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Mikey380sx
10-03-2010, 02:58 PM
Checked the dipstick 5,000km after a service and it was a bit down so I topped it up...just checked 2k off its next service and it was halfway between full and low. Fantastic, the old girl is slurpin a bit of oil...anybody else having similar scenarios?

kewefella
10-03-2010, 03:47 PM
I always find by the time I get to the 10,000km mark it needs a bit and I always check it after an oil change and the garage has it bang up to the full mark, figure it uses a bit as the oil get older. Over 115,000km now and never had any smoke or signs of trouble, and the galant I had previous did the same so never get too stressed about it.

MCHenry
10-03-2010, 03:56 PM
I used nearly 6 liters of oil when I did two trips from QLD to SA.

Mikey380sx
10-03-2010, 03:59 PM
I used nearly 6 liters of oil when I did two trips from QLD to SA.

:eek2:.....How many kays has your car done MCHenry?

Mecha-wombat
10-03-2010, 04:03 PM
TBH I change mine every 7500 no loss of oil

kewefella
10-03-2010, 04:06 PM
I was once given a reason that short running causes a bit of condensation to build up in the motor and when giving it a decent run the vapour takes a bit of oil with it but I'm not sure how true that is.

MCHenry
10-03-2010, 04:10 PM
:eek2:.....How many kays has your car done MCHenry?

Close to 80k now....not to bad since we have now had it for 3yrs since new.

Blackstar
10-03-2010, 04:11 PM
Hard to tell how much is left on mine, unless under a strong light

(LPG doesnt blacken the oil at all.)

TJTime
10-03-2010, 04:40 PM
Wtf? why are your engines consuming oil??

MCHenry
10-03-2010, 05:00 PM
I dont think mine is "consuming" oil, just burning it off with having it high in the rev range for such a long period of time.

Boozer
10-03-2010, 05:32 PM
how hard do you drive your car???

chairXhat
10-03-2010, 05:44 PM
how hard do you drive your car???

my guess is VERY. mine hasn't used very much oil at all since last service (2-3months back) but I'm a pretty cruise-y driver.

TFmag
10-03-2010, 05:49 PM
iv had the same problem i had to add 1L after 5000km.i had been driving my car like a idiot, so lately iv been driving like a grandma and seeing if this makes any difference :)

Mikey380sx
10-03-2010, 05:52 PM
how hard do you drive your car???


my guess is VERY. mine hasn't used very much oil at all since last service (2-3months back) but I'm a pretty cruise-y driver.

Drove it enthusiastically when I bought it, has a fairly easy life as of late though. But certainly not babied. I might start servicing it more frequently i.e 5-7,500km instead of 10,000km. I do a lot of range driving too so it does sit at higher revs a fair bit, not sure if that contributes

Blackstar
10-03-2010, 06:51 PM
All engines use oil.

As long as they don't run out between services it's not really a problem.

Dave
10-03-2010, 07:32 PM
All engines use oil.

As long as they don't run out between services it's not really a problem.

mate come on, there i using oil, then USING oil. 2 trips between QLD and SA shouldn't use 6 ltrtes of oil.

If an A380 can get from London to Sydney and use 500ml of coolant oil for all 4 engines then I gotta say 6 ltrs for an automotive engine between QLD and SA twice is a crap load. Am i right?

Edit: mine used between the full marker and the half-way marker in 8000km's.

Dave
10-03-2010, 07:33 PM
I was once given a reason that short running causes a bit of condensation to build up in the motor and when giving it a decent run the vapour takes a bit of oil with it but I'm not sure how true that is.

depends on the oil type, semi synthetic and normal oil have natural minerals in them that lead to moisture build up over time. Fully synth doesnt allow this so it is more apparent that oil is being used

Blackstar
10-03-2010, 07:54 PM
mate come on, there is using oil, then USING oil. 2 trips between QLD and SA shouldn't use 6 ltrtes of oil.

If an A380 can get from London to Sydney and use 500ml of coolant oil for all 4 engines then I gotta say 6 ltrs for an automotive engine between QLD and SA twice is a crap load. Am i right?

Edit: mine used between the full marker and the half-way marker in 8000km's.



Sounds like alot...but...

If he added 6 litres of oil then he still had 4 left?

Therefore he didn't necessarily use all 6 litres now did he?

Bet he also didn't start off with the full 4 litres...:)

burfadel
11-03-2010, 05:50 AM
Were you driving in 2nd gear all the way?!! What type of oil do you use?

Dave
11-03-2010, 05:54 AM
Sounds like alot...but...

If he added 6 litres of oil then he still had 4 left?

Therefore he didn't necessarily use all 6 litres now did he?

Bet he also didn't start off with the full 4 litres...:)

pretty sure the 6G75 holds the same amount of oil as a 6G74, around the 4.5 litre mark so not sure what angle you are coming from there. I would be interested to see if any other 380 owners are topping up the oil as much as this. Does seem to be quite a bit of consumption.

chrisv
11-03-2010, 05:59 AM
pretty sure the 6G75 holds the same amount of oil as a 6G74, around the 4.5 litre mark so not sure what angle you are coming from there. I would be interested to see if any other 380 owners are topping up the oil as much as this. Does seem to be quite a bit of consumption.
I have lots of short runs and change my oil every 5000k.
Never needs topping up

Blue 380
11-03-2010, 06:11 AM
I change mine every 7500kms as its mostly short trips and it never needs topping up.

I remember Alan J one wrote all engines use oil. The ones that dont need topping up have accumulated moisture so the dip-stick reads full.

Mikey380sx
11-03-2010, 06:38 AM
I change mine every 7500kms as its mostly short trips and it never needs topping up.

I remember Alan J one wrote all engines use oil. The ones that dont need topping up have accumulated moisture so the dip-stick reads full.

so it is almost a good sign that im using oil? :roflwtf:

BradGT
11-03-2010, 08:32 AM
i check my 380 fluids and tyre pressures fortnightly , never used a drop.

mike481050
11-03-2010, 10:50 AM
Serviced every 15000klms.

Up to 10000 klms no noticible oil use.

10000 to 15000 klms uses around quarter to half a litre.

Not enough to top up or be concerned about.

Previous vehicle KL Verada Gtvi was exactly the same in its oil useage.

All engines use some oil with the amount dependent on time between oil changes, loading and heat cycles.

Mike

kewefella
11-03-2010, 03:22 PM
Serviced every 15000klms.

Up to 10000 klms no noticible oil use.

10000 to 15000 klms uses around quarter to half a litre.

Not enough to top up or be concerned about.



Mine is basically the same as this, its the last 5000km when its getting a bit dirty that it uses a bit, only topped it up once cause I was going for a long drive and thought better safe than sorry.

Knotched
11-03-2010, 03:45 PM
Serviced every 15000klms.

Up to 10000 klms no noticible oil use.

10000 to 15000 klms uses around quarter to half a litre.

Not enough to top up or be concerned about.

Previous vehicle KL Verada Gtvi was exactly the same in its oil useage.

All engines use some oil with the amount dependent on time between oil changes, loading and heat cycles.

Mike

:stoopid:

I had a KE and it used about 1/2 L every service interval.

So far I've had to top up the 380 once, and that was after hard driving. It's done 112 000km now.

MadMax
11-03-2010, 06:22 PM
All engines use oil. Around town you don't notice, because condensation compensates. I know someone who used to change the oil in his BSA motorcycle then boil the sump oil on the kitchen stove just to see how much the engine burnt. If you have old oil and go for a long, high speed drive in hot weather you can easily drop off the dipstick in less that 1,000 km. Best to change the oil and filter before a long trip, or check oil level at the start and stop at 500 km just to estimate how much oil the engine burns. Variables include engine age, valve stem oil seal condition, valve guide clearance, engine load and rpm, and oil type/brand used.
My V6 TS at 230,000 km uses no oil in 5,000 km around town, but I would stop and check after 100 km if I did a decent run at 110 km. In the (good) old days, before self service, the grease monkey who filled your tank would also check the oil. Still a good habit, check every time you set out to get gas.

MCHenry
11-03-2010, 07:08 PM
mate come on, there i using oil, then USING oil. 2 trips between QLD and SA shouldn't use 6 ltrtes of oil.

If an A380 can get from London to Sydney and use 500ml of coolant oil for all 4 engines then I gotta say 6 ltrs for an automotive engine between QLD and SA twice is a crap load. Am i right?

Edit: mine used between the full marker and the half-way marker in 8000km's.
I have found that on long trips at a constant 110kms we are using more oil than normal.


Sounds like alot...but...

If he added 6 litres of oil then he still had 4 left?

Therefore he didn't necessarily use all 6 litres now did he?

Bet he also didn't start off with the full 4 litres...:)

I do use a FULLY synthetic oil, Nulon to be precise. As you said Blackstar, I added approx 5.5 liters of oil, so in all reality I probably only went through 4-5 liters.

witewalzs
11-03-2010, 08:26 PM
Funny you mentioned this Mikey as I got quite a shock myself just the other day when checking the oil and only seeing a drop on the end of the dipstick! Reckon its used a couple of litres since its last service with the next due in 2K at 75,000. Got a truck with nearly 600K on it and it doesn't use as much as the 380! Got a bit slack checking as i don't drive it that much these days,Guess I need to change that!

Mikey380sx
11-03-2010, 08:48 PM
Funny you mentioned this Mikey as I got quite a shock myself just the other day when checking the oil and only seeing a drop on the end of the dipstick! Reckon its used a couple of litres since its last service with the next due in 2K at 75,000. Got a truck with nearly 600K on it and it doesn't use as much as the 380! Got a bit slack checking as i don't drive it that much these days,Guess I need to change that!

It suprised me too, it hadn't used that much before during services but this time it just seemed to use a hell of a lot more...but i did do a 360km loop to play some putt putt the other night so that might have something to do with it lol

MadMax
12-03-2010, 07:47 AM
The moral of the story is - check your oil level often! Don't go on past experience, especially if doing extended open road driving. The 3.5 and 3.8L engines seem to get to a point where they suddenly start using oil. A co-worker complained that her 3rd gen oil light kept flashing on, when going around corners. The person who topped it up (not me) said the engine took 4 litres! The car was offered to me for $2.5K, much later, but I declined. (I wonder why? lol)

MadMax
12-03-2010, 07:56 AM
If you really are concerned about the oil level dropping off the dip stick, it is ok to fill the sump a cm or so above the full mark when you top it up. Simple insurance.

MadMax
12-03-2010, 08:08 AM
If someone with a 380 still under warranty concerned about oil consumption contacts Mitsu, we could all find out what Mitsu feels is an acceptable level of consumption . . . . .

Dave
12-03-2010, 08:45 AM
The moral of the story is - check your oil level often! Don't go on past experience, especially if doing extended open road driving. The 3.5 and 3.8L engines seem to get to a point where they suddenly start using oil. A co-worker complained that her 3rd gen oil light kept flashing on, when going around corners. The person who topped it up (not me) said the engine took 4 litres! The car was offered to me for $2.5K, much later, but I declined. (I wonder why? lol)

Mine is 8 years old and nearly 150000kms with mixture of short trips and long distance and I hardly ever have to top it up so oil consumption isn't a problem with all of them. eThe previously mentioned consumption is excessive

Knotched
12-03-2010, 08:56 AM
If someone with a 380 still under warranty concerned about oil consumption contacts Mitsu, we could all find out what Mitsu feels is an acceptable level of consumption . . . . .

I don't think it is any different to the 6G74.

Some cars (380s) will use more oil some less. It would be worth McHenry to take it to the dealer. I wouldn't find that consumption acceptable and I do 700km every week with no top ups required.

auspest
12-03-2010, 10:17 AM
150 000 on mine and i didnt use a lot of oil between services.

TreeAdeyMan
12-03-2010, 05:57 PM
I use about 2 litres in top ups every 15,000k. Since I switched to Mobil 1 and change the oil every 15,000k at service time rather than roughly every 10,000k. Mixture of around 75% city and 25% country driving. But come to think of it I was using around a litre in top ups every 10,000k before that anyway.

KJ.

White
12-03-2010, 06:24 PM
dont notice this as i change oil every 5k km religously.

Boozer
12-03-2010, 06:31 PM
got no problem with mobil 1 (5w-30) in my motor with 114000km... did the drive to qld from melb, just about a non-stop (apart from fuel) and its barely moved on the dip stick when i returned to melb... from memory anyway but I have the car serviced every 7500km

Mecha-wombat
12-03-2010, 06:50 PM
I change at 7500 intervals

might push it out when I put the mobil 1 in

I have not seen a increase in oil usage but I many drive urban

MCHenry
13-03-2010, 08:16 PM
I don't think it is any different to the 6G74.

Some cars (380s) will use more oil some less. It would be worth McHenry to take it to the dealer. I wouldn't find that consumption acceptable and I do 700km every week with no top ups required.

Actually Knotched I took it probably round 60000kms when I noticed she was using more oil than what I thought was acceptable, but was told that it was nothing to worry about. If I have to fill up every 1-2 weeks and blue smoke exits the exhaust then yes I should come back. But the car gets serviced every 10000kms and I have never had the mechanic say anything. Oh wells.

Knotched
14-03-2010, 05:09 AM
I suppose if they have looked at it and determined it's not burning due valve guide wear, etc, and there's no no oil smoke stain around your exhaust...:confused: :eh:

trex101
14-03-2010, 08:03 AM
I got no oil consumption at all on my 95k km 380.

Could be because of the engine oil used, I'm using a fully syn oil with very low Noack Volatility, 6.9%
Maybe those engine that consume oil should try some other engine oil with low Noack% value.

quote: Wikipedia
The NOACK Volatility Test, otherwise known as ASTM D-5800, determines the evaporation loss of lubricants in high-temperature service. The more motor oils vaporize, the thicker and heavier they become, contributing to poor circulation, reduced fuel economy and increased oil consumption, wear and emissions.

genebaby
15-03-2010, 06:44 PM
Mine gets it's oil changed every 7500k and nobody has ever said anything about oil consumption. I think I better start checking it to see what's going on in there.

Mecha-wombat
15-03-2010, 06:52 PM
If you are going the full 15k kms interval you should see oil use

I have seen oil use all my cars when service intervals are 10k as well

Cars use oil

BongoKongo
18-03-2010, 06:04 AM
If I change it myself mine never uses a drop going by the Dipstick.
But I always fill it so it is close to the MAX Full mark (takes About 4.3 Ltrs)

After Mitsubishi do a service the oil is always midway between the Max & Add marks on the Dipstick.
So if I am putting in the required amount of about 4.3 liters (with Filter) and it shows at the MAX mark on the dipstick
then how much less must the dealer be putting in it if it reads only half way when they do it.

MadMax
25-03-2010, 06:25 AM
Bongo, that's somewhere between a quarter to half a litre of oil. Not much, but if they do 100 oil changes it adds up to a solid saving for them. Ask them what oil they use, buy some, and add. Maybe check the level after the next dealer change and complain?

trex101
25-03-2010, 06:34 AM
If you are going the full 15k kms interval you should see oil use

I have seen oil use all my cars when service intervals are 10k as well

Cars use oil

Just did my engine & transmission oil change last night and found that my oil filter(Purolator) is wet with oil, not leaking but wet. Anyway, do check your oil filter if you find any oil consumption on your 380, it could be leaking from there.
Purolator is crap.... don't use it.

GT Guy
26-03-2010, 05:01 PM
Mine doesn't use a drop - the dipstick is still on the full mark from the last service. Done 13,000 k's since October.

98SPORT
29-03-2010, 06:15 PM
If you have changed brands it takes about 3 oil changes to settledown,if you using MAG-----,take your oil filter cap off if the rocker gear is dirty brown(should be an oily mettalic clean colour),change your brand,and flush it.