ive done a quick search nothing really came up.

ive gotta get a set of tyres soon. i wont be useing the car as a daily anymore so im thinking of getting some semi slicks. i was just after peoples opinions of what to get and if you can get them in 19".

any help appreciated. cheers

The whole idea of using a racing tyre is that they are coupled with a suitably lightweight (and wide if possible) wheel. You'll see better results if you get yourself a set of say, Ralliart Enkei's, and equip them with some T888's.

T888's are available in 19" if you're going to go that way.

The OEM ralliart enkei's aren't especially light, as they are just a regular cast rim. Also I think you mean Toyo R888, which is an R-compound semi-slick.

OP, if you want a proper answer can you give us some more information about the car, it's uses and why you interested in running semis? Yes of course you can get R-compound tyres in 19", but they aren't gonna be cheap...

If you want a performance street tyre that has a semi-slick-like tread pattern, there are ones such the Kumho KU36 and Falken RT615.

True R-compound semi-slick tyres are expensive, wear extremely fast on the road, noisey, often not great in the wet and don't really grip better than a good street tyre until they are up to operating temp. Essential if you are remotely serious about trackwork, but generally not used on the road...

I've tried a few few of the popular semis. Bridgestone RE55s are probably the pick of the bunch in terms of chasing best lap times, but are expensive. Toyo R888 are a bit slower but also a fair bit cheaper, and seem to be more resistant to heat cycles.

i used to have the kumho ku36 on my verada. When cold, the grip was below average, once warmed up, they would stick like nothing else. I used to find on good mountain runs, i could easily hold 15-20% more speed through the corners than with my previous maxxis maz1's. Were the maxxis had a known limit though, where you get to that point where you can feel the back starting to step out, i was never able to find that on the kumho's.

In 19" though, you are looking at either a 285/35/19 or 345/30/19. So probably not the best for the magna. Is changing to a smaller rim size possible?

EDIT: There is also some more info on slick & semi tyres in the 380 forums in the "what tyres do you run" thread.

get yourself some bridgestone potenzas adrenaline reoo1, not a true semi slick but near enuff.... and are not as expensive as a semi slick

http://www.bridgestone.com.au/lib/images/treads/threequarter/Adrenalin_RE001.jpg

19" semis :nuts:

get yourself some bridgestone potenzas adrenaline reoo1, not a true semi slick but near enuff.... and are not as expensive as a semi slick

http://www.bridgestone.com.au/lib/images/treads/threequarter/Adrenalin_RE001.jpg

Look, RE001s are NOTHING like an R-compound semi-slick, I really don't know why I keep hearing people make this comparison. And yes I have driven on both adrenalins and a bunch of different semi-slicks.


i used to have the kumho ku36 on my verada. When cold, the grip was below average, once warmed up, they would stick like nothing else.changing to a smaller rim size possible?

EDIT: There is also some more info on slick & semi tyres in the 380 forums in the "what tyres do you run" thread.

I currently have KU36s as my street tyres, I can't say I agree with you about them being temp-sensitive grip-wise, though they do seem quite resistant to over-heating for a street tyre.

I agree that they are definantely a better tyre than the MA-Z1.

And yes running 19" semis is incredibly expensive and pointless.

get yourself some bridgestone potenzas adrenaline reoo1, not a true semi slick but near enuff.... and are not as expensive as a semi slick

http://www.bridgestone.com.au/lib/images/treads/threequarter/Adrenalin_RE001.jpg
$339 per tyre for an 18"? You can get ku36 for around $200 each.


Forgot to mention, i got 15,000km out of mine before i sold the car. They probably still had around 5-10k left in them.

The OEM ralliart enkei's aren't especially light, as they are just a regular cast rim. Also I think you mean Toyo R888, which is an R-compound semi-slick.

OP, if you want a proper answer can you give us some more information about the car, it's uses and why you interested in running semis? Yes of course you can get R-compound tyres in 19", but they aren't gonna be cheap...

If you want a performance street tyre that has a semi-slick-like tread pattern, there are ones such the Kumho KU36 and Falken RT615.

True R-compound semi-slick tyres are expensive, wear extremely fast on the road, noisey, often not great in the wet and don't really grip better than a good street tyre until they are up to operating temp. Essential if you are remotely serious about trackwork, but generally not used on the road...

I've tried a few few of the popular semis. Bridgestone RE55s are probably the pick of the bunch in terms of chasing best lap times, but are expensive. Toyo R888 are a bit slower but also a fair bit cheaper, and seem to be more resistant to heat cycles.

basically im after something that sticks like shit to a blanket but is good in the wet as most of the time its gonna be used in the hills. possibly doing some track/hill climbs. dont really want to get another set of rims.

EDIT: also something that doesnt need warming up.

get yourself some bridgestone potenzas adrenaline reoo1, not a true semi slick but near enuff.... and are not as expensive as a semi slick

http://www.bridgestone.com.au/lib/images/treads/threequarter/Adrenalin_RE001.jpgBarely any better than my Kumho KU31s.

if you want something that's good in the wet, I wouldn't go with a semi slick. unless they're really high silica/soft compound they will aquaplane worse than any reasonable high performance street tyre, and if they're soft compound you're going to chew them up in the dry.

I would really recommend getting a reasonable set of high performance street tyre on the 19s and getting another set of rims (17"s would be my choice for range and $$ of semi slick) so you can swap them over as the weather permits.

road tyres I have used:

Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001s - I like, grippy wet and dry, high mileage (+40k km), expensive
Bridgestone Potenza Grid IIIs - I like, a bit less grip than RE001s, unfortunately not made anymore
Falken 452s - I dis-like, fairly grippy in the dry, not so good in the wet, low, low mileage (10k km), cheapish
Kumho KU36s - I like, very grippy in the dry, reasonable in the wet, medium mileage (about 10k and still 50% left), cheap.

semi slicks I have used:

Kumho v700 (or v70a) - medium compound fairly durable, very grippy in the dry, but I wouldn't trust them in the wet.
Kumho V700 (or v70a) - soft compound, not durable at all. lasted 1 day at Wakefield. very, very grippy. probably would have lasted longer with a better suspension setup.
Bridgestone RE55S SR2 - used these for a couple of meets (one hillclimb, one Wakefield day). very nice once warm, unpredictable until then. fairly durable, didn't use them wet, but I've seen Dan's car do wet skidpan work with them.
Kumho v710 - DOT approved slick, but wouldn't want to be pulled over! dry grip for days, useless in the wet. yet to see durability, but treadwear of 30 can't provide too many kms.

hope that helps.

cheers,
.wook

if you want something that's good in the wet, I wouldn't go with a semi slick. unless they're really high silica/soft compound they will aquaplane worse than any reasonable high performance street tyre, and if they're soft compound you're going to chew them up in the dry.

I would really recommend getting a reasonable set of high performance street tyre on the 19s and getting another set of rims (17"s would be my choice for range and $$ of semi slick) so you can swap them over as the weather permits.

road tyres I have used:

Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001s - I like, grippy wet and dry, high mileage (+40k km), expensive
Bridgestone Potenza Grid IIIs - I like, a bit less grip than RE001s, unfortunately not made anymore
Falken 452s - I dis-like, fairly grippy in the dry, not so good in the wet, low, low mileage (10k km), cheapish
Kumho KU36s - I like, very grippy in the dry, reasonable in the wet, medium mileage (about 10k and still 50% left), cheap.

semi slicks I have used:

Kumho v700 (or v70a) - medium compound fairly durable, very grippy in the dry, but I wouldn't trust them in the wet.
Kumho V700 (or v70a) - soft compound, not durable at all. lasted 1 day at Wakefield. very, very grippy. probably would have lasted longer with a better suspension setup.
Bridgestone RE55S SR2 - used these for a couple of meets (one hillclimb, one Wakefield day). very nice once warm, unpredictable until then. fairly durable, didn't use them wet, but I've seen Dan's car do wet skidpan work with them.
Kumho v710 - DOT approved slick, but wouldn't want to be pulled over! dry grip for days, useless in the wet. yet to see durability, but treadwear of 30 can't provide too many kms.

hope that helps.

cheers,
.wook

cheers mate. hmm might look at getting some new rims then. so youde recommend the reoo1s

cheers mate. hmm might look at getting some new rims then. so youde recommend the reoo1s

based on wookiee's input.. i'd settle on the RE001s as well for a daily drive road tyre... been looking at tyres recently as well as my current set is nearing the end of their life...

thanks for that wook, this info will come in handy when i replace my tyres later on in the year. Dont mean to steal the thread, but do you think the re001's be a better choice over say the ku36 for an all round tyre? Taking into consideration they are around 50% dearer...

basically im after something that sticks like shit to a blanket but is good in the wet as most of the time its gonna be used in the hills. possibly doing some track/hill climbs. dont really want to get another set of rims.

EDIT: also something that doesnt need warming up.

Then my suggestion is a set of Kumho KU36.

For a street tyre they are excellent in the dry, and competent in the wet. They work fine cold and seem quite resistant to overheating when pushed hard.

The KU36 also seems to have a very stiff sidewall for a street tyre, which will serve you well for hill runs and when you are starting out with trackwork/hill climbs.

I think KU36 would be the best good compromise for what you want. After some track experience if you find you are getting more serious about it, then it's time to look at a 2nd set of rims + semis, better brakes and suspension.

I paid around $600 or a tad over for a set of 4 in 235/45/17 not too long ago. Amazing/unbeatable for that pricerange in every way IMO.

Then my suggestion is a set of Kumho KU36 then.

For a street tyre they are excellent in the dry, and competent in the wet. They work fine cold and seem quite resistant to overheating when pushed hard.

The KU36 also seems to have a very stiff sidewall for a street tyre, which will serve you well for hill runs and will serve you well if you are starting out with trackwork/hill climbs.

cheers guys. ill look into both the re001s and the ku36.

Dan, You've seen my RE001's. If you recall our Port Elliot trip, our cruise started on wet road...was very slippery in the wet, however on the dry road later in the day, I had no probs keeping up with everyone else (incl Zero's AWD). They are average in the wet, but lots of grip in the dry, and generally a good all round performer....not cheap, I think I paid something like over $250 per corner.

Dan, You've seen my RE001's. If you recall our Port Elliot trip, our cruise started on wet road...was very slippery in the wet, however on the dry road later in the day, I had no probs keeping up with everyone else (incl Zero's AWD). They are average in the wet, but lots of grip in the dry, and generally a good all round performer....not cheap, I think I paid something like over $250 per corner.

are you coming wednsday night?

Nope....I booked a meeting that I cant back out of...;(

Nope....I booked a meeting that I cant back out of...;(

ok. ill look at em next time i see you.

not cheap, I think I paid something like over $250 per corner.

And that's why I don't see the value in the Adrenalins. They are a good street tyre, but the KU36 are just as good if not better at nearly half the cost.

AD07's & AD08's.....are they semi-slicks?

What are peoples thoughts, as I have heard they are really good - and have been in a car with AD07's and they surprised me HUGELY.

AD07's & AD08's.....are they semi-slicks?



No, they are not an R-compound semi slick. They have a semi-slick-esque tread pattern, but the compound used is that of a street tyre.

Other examples of such tyres are the aforementioned Kumho KU36, Federal RSR, Falken RT615 etc. I call them fake semi-slicks, I think they are delibrately designed to look like semi-slicks to confuse less-informed buyers.

No, they are not an R-compound semi slick. They have a semi-slick-esque tread pattern, but the compound used is that of a street tyre.

Other examples of such tyres are the aforementioned Kumho KU36, Federal RSR, Falken RT615 etc. I call them fake semi-slicks, I think they are delibrately designed to look like semi-slicks to confuse less-informed buyers.

Cheers,

Still a decent tyre none the less.

The difference between AD07/AD08 and the KU36 is the Yokos will perform well in the wet, and won't chop up when heated like the KU36. No doubt the KU36, at their price are a good buy, but you get what you pay for with the Yokos.

I have a set of Michellin Pilot Preceda PP2 on my Evo - $410 a corner. They're rubbish compared to the Yoko AD07 I had previously. My next set of tyres will be 255/35/18 Yoko AD08 without a doubt.

The difference between AD07/AD08 and the KU36 is the Yokos will perform well in the wet, and won't chop up when heated like the KU36. No doubt the KU36, at their price are a good buy, but you get what you pay for with the Yokos.

I have a set of Michellin Pilot Preceda PP2 on my Evo - $410 a corner. They're rubbish compared to the Yoko AD07 I had previously. My next set of tyres will be 255/35/18 Yoko AD08 without a doubt.

What sort of milage did you get out of the AD07's? My Advans are nearly shot & will be due for an upgrade soon.

What sort of milage did you get out of the AD07's? My Advans are nearly shot & will be due for an upgrade soon.

The one on my Evo were nearly shot when I bought it, but the ones on my fiances Ralliart Colt have done 30,000kms. Hers probably have 15,000kms left in them or so, but we'll change them come tax time.

anyone used toyo r1r tyres. got quoted 365 for the ku36 in 245,40,19.

this was a kumho dealer aswell.

he personally recommended the toyo r1r as hes used them and thinks there great.

Have you thought about getting 17's for track type work, hill cruises etc..., and keep your 19's for show only? May work out cheaper in the long run for you.

anyone used toyo r1r tyres. got quoted 365 for the ku36 in 245,40,19.

this was a kumho dealer aswell.

he personally recommended the toyo r1r as hes used them and thinks there great.
hit up these guys for a price on the kumho's

http://www.option1garage.com.au/

was put onto them by my local bob jane manager. He's a good customer of mine, so he put me onto these fella's. He reckons option1 sell for less than what bj pay.