Theres heaps of info for and against the HHO SYSTEMS on cars. I just want to know - 30% more power sounds reasonable from hydrogen as its highly combustible very unstable - Does anyone or has anyone tried any system like the HHO system on anything?

i would like to be PRO hho but im a realist

Under no circumstances should you build/buy one of these hho systems and think you will get a gain of any sort. More then likely you will end up with a nett loss.

If you are into experimenting then yes, they are a worthy and vast area of knowledge to grasp and would be very interesting, and who knows, you may just be the next stan meyer; only living.

To date the "best" know proven result was a Petrol 240 generator run where it produced hho and refed it into the intake and didnt have a loss of efficency. Thats the best known evidence to date; breaking even. There are many who suggest HHO does other things then just go bang and help with better ecconomy. They suggest it also helps clean the combustion chamber (this may be true as inducting water vapour into the intake does a very good job of cleaning the combustion chamber as steam is very abrassive) They also say that you can run cheaper/crapper fuel on a PULP car with hho and it runs the same. Dont know if this has been proven. I doubt it honestly.

DO some research, you will find all these sytems saying get a million HP just pay us 247US and tadaaaaa. You will be broke before you found one that did as it stated. Or dead

Youtube has about a millino years worth of vids on this topic. Ive played around with this on and off for a while, but its just like permanent magnet motors, fun to look at and play with but no real world application

H^2 on the other ahnd as found in bowsers in the US and Europe are compressed Hydrogen and for use only on Hydrogen fuel cell cars. HHO or brown gas is simply that, water broken down into its smallest elements and as such is very unstable/unsafe to compress

lol yea noway id try it on my car... just curious to c wat ppl on this forum think.. :) thanks heaps for that though :) so true.

i did some work with it and have the scars to prove it (cell went bang).
biggest problem with HHO production is that it is highly flammable and odourless.
browns gas will provide a smoother combustion of the air fuel mix and hence allow for the use of lower octane fuels.
other problems associated with on vehicle production is the removal of the caustic fumes from the gas and providing flash back protection, and even then there is the risk of hydrogen fatigue in the engine.

HHO is best used in cutting/welding applications and specific machines have already been developed for this task... distilled water is converted into browns gas then ignited much the same way as oxy-acetelyne... difference being that it only produces water vapour as a by product.

My brother in law was sucked in and payed $990 NZ to a US guy, he received A pvc tube, wire, the electrodes and not much else. it also had a disclaimer that they were not responsible for damage caused. It made no difference to his Toyota levin GT Apex (4AGE) that could be felt or measured . Im open to a new technology but this was snake oil. It actually had in the manual that on toyota engines, unless the O2 sensor was modified , the increase in oxygen in the exhaust would make the ecu richen the mixture and INCREASE fuel use lol

for arguments sake, it is believed that you need roughly 10L / Minute of HHO or brown gas PER LITRE OF ENGINE DISPLACEMENT. THis will allow normal operation of the engine from idle to high rpm. THe best systems out there have only been proven to produce 5ml of gas per minute per watt, or for those familiar with the acronym 5mmw.

to work that out, 10000ml per minute requires 2000watts of power on a 5mmw cell. At 12 volt (being in a car) thats 170amp draw on the battery/alternator. OUr Verada alternators are only rated to 90amp and also require 3 tims asmuch. This also doesnt take into account that cells have to be designed for an ooperating range of amps to keep heat down (not to boil the water) in which case most cells drop effiency down to 2 and 3mmw, which means more amps, which means more deminsihing returns/

I would love for this to be a reality, but whether by design or luck it isnt and its just not meant to be