to do it, being $100 cheaper than a workshop. Conflict of interest I say.

Nemesis
05-03-2010, 09:04 PM
Its ok, he is doing this to scare people off DIY so they can go to him and earn money off it. Dont have the quote as it was deleted but before he said he charges $200 to do it, being $100 cheaper than a workshop. Conflict of interest I say.

:nuts: Or more than likely he's saving would be backyard DIYers doing themselves serious injury from a rapidly expanding spring.

ts3.0
05-03-2010, 09:09 PM
Well that is the other option, theres 2 to choose from.

Ol' Fart
05-03-2010, 09:12 PM
Normally I stay outta these things but in this case I cant.

Working on springs can be done by the home handy man but frankly, if your not a pretty experienced home spanner spinner, and dont have good spring compressors, you can do yourself a serious nasty.

I have a mate who has no front teeth and a plate in his lower jaw from a spring compressor that let go.

If you arnt sure and/or have better quality compressors, FFS, spend a few bucks and get a pro to do it.

The mates false teeth cost him shit loads more than a coupla hundred. (talks funny too) :happy:

As for Madmagna drummin up business, I dont think the OP is gunna drive from qld to vic to get his springs done.

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ts3.0
05-03-2010, 09:16 PM
Normally I stay outta these things but in this case I cant.

Working on springs can be done by the home handy man but frankly, if your not a pretty experienced home spanner spinner, and dont have good spring compressors, you can do yourself a serious nasty.

I have a mate who has no front teeth and a plate in his lower jaw from a spring compressor that let go.

If you arnt sure and/or have better quality compressors, FFS, spend a few bucks and get a pro to do it.

The mates false teeth cost him shit loads more than a coupla hundred. (talks funny too) :happy:

As for Madmagna drummin up business, I dont think the OP is gunna drive from qld to vic to get his springs done.

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Cheers Ol' Fart, its good to have a warning of the dangers of doing such thing's DIY, Having done it myself with a qualified mechanic present I acknowledge what you have said and stick by my earlier comments in this thread.

Rory_newton
05-03-2010, 09:18 PM
Normally I stay outta these things but in this case I cant.

Working on springs can be done by the home handy man but frankly, if your not a pretty experienced home spanner spinner, and dont have good spring compressors, you can do yourself a serious nasty.

I have a mate who has no front teeth and a plate in his lower jaw from a spring compressor that let go.

If you arnt sure and/or have better quality compressors, FFS, spend a few bucks and get a pro to do it.

The mates false teeth cost him shit loads more than a coupla hundred. (talks funny too) :happy:

As for Madmagna drummin up business, I dont think the OP is gunna drive from qld to vic to get his springs done.

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Thats probably why he deleted his post with his prices etc..

Just like I mentioned in my first post, with a little common sense you should be fine doing it yourself... Even if a spring compressor does let go, if you are smart you will have it pointing away from you so when the spring flies off it causes no damage to your face.

Edit: "(talks funny too) :happy:" Ahahahahahahahaahaha, but poor guy.... :(

Ol' Fart
05-03-2010, 09:27 PM
Cheers Ol' Fart, its good to have a warning of the dangers of doing such thing's DIY, Having done it myself with a qualified mechanic present I acknowledge what you have said and stick by my earlier comments in this thread.

Thats wot madmagna was on about.

Sure theres lots of jobs that the homie can do...you should see my toolshed :woot: , the problem is if you tell people they can do a job without adequately warning of the dangers, you risk that persons safety if the shit hits the fan.

People come for advice on here and a well meaning comment can have ramifications well beyond what you might realize.

Madmagna is trained, experienced and skilled and has probably seen the results when things go wrong.

He isnt tryin to make a buck from someone 2 states away, he is trying to make sure that advice on here contains all the relevant information.

Lets not get personal here guys, lets just help people who ask the questions, especially when its your field of expertese.

I never make comment on sound systems because im tone deaf and my 78's skip in the car, its not my field.

Mechanics is Madmagna's ........................... bit of credit....mmkay :happy:

Madmagna
05-03-2010, 09:45 PM
Its ok, he is doing this to scare people off DIY so they can go to him and earn money off it. Dont have the quote as it was deleted but before he said he charges $200 to do it, being $100 cheaper than a workshop. Conflict of interest I say.

I deleted my last post because I thought better but here goes

What conflict of interest, I am a freaking sponsor.

i am a registered business, I am also a sponsor, you know, one of these guys who pays to keep these forums going

before you go making accuastions etc, think,. if that is not too much to ask

As for you accusation about trying to scare someone off, go and do them yourself, when you rip your freakin head off I will simply sit here and laugh and state I told you so

Oh, I have undeleted the other post are you happy now precious.....

ts3.0
06-03-2010, 04:58 AM
Good for you that you charge people to do it, I was just agreeing that it can safely be done at home for free with some common sense, If you could read i said multiple times I have done it myself, and due to correct procedure I had no issues same way as 99% of people who have done it before and after me. No need to be a dick about it mate, you are only voice of the people here, not God.

Madmagna
06-03-2010, 05:48 AM
As I stated in a PM to another member


I know many have done the job but lets be realistic here. There are some mods that should not be done if you have to ask the question "how do I..."

Steering, brakes and suspension being them. You do not get a second chance with either of these 3 things. If you need to ask the question you need to get someone skilled to actually show you, not tell you on a forum.

I am wondering if you can actually make a post ts3.0 without calling names bud, I guess not.

If you guys are going to do this just PLEASE make sure you get GOOD QUALITY compressors. DO NOT use a rattle gun on the comressors, TAKE YOUR TIME, and try and have someone who has done this with you to assist.

These are damned dangerous on the fronts of a Magna as are under extreme pressure. The rears can be dangerous but are not quite as bad.

MadMax
06-03-2010, 05:51 AM
Think twice, think safety, live to spanner another day - that's my motto. That, and reading the manual and using a torque wrench where ever possible . . . lol

When I use a set of spring compressors on a front strut, I tighten them evenly and slowly just enough to take the pressure off the top. When that is off, I release the compressors slowly and evenly. Worked for me so far.