Right before anyone starts yelling search search search at me. I tried but couldn't find what I was after.

Basically, car used to have 20s and has since had 17s put on, camber on my driver side rear is insane, i need it sorted out. Has anyone installed camber kits? What kits did said people use? How much? did it improve handling? and is it work installing a sway bar kit while I'm at it?

Any feedback would be great appreciated guys an girls


cheers
Rhys

you can get spacers put in (basically big wasers) on the rear suspension, this will correct the camber, any suspension place should do it, you will need longer bolts as well, shouldnt take more than 10mins per side, once the wheel is off. you should probably get a wheel alignment done while you have it there.

swaybars are well worth it, but are costly, white line ones used to cost around 180 for the kit. i am not sure if they are still made by whitline anymore, but another company does make them. i am sure someone on here can tell you who.

edit, i just read your profile, being a vrx it should already ha a swaybar installed.

spacers wont work, theres about 4degrees negative camber, its pretty hectic. got a wheel alignment done today, bloke said the only way to get rid of the camber is with a camber kit. can you just by a camber kit for one wheel or is for the whole rear?

in regards to the swaybar i'm saying should i upgrade what i've already got while i'm doing work under there?

cheers for the reply Bellto

why wont spacers work? and i dont think you can get a camber kit for the cabk wheels on a magna, not cheap anyway.

if you can get one, you can get whiteline flat outs swaybars for about 150 if you have a stock one already there. you will probably notice a bit of difference but not dramatic

Spacers, if you mean those that change the track wont affect camber. Spacers in that sense are also illegal. From memory, you can't get rear camber kits for the 3rd gens. You can instead get bigger washers for the upper control arm.
See here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1229021&highlight=Coventry+Fasteners#post1229021).

Did I read rightly that camber is only bad on one wheel? If that's so are u sure nothings bent ?

yeh we checked the other side, and there's a fair bit of toe ware, so we're thinking because the right side is so bad its essentially kicking out the other side. they suggested i fix the camber on the right side to see if it balances out the left, which it should do. i might pop into a suspension place and see what advice they have.

Spacers, if you mean those that change the track wont affect camber. Spacers in that sense are also illegal. From memory, you can't get rear camber kits for the 3rd gens. You can instead get bigger washers for the upper control arm.
See here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1229021&highlight=Coventry+Fasteners#post1229021).

no, not hub spacers, obivously they wont change the camber. you need to put spacers between parts in the suspsnsion components. i have sucesfully done it to mine and then taken it to bjt to get a wheel allignment.

thats all there is to it, unless like cyber said, there is something bent.

if the car is lowered evenly, the camber should be ever. and with 4 degrees negative camber, your tyre will not last more that 10000ks. and it is actually dangerous.

check bushes and bolts for wear, you wont be able to tell if something is bent by looking at it most of the time, unless its really bad. take it to a suspension place (other than pedders) and see what they say if you cant find it yourself

If one side has more camber than the other, and this is not adjustable, then something is bent, worn.

Do you trust the place that did the alignment? Are you sure nothing is broken?

The camber at the rear can be adjusted via the same means as the toe. If the toe has been incorrectly set it can affect camber.

Anyway, this (http://www.whiteline.com.au/instruction/214_KCA357.pdf) kit is probably what you're after to fix the problem, if it's definitely nothing broken/ bent.

I just had the whiteline camber kit installed, had 1.5 degrees negative camber on both fronts.

Had it corrected by pedders to 0. Easy enough to fit and adjust. Getting it right might take some time.

To reduce a 4 degree negative camber to 0 degrees, the upper control arm needs be packed out about 40mm! If the car isn't significantly lowered, that would suggest to me that the knuckle or some other component has been seriously bent.

The most adjustment for any of the camber kits I've seen is +3 degrees (this (http://www.ingallseng.com/35860-adjustable-rear-control-arm-mounting-kit.html)).

car sits about 60mm off the ground....i'd consider that significant lol to get low you gotta go through the hard yards. i'll hit up a suspension mob and see that they say

car sits about 60mm off the ground....i'd consider that significant lol to get low you gotta go through the hard yards. i'll hit up a suspension mob and see that they say

I noticed in the workshop manual the difference in nominal rear camber between the cars with 15" wheels and those with 16"/17" wheels (from factory) was 10' (=0.17 degrees). The ride height difference between these suspension setups is 10mm, thus (as a crude approximation ignoring the way the geometry changes as the ride height changes) your ~100mm of lowering (based on a nominal ground clearance of 160mm) would increase the negative camber from ~0.75 degrees to ~2.5 degrees - say 3 degrees at worst including the 0.5 degree tolerance shown in the workshop manual.

You didn't mention what the camber was on the other side... the workshop manual's numbers suggest the worst possible difference in camber between the 2 sides is 1 degree (+0.5 degree one side, -0.5 degree the other). Anything more than that seriously suggests something wrong.

Right before anyone starts yelling search search search at me. I tried but couldn't find what I was after.

Basically, car used to have 20s and has since had 17s put on,
cheers
Rhys






PUT 20's BACK ON problem solved :beer: