Hi all. I have just completed installing a blackout cluster from a KJ series 2 into my TJ series 2. For those of you who are considering this swap, as suggested by others it is only a plug and play. All the warning lights operate as normal all though they are located in a different position. The gear indicator (Auto) even though it is a five speed from the Verada only lights up to 4. Number 5 is not used. Just thought i would post this for anyone that is "thinking" about it. And the finished product ???? IT LOOKS AWESOME.

how to you go about the legalities of it, meaning the odometer reading can you go to a mitsu dealer and can the change the odo on the cluster to match your car???, or does the odo just read out the information produced from the ECU so no matter what odo you have (only electronic) the odo reading will stay the same...

how to you go about the legalities of it, meaning the odometer reading can you go to a mitsu dealer and can the change the odo on the cluster to match your car???, or does the odo just read out the information produced from the ECU so no matter what odo you have (only electronic) the odo reading will stay the same...

Fairly sure there is no obligation to keep a correct odometer unless you're going to claim (upon selling/RWC) that they are genuine k's shown on the readout.

odo is stored on the cluster, when you swap over just write on top of it what the original KM's of the car were and what the odo of the new one is, that way if you ever forget it's written down.

but what im asking is there a way to change the stored ODO so when i sell the car it does not seem dodgy....

Not unless you want to start learning micro controller code, MadMagna might be able to help you out as he has a Mut-2 tool but I am unsure even if this would allow you to change it.

well madmagna if you read this, is i possible to change the odo reading on a cluster legally through mitsu or someone else

there is some sort of tool available on the net that can change the odo reading. in japan it used to be widespread illegal practice to wind back a cars odo before used cars went through the auction / export process.
this is referred to as a "haircut"

this tool sits across the eeprom storing the odo reading and allows you to change reading. the dash cluster has to come out first.

never seen it done for myself but many imports have the magical 66,000 klm on the speedo.

i imagine it would be able to be done on an older one with an anlalog odo??? such as kj1???? i have just purchased one and was wondering the same thing.... except i actually want to go forward so i dun have to have trouble maintaining my service record......

Can be done with an analog speedo, but you need to be careful. Remove the speedo and disassemble it. The little wheels that show the numbers can be turned, but you need to do this carefully, as not to damage the little arms that move the wheels normally. If I remember correctly, going forward to a higher reading is easier than going back. Good luck, but I would just keep the lower number and tell no one, except write down the difference on your service record. lol

Did this myself - years ago - and rewound the speedo back to zero, just for my own satisfaction. It's legally a no-no, but the car eventually went to the wreckers, with (another) blown motor. Yes it was a Mitsu.

i would have thought there would be a less risky way to wind an analog forward....... what if you put the car on a hoist and rev the crap out of it in drive surely that would wind it pretty damn quick..... lol would be alot of fun tooooo.........

It would also cause a lot of wear and use petrol. Say you get it up to 210, the ECU limit and you want to go forward 15,000KM's it would take you 72 hours, fuel usage would probably be pretty low.

i wasnt really being serious with that comment... just thought it'd be a funny idea........

Better idea to get a high speed drill and put the speedo line into it, just like they do on matilda. (it only works for going forward though remember)

You'd think there would be a battery in the TJ2+ clusters that stores the info. Pull it/desolder it and it'll clear. I'm installing a KW cluster into my TJ AWD, and the KW cluster has 30k less than my TJ one. Would be nice to match up the odo's. Maybe a frequency generator and an oscilloscope and a whole heap of other crap and you could do something.

Better idea to get a high speed drill and put the speedo line into it, just like they do on matilda. (it only works for going forward though remember)

who needs a drill when you can use a flat head screw driver :ninja:

Success. The KW FWD cluster works in my TJ2 AWD. KM's are only out by 10k but I might take it to mitsu and have it reprogrammed to match my real KM's.

Only thing I'm not sure about is sedan and wagon selection which is what I'm getting with the KW. The AWD cluster gave me the 4d option which I what I would prefer where as the KW one doesn't. What does the sedan/wagon and 4d options actually do? Haven't moved the car yet on the account I broke the little white rod that you use to change the gears on the auto.

The sedan and wagon options are for setting the trip computer variables. Sedan programming will be different to the wagon etc. Your 4d option is for all wheel drive (4drive) and the program in the trip computer will be different for AWD cars.

In the earlier models, the trip computers also allowed selection of 3.0 & 3.5 for the engine size too.

Hi all. I have just completed installing a blackout cluster from a KJ series 2 into my TJ series 2. For those of you who are considering this swap, as suggested by others it is only a plug and play. All the warning lights operate as normal all though they are located in a different position. The gear indicator (Auto) even though it is a five speed from the Verada only lights up to 4. Number 5 is not used. Just thought i would post this for anyone that is "thinking" about it. And the finished product ???? IT LOOKS AWESOME.

Im hearing all about these blackout dashes and they sound pretty cool...any pictures or videos floating around, and where can i get one? etc :)

Thanks guys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Sotoyn1jI

So what parts are needed to convert to the blackout cluster in a TJ2 - the actual cluster and what else ?

A phillips head screwdriver. That is all. Undo screws that hold cluster surround and then undo 4 screws, remove cluster, plug blackout cluster in, put surround back on and ENJOY!!!!!

It was plug and play for me on a TJMY02. No loom replacement whatsoever.

When I installed mine about two weeks ago, I went down the slightly more expensive path and had the odometer on the black-out cluster adjusted so it displayed the same k’s as my old cluster. (the cluster I bought had 112,000 more kilometres than my car had)

I think it was well worth it. It saves all of the confusion and raised eyebrows when you go to have the car serviced or eventually sell it and there are discrepancies between the logbook and the odometer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Sotoyn1jI

THATS INSANE!!! Where can i get one ;) haha

THATS INSANE!!! Where can i get one ;) haha

Where abouts in nsw are you from. You could always try eBay or post a wtb thread

Where abouts in nsw are you from. You could always try eBay or post a wtb thread

Yeah that's very true, im in Sydney....Bass Hill to be exact.... :)

What model/s had the blackout cluster fitted to them as standard equipment?? And would such a cluster "plug and play" into a TH??

I have in stock a series 1 cluster out of a KJ, this will plug into any TE-series 1 J with an upper loom change, the change is fiddly with dash in but can be done no worries. These come with loom as well as trip comp and facia with the buttons.

To install into a series 1.5 or earlier of J series it does require upper loom change. To install a KLII or later into a series II or later is simply plug in and drive away if that makes sense

So if i have a TJ2 Ralliart, which car would i be looking to get a Blackout cluster from so it is a plug and play ?

A KJ II, KL or KW will be plug and play for you.

Would TJII be plug in and drive away (VR-X)

If your VRX is a series 2 then KJ II, KL and KW will just plug in

I have a KF verada? Possible to put blackout cluster in? If so from what models and whats involved?

Cheers